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      Using astral projection and lucid dreaming for education and past lives

      Hi,
      I want to know if anyone has used astral projection and lucid dreaming for exploring past lives and learning from schools [like universities] in the astral plane to learn things?

      I'm in my late 20's and my math isn't that good. I want to at least review / learn some subjects from basic math / pre-algebra.

      I also want to know if [within the astral plane / akashic records] if it's possible to review a life of a person that was good at math, and then practice from their point of view [like first person]? Or let the person who's live you reviewed (or your spirit guide) teach you the way they could do it? Then when you return to your body, you can practice math and be able to solve problems the way the person's live you experienced did.

      Also I want to mention I book I bought called "mastering astral projection". I want to know if anyone has had success from doing the program in this book?

      Thanks.

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      our creative conciousness is unlimited , thats what my tea says anyway
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      Luffy28,

      I think the best you can to improve your math is practice with the assistance of a tutor. Everyone thinks about math a little bit differently, so although the teacher is the expert, you'd want to find one who understands that everyone is different and tries to explain things in a way that makes sense to you. If you can't afford to pay a college student as an in-person tutor, or don't want to, there are also free videos on the internet.

      I think that practice from the point of view of a person who is good at math would not help. At best you'd get an impression of what its like to be good at math, but then you'd be unable to translate anything specific into a form that you can work with. I do think that there are psychic connections between people which facilitate communication, but I think that you can get that as well with a tutor or a video as any other way.

      I have had adult algebra students who put a lot of work in and then did well after having failed at it previously. So I encourage you to work at it if it is something that you want to do. A few students never do get it even after trying hard, it just isn't their thing. But some do.

      Regarding past lives....We store memories from our current lives in an overlapping way in which experiences resonate with other analogous experiences. When we 'remember' something, we extract a part of that pattern and project it into an image which mostly resembles the past event we associate with it. When dreaming, we can also project those patterns into other experiences which seem like memories but which don't directly resemble our own life events. Suppose you also have a spiritual memory of a past life. How can you distinguish that from this other kind of projection from your current life? And how can you distinguish your 'own' past life from someone else's past life? Or from someone else's fantasy about a past life, psychically picked up by you? Nobody has that degree of control and objectivity. The people who pretend otherwise are all con artists, seeking your attention and usually your money. I believe that we have spiritual memories, but for now we can't reliably separate what's real from what's imagined. I think that's OK, the things that are most important are usually in front of us, or reflected by things in front of us.
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      Thanks,
      If it's not a good idea to learn from that person's point of view (or practice math for me for instance)? Then could that person at least teach me how they study?

      Also if I were to go to a school on the astral plane for math (or engineering) wouldn't the teachers / masters of that school still go through examples / lessons like in the real world?

      I've had vivid dreams where I can see text on a computer and read text from a book.

      I've bought / books / borrowed books from the library and there good but it takes me a while to read them. I'm trying to learn speed reading and it's only worked to a certain degree.

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      I have an MS math degree and do math for a living. If you want to know how I study, you can just ask me.

      There aren't any secrets or tricks that makes much difference. Its mostly a combination of talent and persistent effort, like running fast.
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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowofwind View Post
      I have an MS math degree and do math for a living. If you want to know how I study, you can just ask me.

      There aren't any secrets or tricks that makes much difference. Its mostly a combination of talent and persistent effort, like running fast.
      I can ask through PM and maybe we can trade emails.

      I need advice for college period. I've been / attempting to go to the same college since I was 19 / 20.

      Thanks.

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      I also want to know if anyone knows if it's easier to learn terms for subjects (like math or english grammar) in the lucid world / astral plane / akashic records then it is in the real world?

      Especially from teachers / beings. The reason I want to know if that people have claimed to learn skills from past lives and or the akashic records like Einstien and Tesla.

      I'm studying a basic math book and it's easy to learn the techniques for the terms (like fractions) but it's a little tough for me to learn the terms themselves and the definitions.

      Thanks.

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      Probably no. You see, I'm not from English speaking country but I remember a few LDs and OBEs where I used English for communication... Without pause. BUT WITHOUT FEEDBACK!!! You can't be sure if you are speaking the right way. The same with any other subject. You can't be sure whether you are doing right things.
      When I projected nuclear fusion engine with extremely high thrust/ISP in a dream, everything seemed so easy to be engineered... and it was - in a dream. Of course none of that had any meaning once I woke up.
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      Quote Originally Posted by luffy28 View Post
      The reason I want to know if that people have claimed to learn skills from past lives and or the akashic records like Einstien and Tesla.
      If it brings attention or sells a book, someone somewhere has claimed it. But if you had a living, breathing Einstein sitting in front of you and you mind melded with him, I doubt it would help very much. You'd get an experience of what it feels like to be him, and something of his outlook, but it wouldn't be the next step for you.

      Quote Originally Posted by luffy28 View Post
      I'm studying a basic math book and it's easy to learn the techniques for the terms (like fractions) but it's a little tough for me to learn the terms themselves and the definitions.
      Most people have trouble learning math just from a book. For me the main problem is motivation. Learning math in terms of definitions is also hard. People who have math PhD's have learned to think in terms of definitions, theorems, and proofs, so then they often try to teach that way because it is what they know. But most people don't think that way, and it is not the right approach if you just want to do algebra or pre-algebra. Of course you need to understand some definitions, but it is important that the definitions make intuitive sense to you, or at least enough sense that you can work problems correctly and build your intuition through repetition.

      If you have the time and money, it might be helpful to take a math course. These are offered at times that fit around your work schedule, and are usually taught by adjuncts who have a relatively good idea of how to teach people like you. There are also always department tutoring centers where other adjuncts and students are available to help, and sometimes they're better than whoever your teacher is. Taking a course doesn't guarantee success, but might be the best way.

      Quote Originally Posted by luffy28 View Post
      I need advice for college period. I've been / attempting to go to the same college since I was 19 / 20.
      I think this is a hard problem. I think that college can make sense if it is part of a definite plan to become qualified for some kind of job that fits who you are. For example, I had a friend who got a communications degree as part of transitioning from waitressing to a doctor's office receptionist job. But college can cost a lot of money, can be very difficult if you are working full time or have kids, and doesn't always lead to a better job. It really depends on who you are and what you are naturally interested in and good at. Even in my friend's case, and even though the career change was positive for her, I guess she probably could have increased her income more just from moving to working dinners instead of lunches. Many people always have career trouble because their personalities don't fit the modern job market very well. I'd guess most people who post a lot on this site are like that. There are a lot of different kinds of careers, I guess I can't say anything in general without knowing what kind of degree you'd try to get and why.

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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowofwind View Post
      If it brings attention or sells a book, someone somewhere has claimed it. But if you had a living, breathing Einstein sitting in front of you and you mind melded with him, I doubt it would help very much. You'd get an experience of what it feels like to be him, and something of his outlook, but it wouldn't be the next step for you.



      Most people have trouble learning math just from a book. For me the main problem is motivation. Learning math in terms of definitions is also hard. People who have math PhD's have learned to think in terms of definitions, theorems, and proofs, so then they often try to teach that way because it is what they know. But most people don't think that way, and it is not the right approach if you just want to do algebra or pre-algebra. Of course you need to understand some definitions, but it is important that the definitions make intuitive sense to you, or at least enough sense that you can work problems correctly and build your intuition through repetition.

      If you have the time and money, it might be helpful to take a math course. These are offered at times that fit around your work schedule, and are usually taught by adjuncts who have a relatively good idea of how to teach people like you. There are also always department tutoring centers where other adjuncts and students are available to help, and sometimes they're better than whoever your teacher is. Taking a course doesn't guarantee success, but might be the best way.



      I think this is a hard problem. I think that college can make sense if it is part of a definite plan to become qualified for some kind of job that fits who you are. For example, I had a friend who got a communications degree as part of transitioning from waitressing to a doctor's office receptionist job. But college can cost a lot of money, can be very difficult if you are working full time or have kids, and doesn't always lead to a better job. It really depends on who you are and what you are naturally interested in and good at. Even in my friend's case, and even though the career change was positive for her, I guess she probably could have increased her income more just from moving to working dinners instead of lunches. Many people always have career trouble because their personalities don't fit the modern job market very well. I'd guess most people who post a lot on this site are like that. There are a lot of different kinds of careers, I guess I can't say anything in general without knowing what kind of degree you'd try to get and why.
      Thanks,
      I took a math course (basic math) at my local community college almost two years ago. The professor was good, but she didn't lecture as much. Also she just did problems and expected us to read on our own (just like a review). She told us just to do problems and she would just do / perform examples of problems. She went so fast a lot of the time that I couldn't catch up [taking note of the problems].

      Also I remember I somehow got a successful automatic writing session with a spirit and he / it did a problem in a different way through my hand. I ended up understanding it most of the time, but not all of the time.

      Thanks.

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      I think the most important thing you need is to strengthen your own mind, and channeling a spirit doesn't do that. You have to do it.

      I also think that the spirit you channeled is at least in part your own subconscious. So if you did something that way, it shows you already have some of that capacity. But you need to work to train your conscious mind before you can get it out more reliably.

      I have had students who failed basic math and then passed after taking it once or twice more. I have also had students who tried hard but could not pass after several tries. But in all cases the students who were successful had to work at the problems themselves. I think this is why she expects you to do a lot on your own. She knows that she can't do it for you, that if you are one of the ones who can succeed, you have to find a way to do most of it yourself, with some help.

      I agree with your teacher that showing example problems is the most important part of learning math. That's pretty much the only way I learned math, I didn't even pay attention in class or read the text. I just worked problems, and skimmed the text if I got stuck. Most people benefit from reading the text more carefully, and from paying attention to the teacher, but always the most important part is working problems on your own.

      For several years I had a 'familiar spirit' that would teach me things, mostly having to do with spiritual growth. Then it slowly faded away, and now it teaches mostly through circumstance, not by talking to me. I think this is better. If you channel a spirit, it fills a space that you yourself need to grow into, and you can't do that if you're looking to the spirit. It would be like a parent who does everything for their children so that their children do not learn to do things themselves. There's an emotional dependence that is unhealthy also. We're all limited, but I think the way forward is to center ourselves in who we are and what we are capable of, and taking small steps forward from there.
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      Hi luffy,

      is math really that critical to your study? Is it going to be a major part of your job after the school, or you just need to survive it?

      Also, it is possible to strengthen your knowledge in Lucid/astral. But for that to happen, you first must posses that knowledge. You can't learn anything new.

      For example, surgeon may practice a new surgery technique in his LD, but first he has to know it in waking life. Then he can just go through the motions of doing it.

      Same for a baseball player. If he wants to get better at throwing or slugging, he can practice to gain muscle memory, but first he has to learn the proper technique in waking life.

      In another words, you can not learn how to play a piano in a lucid, but once you know how to play, you can practice it.

      Sorry, but LD/OBE/Astral just doesn't look like a way to go. I wish it was and I wish you good luck.

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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowofwind View Post
      I think the most important thing you need is to strengthen your own mind, and channeling a spirit doesn't do that. You have to do it.

      I also think that the spirit you channeled is at least in part your own subconscious. So if you did something that way, it shows you already have some of that capacity. But you need to work to train your conscious mind before you can get it out more reliably.

      I have had students who failed basic math and then passed after taking it once or twice more. I have also had students who tried hard but could not pass after several tries. But in all cases the students who were successful had to work at the problems themselves. I think this is why she expects you to do a lot on your own. She knows that she can't do it for you, that if you are one of the ones who can succeed, you have to find a way to do most of it yourself, with some help.

      I agree with your teacher that showing example problems is the most important part of learning math. That's pretty much the only way I learned math, I didn't even pay attention in class or read the text. I just worked problems, and skimmed the text if I got stuck. Most people benefit from reading the text more carefully, and from paying attention to the teacher, but always the most important part is working problems on your own.

      For several years I had a 'familiar spirit' that would teach me things, mostly having to do with spiritual growth. Then it slowly faded away, and now it teaches mostly through circumstance, not by talking to me. I think this is better. If you channel a spirit, it fills a space that you yourself need to grow into, and you can't do that if you're looking to the spirit. It would be like a parent who does everything for their children so that their children do not learn to do things themselves. There's an emotional dependence that is unhealthy also. We're all limited, but I think the way forward is to center ourselves in who we are and what we are capable of, and taking small steps forward from there.
      Thanks for the advice. I've noticed so far that I'm good at learning techniques (at least for basic math & basic algebra) like doing but am bad at learning definitions. In high school I was good at English (got almost all A's until 12th grade) and history but average / low at science (bio, earth science, algebra [got a C in algebra I]) and I wanted to learn c++ / do programming in high school, but couldn't because of my grades. When I was in high school the two subjects I wanted to study for college were physics or computer science (wanted to get my PHD in CS for at least 2 to 3 years or physics) then I switched from that to today wanting to either do math or engineering (Electrical engineering and mechanical or electro-mechanical [that's a rare program]). There's also been people throughout history (like Tesla & Ramanujan) who taught themselves their careers.

      Plus at the college I attended all of the problems are word problem based.

      Thanks.

      Also thanks Gab.

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      Luffy,

      Computer science is a very big field, and there are a lot of successful programmers who are poor at math. C++ is a very difficult language to master, and is best suited for math applications. C# or Java are much easier to start with, especially if you're not going to do math intensive computing. Maybe C# is the most practical to learn currently. There are also web technologies like Javascript that are horrible as languages, but may be good to learn, especially if you're going to do web development, which doesn't require much math skill. Instrument control is another programming area that doesn't require much math, though you have to be comfortable with hardware. I guess your math will never be strong enough to do physics. It sounds to me like you might be best off focusing on programming and see if that works for you. Not everyone is cut out for any kind of programming either.

      Yes there are a lot of people who are self taught, but people like Ramanujan have an extraordinary amount of raw mathematical talent. Some people like to quote Einstein as saying he had mathematical difficulties, or share apocryphal anecdotes about having gotten poor math grades. But the reason he had math trouble was because the math he was doing was very, very hard, and if he got bad grades in a class it would have been out of boredom. It would be like saying that Lebron James is a poor three point shooter. That's true relative to his other skills and the people he's playing with, but he's an extraordinarily good three point shooter relative to ordinary people, and considering that he has freakishly athletic giants guarding him.

      In any case, almost all programmers are at least partially self-taught, and a large number are mostly or entirely self-taught, so if programming is your thing you should be able to learn that without school. Just download Visual Studio Community, which is free, and start doing your own projects. Or start doing your own web projects. You can find a ton of free resources online.
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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowofwind View Post
      Luffy,

      Computer science is a very big field, and there are a lot of successful programmers who are poor at math. C++ is a very difficult language to master, and is best suited for math applications. C# or Java are much easier to start with, especially if you're not going to do math intensive computing. Maybe C# is the most practical to learn currently. There are also web technologies like Javascript that are horrible as languages, but may be good to learn, especially if you're going to do web development, which doesn't require much math skill. Instrument control is another programming area that doesn't require much math, though you have to be comfortable with hardware. I guess your math will never be strong enough to do physics. It sounds to me like you might be best off focusing on programming and see if that works for you. Not everyone is cut out for any kind of programming either.

      Yes there are a lot of people who are self taught, but people like Ramanujan have an extraordinary amount of raw mathematical talent. Some people like to quote Einstein as saying he had mathematical difficulties, or share apocryphal anecdotes about having gotten poor math grades. But the reason he had math trouble was because the math he was doing was very, very hard, and if he got bad grades in a class it would have been out of boredom. It would be like saying that Lebron James is a poor three point shooter. That's true relative to his other skills and the people he's playing with, but he's an extraordinarily good three point shooter relative to ordinary people, and considering that he has freakishly athletic giants guarding him.

      In any case, almost all programmers are at least partially self-taught, and a large number are mostly or entirely self-taught, so if programming is your thing you should be able to learn that without school. Just download Visual Studio Community, which is free, and start doing your own projects. Or start doing your own web projects. You can find a ton of free resources online.
      Thanks,
      I'm interested in doing web programming / app programming (for smart phones) I'm also interested in computer security / cryptography / cracking (from a legal perspective), also improving / adding features to programming languages.

      That's what I'm interested in doing for computer science research. But I no longer want to get a degree in CS.

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