Hey, will PM you in a bit. Was able to get into contact with Nomad and Man of Shred a few years back, got some interesting insights. |
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Hey there fellow dreamers! |
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Hey, will PM you in a bit. Was able to get into contact with Nomad and Man of Shred a few years back, got some interesting insights. |
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I don't know, but I'd be interested in trying. This fascinates me. |
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Waking Nomad had an accident and difficult recovery, and didn't post as much after that. Man of Shred went through some changes also, including a phase where he saw lucid dreaming as being evil, and I don't know where he wound up after that. |
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sure! pm me - or we can talk about it here as a kind of - where are we now/what we know now - kind of thing? |
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I'm still experimenting with shared dreaming and shared out of body experiments, but I haven't found any proofs of reality in shared experiences yet. |
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Last edited by Psionik; 06-10-2020 at 03:30 PM.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" is a cliche for a reason. One thing that I've learned is that something can still be wrong, as measured by the consequences that will inevitably follow, even if your conscience doesn't warn you. Also, if someone warns you about something and you arrogantly blow it off without due consideration, then your intentions aren't entirely perfect anyway. |
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Last edited by shadowofwind; 06-10-2020 at 04:16 PM.
My understanding is that the picture and sound aspect of the shared dream is for the most part private, not shared. The shared dream 'location' is not a real place in that sense, it is more of a symbol that helps people establish the underlying connection. The nature of that connection, so far as I'm aware, is empathy. You actually become the other person a little bit, you share their mind a little bit. This requires some courage in openness, though I don't think that such courage is always an unqualified virtue. Sometimes such openness is reckless, the psychological equivalent of walking around naked in a bad part of town at night, or intentionally exposing yourself to germs during a pandemic. |
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You're very right about the dangers. I never took them seriously. But I want to share what happened to me last night. |
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Last edited by MoonageDaydream; 06-10-2020 at 06:18 PM.
Sign me up. I have a whole summer vacation to practice this before work starts again. I am out of practice, I know this. Work took a lot out of me this year. However, I've been working on improving my recall and lucidity (only been off work for a week now). Last night I had a few seconds of lucidity in REM. So that's progress. I'm getting back into it, slowly but surely. |
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Last edited by MoonageDaydream; 06-10-2020 at 06:11 PM.
As a possible point of clarification....When I say that there's some danger in openness, for the most part I don't mean that the person one is being open to is 'bad' or dangerous. It's the thoughts and influences that get passed around through the open connection that are a problem. The group-think can somewhat of take on a mind of its own, with other parts present that you didn't realize you invited. In this regard it is very much like biological diseases. You don't practice modesty and good hygiene because you're cowardly or hate other people, you do it because otherwise stuff gets amplified and spread that can hurt other people. |
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It's nice to see all you veteran members posting again; I hope this conversation continues! |
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If someone warns me of something I try for years without the outcome I'm warned about- isn't it foolish to jump on the others suggestion? It is as if I'm constructor of steam engine and some ludite warns me that steam engine is wrong, because it isn't alive, because it will harm someone... Only because he doesn't understand nature of machine and fears what he don't understand. My experiments suggests that there are no shared dreams. That is not stopping me to try again and again. Simply because I'm curious. |
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2 things - |
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Last edited by MoonageDaydream; 06-10-2020 at 09:35 PM.
Psoinik, In summary, you have 35 years of experience suggesting that shared dreaming is not dangerous if you never succeed in having a clearly shared dream. That's fine for you, but I think it would be irresponsible to suggest to other people that shared-dreaming is harmless based on your experience with not shared-dreaming. |
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How about trying to share a dream with someone you may know personally like a sibling or relative with clear attention instead of some stranger that may not be too comfortable or have you best interest with this experiment? |
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Last edited by Lang; 06-11-2020 at 02:11 AM.
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In the OP's defense, I'm convinced it's hard to find willing and dedicated dreaming partners. If they don't outright think you're practicing something occult (like some family members I know |
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Last edited by MoonageDaydream; 06-11-2020 at 03:11 AM.
It's funny you said that, while I was doing the dishes, that same thing popped into mind but, I guess I was going through more of the possible outcomes in my head of this discussion may go... |
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I was actually attacked by a fellow dreamer friend before, but we both realized it was an accident - he didn't know it was me at the time |
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What is making me is not emotion. When I concentrate into myself, into the core of my being, there is an consciousness there. Emotionless, existing out of the time, observing. Sometimes not agreeing with the situations, sometimes agreeing. The emotions are cover which makes the vision coloured... enclosing the reality into something else, less real. Over that are common thoughts. Those are like cry, those can completely stop the clear sense of my innermost self. |
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You're completely right about the inner observer; the true self - absolutely. However, there's nothing wrong with having an identity; having emotions. Or even embracing that constructed identity. It's a healthy and beautiful thing. |
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I said it probably too strongly. |
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Interesting. I've never traveled to any higher dimensions that I know of, although once I asked in a lucid dream to feel unconditional love. I was taken, up, up, up, I could see my silver cord dangling down to my body in the bed. My chest felt so full, like I would burst. I started getting scared and asked to be put back down. I said "I still have things to do as a human." |
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