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      new speculation about our 'dry spell'

      Given that something like 'shared dreaming' or 'dream telepathy' is real, there must be some kind of basis for interaction besides electromagnetics or gravity. Maybe that involves some kind of exotic dark matter, or maybe its some unknown properties of 'normal' matter.

      Suppose that dark matter is involved. Most of the dark matter in the solar system that's not in the sun would be in Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune. Suppose that unknown properties of 'normal' matter are somehow involved. The highest pressure parts of the solar system that aren't in the sun, or the center of the earth, are also in Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.

      Those four planets have been on the same side of the sun for a few years, so the earth hasn't been between any of them. Anecdotally, looking back at a few of my most remarkable dreams several years ago, the earth was midway between two massive planets each time. Coincidence? Or are we a part of some kind of distributed, subconscious psychic ecosystem that works better when its parts are in physical alignment?

      If this is not a coincidence, then the kinds of experiences that many of us had a lot more of several years ago are going to come back if we wait a few more years, we're approximately at the bottom of the cycle now.

      This is a conjecture that came to me a few hours ago, I'm not saying I believe this.
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      Many people believe other planets hold their own special type of energy, which effects Earth and everyone on it depending which planets are in play at any given time. I'm sure you have heard of a horoscope before?
      Not only that, but also the region of space and other factors come into play, for example as of tomorrow we are ending a 26,000 year cycle where we will be fully out of the age of pisces and into the age of aquarius with a jupiter/saturn conjunction taking place.
      The new energetic effects of jupiter and saturn will last for about 400 years and is nothing like anyone living today has ever experienced before, some say it will be so powerful as to cause a conscious shift or evolution in our way of thinking or perceiving.
      I see the universe like a perfect clock, every single heavenly body is exactly where it is supposed to be and they are all individual parts functioning together in perpetual motion and synchronicity.

      Scientists love to call shit they don't know 'dark matter' or 'dark energy' it's a load of garbage. They say only 4% matter in entire universe, the rest empty space... which they can't understand so label it dark stuff. I can think of many better names for this 96% emptiness - aether, ethereal, astral, spiritual energy, light energy. They still don't have a working theory or explanation of consciousness, and still haven't cured cancer with all the billions of dollars being thrown into research, so why trust them or anything they tell you? school system and media is so riddled with disinfo, it's all there just to brainwash you and make you docile so you are a good little peasant/slave.

      In my opinion, shared dreaming has more to do with your connection to someone else, like the times I had shared dreams with my brothers, friends or partners. Having them in close proximity and asleep at same time helps. There's also the possibility of shared dreaming through time, as we know time is quite elusive in dreams. I've literally had a 2 hour lucid dream in the space of 2 minutes before, so the idea of being able to connect with someone in the past (or future) is not exactly mind-blowing for me.
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      Eonnn,

      Did you previously post under a different name that I would recognize?

      It's true that scientists, who after all are people, are ignorant in a lot of ways, and many individual scientists tend to assume a lot which they don't actually know. In my experience, there's usually even more of that going on with non-scientists though, even though they're ignorant of different things. Ironically, a substantial portion of what is in the New Age section of the bookstore was made up within the past 200 years, using terminology and metaphors borrowed from 19th century science.

      The 'dark' in 'dark matter' simply means that it doesn't interact electromagnetically with normal matter, in other words, you can't take a picture of it. The terms aether and astral can't be substituted, because those have other meanings, distinct from each other also. Does 'astral' matter interact gravitationally with normal matter? If it doesn't, it is distinct from what is generally being referred to as dark matter. I don't know, so when I say dark matter, I simply mean stuff that's there which you can't see.

      Dream telepathy, or whatever we want to call it, is different for different people. For me it is usually easier with strangers, and spatial proximity or sleeping at exactly the same time doesn't matter at all. The only relative I have had such experiences with lives 3000 miles away.
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      Possibly shadow of wind, I think I used a different nickname once on LD4all but not here. I do vaguely remember seeing your nickname come up though.

      I know that doesn't matter with dream telepathy but it does help and make it easier. New age, is just modern western take on ancient eastern concepts dating back thousands of years ago. Some of it uses quantum physics findings to correlate and support it's theories but much is based on the ancient esoteric gnosis, and borrowing slightly from christianity. As there are many paths, with each path just a different way to the same thing.

      Reality is all made of the same stuff, there is no separation. Just because scientists can't see it, or it doesn't interact electromagnetically with matter, doesn't mean it isn't connected. It's actually not 96% this and 4% that, it's 100% all this. Just look back at what great scientists like Einstein or Tesla said "everything is energy" and "think of it in terms of energy, frequency and vibration". The first hermetic principle of "all is mind" and countless other philosophers, even modern day scientists saying we came from a big bang means we were all connected at one stage, and still are to do this day by the air we breathe, the atoms and everything are all still connected.

      Observation through self inquiry without judgment or ego rationalization is key to greater understanding, trying to conceptualize it all is a lengthy unnecessary process when the answers are found much quicker the other way.
      It was a nice observation you made in your original post and I appreciate you sharing it with us, as difficult as it would have been trying to put into words I'd suggest exploring it more.
      Just remember, the devil is in the details and a picture paints a thousand words.

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      Although 'New Age' has roots in jnana and raja yoga and various Vedic teachings, I think its more than merely a reinterpretation. The idea of 'frequency' for example began appearing when radio was cutting edge science, and its not merely that the vocabulary changed. I've never seen the equivalent concept in translations or transcripts of any of the old eastern scriptures or oral traditions. But of course how significant those differences are depends on what a person thinks is important, and you're emphasizing different aspects of it than I am.

      Most teachers aren't scientists, science writers aren't scientists either, and scientists who write for a popular audience are a tiny portion of scientists. What you read about 'what scientists think' is at best a dumbed down caricature of what some scientists think. Many physicists buy deeply into eastern religious teachings, and even most of the atheists have a lot subtler view than the materialist, reductionist caricature. And for the most part they're not invested in keeping other people ignorant and servile. They're mostly concerned with some combination of discovery, helping educate people about what they've discovered, stroking their own egos, and advancing their own livelihoods, just like everyone else in one way or another. Although those motives do encourage a degree of ignorance and servility, that's only one side of it, and the purveyors of eastern mysticism are conspiring to maintain their status and influence in largely the same way. Again, which side is emphasized depends a lot on what a person values.

      In any case, we agree that the materialist, reductionist vision is false and limiting, which I think was your main point.
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      I think science is very limited at the moment. Although for many people it describes reality perfectly. There are many things science simply doesn't know yet. So to speculate on how dreams work from a scientific point of view is not going to give you answers. Throughout the ages we have used the term 'spiritual' to describe the events and realities outside this physical world. Well, perhaps outside is not the best word. It's all part of same reality. We all dream, so we all have the means to experience the spiritual. But for a person with a materialistic worldview, based on science, our dreams will never be more than the result of impulses in our brain that project a thing to keep our mind busy when we sleep.

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