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      Pineal Gland front lobe activation?

      Hi, new to the forum, not sure if this goes here or under another sub-forum site. If anything i will remove it and place it in the correct space. Im a 24 y/o male that was functioning on the "reptilian brain" would say. The only activity i did for years was going to the gym wich i need to take lots amounts of stimulants and ON TOP OF THAT, i was on high doses of "gear" testosterone,etc.. that i think somehow delayed the developement of my brain to reach full maturity. My family always thought i was just depressed, they tried to help a lot but i just wouldnt listen.

      I had this idea that life was just "to big for me" had fear to socialize, to interact with people, etc...in short my daily routine was wake up, go to the gym, go back home, eat, watch youtube or videos, sleep and repeat for almost 5 years. I had my mind so clogged of all the stimulants and excess of estrogen that blinded my mind. I tought i was a failure but not oly untill recently i had an eye opener, some may say "kundalini effect" or something like that, were i could realize that my life wasnt normal at all neither my lifestyle.


      So i decided to quit taking steroids cold turkey and the foginess in my brain went away a little bit but still felt i could improve. I couldnt give up caffeine completely but i reduced the amounts drastically, right now i just ingest a small cup of coffee a day wich may just have less than 100mg of caffeine.

      In my journey to try to regain my brain back, i started smoking weed wich gave me a huge insight of everything that was wrong with my life, but didnt cure my problems, it just made me realize better everything i was doing wrong untill that time. What im going to say right now is very important, since i was little, like in my teens, i felt like something moving inside my brain in the middle of it, i realized later on was the pineal gland maybe? well the this is that i felt that i was running my life from the center of my brain. No complex thought process, lazy all the time, without any iniciative to do anything at all but going to the gym (yes i went all this year to the gym for an underlying trauma i suffered a while back ago, women related).


      In effort to resolve my issues once a for all i steped across lions mane, at first i felt it was activating some king of fluid inside my brain coming from the center of my brain before mentioned.

      The movement also was very active the first few days while on lions mane, i felt my brain was producng a lot of dopamine and other neurotransmiters at the same time. In all this process i remember having a feeling that my consciousnes had to rely in the front lobe, my perception of reality had to come from my brain seein reality from the front lobe on not from the lizard brain or any other place. I traied several times to force my self to "open or activate" or "move the fluid" yes a fluid, to my front lobe. In order to do this i tried smoking weed while taking the lions mane and let me tell you, it did work, i was able to activate my front lobe for a day........yes for a day and man it was one of the most amazing days in my life. I felt like the guy of limitless, i felt i could do anything, i suddenly wanted to study, didnt feel the need to consume caffeine, laser sharp focus, i felt alpha, like a really shoud be, i was procesing information on a crazy fast rate and my talking was even better than many politics around the world, yes, it was this amazing. I felt i could see words in an abstract way, read them in my mind and then talk clearly. I felt a sense of "selfawarness" unparallel to anything iv experienced before. I must say that i was this way when i was a little kid, i was a brilliant kid growing up, but as you know a lot of things happen, some negative ones that can traumatize a littles kid weak mind.


      BUT..............yeah always a but........that day, something in my brain told me not to smoke again but i end up doing it again, i suddenly felt an feeling of shame and inmrality (i was raised in a christian home, weed was always seen as something negative by my parents, not by me though. That feeling of shame and "inmorality" i feel that shifted that fliud or that awakenin to the superior lobe, no more clarity, no more laser focus concentration, no more "limitless" feel like.



      This has me kinda depressed. Because i know that it might be possible to reactivate again the fron lobe like i did, im not sure if when it is closed due to a "moral" issue is possible. Sorry for the long post, theres a lot of details missing, if any of you would like to ask me anithing i would be more than happy to reply.

      Ive tried to force my self again to open the front lobe or moving that fluid back again to the front lobe, but since i feel my brain is functioning from the superior part, i feel it is more difficult this time. I think i need another "kundalini" to open again my fron lobe but i dont have any idea what i could think off to reopen it back. Im not sure this is the forum for this like i said before, i just feel very desperate for any kind of help or hope because i ust feel "blah" right now, like i was before just slightly more "awake" but still fogge and slugish. Any feed back will be greatly appreciated, thanks beforehand.
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      I know exactly what you mean. I head some similar experience with LSD. After that day I felt bad because I thought that I had lost the access to this amazing abilities. But then I found out that I hat little flashbacks after smoking weed. Only my sight changed than. I learned how I could keep this state. After this experience I changed a lot. I quit smoking weed, changed my diet, started meditation and so on. Half a year later I started with lucid dreaming. And slowly started to use more brain capacity. I'm not 100% sure if that comes from LDing but I think so. Using some kind of ADA which helps me to improve my vision.
      This time it feels much more healthy because I don't force my self to this. I slowly crow in this state and with that. I realized that this natural way is much better. I would probably damage my self if using any substances again.

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      Take a look at this thread in the help section, it sounds like what the thread creator was talking about, and phenomenon I've experienced since as far as I can remember. My initial response to him was fairly long winded but gave a detailed description of all the areas I can change the feeling to and what effects it apparently has on my cognition and mood, but it was lost due to some connection issue. IIRC I still gave a little synopsis in that thread of how it works for me though.

      As far as I can tell, assuming you're talking about the same or a very similar phenomenon, the feeling being in the center (for me it's more like center but slightly back and up) is usually a state lacking mindfulness and an inability to properly focus my attention. I've had two concussions and I abused dissociative drugs pretty hard for a very long period of time, so my short term memory is awful even after cessation for well over a year (it certainly improved after the first 3 months but only to where it's at now). Usually my thoughts are wandering and I'll actually have people talk to me and respond to them before realizing none of what they just said was ever recorded. Sometimes I even have a full blown conversation doing that, and it's not uncommon for me to forget something I was literally just thinking about (I'll even make a mental note to remember it and instantly forget right at that moment, and it rarely comes back unless I stumble on what it was all over again and realize it was what I forgot). The feeling being in the "center" there has me feeling like I'm in a permanent fog. Certain drugs and supplements (including OTCs) can cause this to be the default state or even prevent me from leaving it. Dissociatives in particular make it impossible to leave it, but antihistamines and a few other depressants that don't function by targeting GABA receptors also cause difficulty in leaving the state the next morning.

      The other states are feeling it in the front of my head, which has me more mindful, my memory isn't so terrible, and focusing my attention on what I want is much easier. The sides of my head (both at the same time) just above my ears and a bit around the temples make it particularly easy to remember things I hear (most specifically language, not so much everything else), focus on what I'm hearing, and can even make music more emotionally evocative. The only other spot is one I make use of when trying to sleep, which is at the top of my skull, but back a bit (think where most people's skulls flatten and the hair kinda swirls out). It seems to facilitate random, nonsensical thoughts that allow my mind to drift off to sleep (virtually all other positions make it very difficult to get to sleep, can take upwards of 3 or 4 hours).

      Now, the spots more or less seem to correspond with the lobes of the brain, but I have no idea how much of this is affected by expectation and belief. I seem to remember things being this way before having any real understanding of what each lobe does, but I can't say that with a ton of confidence. The front feeling and side feelings both have their perceived effects correspond with what the frontal and temporal lobes do, even down to the bits of overlap they have in function. I'm not sure what the center feeling corresponds to necessarily, but I always pictured it being the older brain structures like the amygdala. They're enough for consciousness but not really so much for thinking, executive function (like planning or controlling emotional reactions), or advanced self-awareness. In a similar vein, I'm most often on autopilot to varying degrees when I feel things in the center, which translates to being somewhat more emotionally volatile, impulsive, and it's easy to let desires control me.

      Now, the guy in the other thread wound up thinking it had something to do with some kind of spiritual awakening, but for one thing I'd hardly say I'm spiritually enlightened (let alone spiritual). For another, there isn't enough evidence for what's going on to make a meaningful judgment. I definitely think to assume that it's something to do with the spirit, chakras, or even the pineal gland as its typically viewed in a spiritual respect is a mistake. It's one thing to assume that it actually has to do with the lobes of the brain physically located around the feelings/that it isn't simply a placebo, but to go further and say it has something to do with spirituality or enlightenment thereof is, to me, irrational. Again, we don't even know what's actually going on in terms of brain activity. It could simply be a manifestation of some internalized desire to affect one's cognitive abilities and mood that allows for a good deal of flexibility given how reliably the feeling of "mental energy" works in creating the desired state (like templates of what you want) that developed as some form of self-fulfilling prophecy as a result of one's expectations and confirmation bias. That in itself is conjecture too, but I feel like it makes far less assumptions.


      Also, as a side note, how soon ago did you quit steroids cold turkey? It's important for you to know that it's capable of causing gynecomastia (development of male breasts), among other issues. I'm sure you're keenly aware of the effects on mood considering you gave that a mention. It's good you want to quit, but you need to take care of yourself man. If you have to, talk to a doctor about getting something to prevent the excess estrogen from activating the receptors that cause something like gynecomastia to happen. Also, smoking weed is probably having a significant effect on this operating from the center of your brain stuff. It might help in the short term, but drugs and supplements in general affect cognition in that way. Caffeine probably plays a part too, it's a pretty common effect both from over-caffeination and from the comedown (which it isn't normally described as but for all intents and purposes is) that happens about 6-8 hours after ingestion and that can last for another two days. Caffeine on its own is quite capable of causing brain fog for me, even now that I take more modest dosages.

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      Hi Snoop, I think that's my help thread you're talking about. Like you I took a lot of dissociate drugs too, had many psychotic episodes and now permanently on SSRI's. My brain chemistry is literally f**ked. I can still function like a 'normal' human being but I have to stay on the medication. The problem with the medication is that it makes me extremely lethargic. I feel lazy all the time and lack motivation to do anything. I came off the medication for 6 months once against doctors advice and those 6 months were the best months of my life! All of a sudden my energy levels rose up, I could concentrate better, was more motivated, I started exercising and dieting and lost all my weight. I felt happy and normal again. But then psychosis hit me suddenly again and I was back to square one. In my case, I know what's holding me back it's the damn medication but I have to take it otherwise after 6 months I will just be back in hospital again.

      If I recall correctly during those 6 months I didn't feel energy inside my head, instead I felt it spread out all over my body and it was energizing me. I believe this is how it's supposed to be, you're not supposed to feel it in a concentrated area. If you do, then something else is probably making that happen and well for me it would be the SSRI's. What I was referring to in my help post wasn't so much about it being a spiritual thing or anything to do with enlightenment, but more so about meditation. During meditation you can sense things more accurately, you can pick up on fine vibrations or energy, sensations or emotions moving inside you. And I believe through meditation you become more sensitive to it and can notice it more. Whenever I take a break from meditation I don't notice this sensation as much - it's still there but less noticeable. What I was mentioning about the chakra's was that if you focus on a chakra during meditation you can feel something there. It's like all your awareness is focused on one point.

      Getting back to the original post, there's been times when I've been able to 'light up' different area's of my brain and achieve different states. Like this one area that is like a rectangular strip in the middle on top of the head running from the top of the forehead to the top back of the head. If I focused on just staying within the confines of this rectangular section I had higher brain function and a euphoric feeling. Last night while I was dreaming I felt this area at the base of my skull where the brain stem connects and it was producing music that sounded like music you would hear on the radio like a popular song. The words all rhymed and I could actually change the song to my liking and input my own words that also rhymed perfectly. The brain has remarkable abilities tucked away inside different area's of it and we can access these from time to time but to do it 24/7 is probably an unrealistic and non-achievable feat to accomplish but I could be wrong.

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      Hey guys, sorry for the late response, been trough a lot lately, at the same time appreciate your responses. After my original post, everythin went down hill, when the fluid went on top of my head, i starded watching crazy theories about a lot of stuff on youtube ( flat earth theorie, moon landing conspiracy theories, fake universe theories, and the one tha fucked me up; the reptilians theories....in that state of mind i was very buzzed ( consuming weed and consuming lions mane thats basicly a mushroom) and i entered in a panic state, in my mind i came to the conclusion that the Bible was created by these reptiles beings that are in charge to "reset" humanity every 2-3 thousands of years, and the bible was just a guide to preserve longer humanity from self destruction. I came to the conclusion that all the humans dilemas ( love, morality, values, etc..) are just creations from this realm to entertain us humans. I also came to the conclusion that we could be reptiles living a human experience (dont ask me how i came to that conclusion, but trust me, i read a lot info that led me to belive that) in my house my parents and family think that i might be something very wron with my head. Well the thing is, that the "fluid" that was on top of my head, due to the fact that i etered in a anic state, i feel that the adrelanine hormones shifted to my head, i lasted a couple of days with my brain hurting a lot, anxious and living in a panic state, i has to go to the doctor witch gave me drugs so i could sleep, but it was a superficial sleep, it messed up my endocrine system as its not producing enough hormones. I felt due to the log state of panic, my body was in a lot of stress producing a lot of adrenaline and cortisol, suddenly one day i felt the my pineal gland shut off, i feel i messed up my hipofisis as im not producing enough hormones. Like i said before, i was going to the gym every day and played sports now and then, the lab tests ive done in the ast always gave me the superior edge ( high test, hgh, healthy levels of everything). Right now all my values are base line, i think i rewired my hipofisis to not signal the other glands in my body neccesary to produce the correct amount of hormones. I know my case is complicated and you guys cant grasp the complexity and severity of my situation, but i would just like to advice to everyone to be carefull consuming mushrooms in combination with others thinsg like weed and LSD, it can mess up bad your head if youre in front of information that can impact you.

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      I wonder if you might benefit from giving your brain some time without any drugs and see how you feel/think? Do you have anyone to talk to who won't put their judgements or opinions on you? It may take a while for your brain and body to recovery from steroids and weed.

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