Lycanthropy, anyone?

**Khaz** · 12-14-2005 06:05 AM

Alright, this is possibly the weirdest topic I will ever make, and it comes in two parts. One is related to lucid dreaming, and one is just what the topic name suggests. Man, I hope someone actually bothers to read all this....

Let's start off general, shall we?

Okay, I've been doing a lot of research on this topic lately, mainly becuase I've... "met" someone who claims to be capable of lycanthropy. I say "met" because this is an online encounter, and therefore harder to judge who's being honest. Anyways, the thing here is, he offered to teach me, over the internet, for free, how to do it myself. Being the extremely curious science-type, I agreed. I mostly wanted to see what was involved, and how someone could believe something so impossible. Now, this is in a nutshell what I've learned about it:

Lycanthropy is the ability to transform oneself into a wolf, and in a looser definition the animal of your choice. Apparently, these modern were-wolves experience this in two levels: mentally and physically. The first stage is basically becoming a wolf mentally. This is quite fascinating to me, because I actually believe what he has told me about that aspect. Apparently, through some mental process that I won't go into depth about now (no hallucinogens involved, just so you know), you can assume this frame of mind, basically like having your body and mind controlled by some other entity. This can be dangerous depending on what kind of person you are (ie. violent types would probably kill people), so it's best done somewhere isolated and safe. You still have minimal control over yourself, and are aware of what is happening.

The second part is the physical transformation. This I believe, nay KNOW to be impossible. He admits he cannot do it, but claims to know and have seen people who can. In any case, I don't know what to say about this part, so I'll leave it here.

Now, I have some theories about the mental half. Possibly this is like purposely inducing multiple personalities? Maybe it's just the product of a very vivid imagination, or a mind obsessed by complete belief.... Anyways, I'd like to hear what you all have to say on this subject. If you have specific questions (there's too much to write in one post!), just ask!

Part two:

Now, this person has related a rather interesting experience to me. He was lying in bed one day, and somehow ended up in sleep paralysis. While in this state, he started just thinking about what it would be like to physically become a wolf. Now, as soon as he did, he started to feel it happen! Apparently the whole experience was in incredible detail, right down to claws, fur and a wagging tail. After feeling this for a while, he started to move around in this state, and it sounds like it drifted off into a dream from there. After he told me, I explained everything that had happened to him, quite amazed...

First off, has anyone ever experienced anything like this? Like, I know I can kind of feel things when I try to WILD, but never anything nearly this vivid.

Now, one little thing to add to that: Part of the "training" for actually learning this lycanthropy is a lot of visualization stuff. For example:

For one method, you should sit in a very dark room, so that you can only really see the outline of your hand in front of you. Look at it, and try to force yourself to see it as a paw, or whatever you like. Once you achieve that, move on to your other arm and so on, until you can see your whole body like that. If successful, up the light level a bit and repeat until you essentially get to daylight.

Now, what I'm thinking about part two here is that this kind of thing allowed him to imagine this much more vividly, since he had trained himself to do so. The ability to do something like that in real life made it an extremely vivid experience in the half-awake state he was in....

Okay. I think that's all I've got for now. Please, post your thoughts, ideas, questions, suggestions, and "You're an idiot for considering this" comments!

PS: Yes, this is what my "Being Open Minded" thread was about. I even managed to use it there as an example with nobody catching on! I\'m so sneaky....

**Placebo** · 12-14-2005 07:42 AM

And I thought I dabbled in wierd terrain

Personally I think it's an active and vivid imagination. I have had dreams where I had vivid and heightened senses, so that doesn't mean much beyond 'cool' to me.
It's also understandable that he'd assume a wolf form so easily in a dream simply because it is somewhat of a hobby of his to imagine what it would be like. So of course he'd be inclined for it to happen in dreams.

My 2 cents

**Khaz** · 12-14-2005 07:59 AM

Originally posted by Placebo
And I thought I dabbled in wierd terrain

Yeah, I know. It's about as weird as it gets...

Thanks for your input. Anyone else brave enough to stick their nose in here?

**♥Mark** · 12-14-2005 09:28 AM

Sounds like a classic case of suggestion. It's very possible to trick one's mind into believing, and even seeing/feeling things.

**Night Wolf** · 12-14-2005 12:10 PM

Sounds like this guy has been playing a little too much Diablo II.

**Khaz** · 12-14-2005 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Night Wolf
Sounds like this guy has been playing a little too much Diablo II. * *

Ahh, you see, he's not alone in this... I know there are several others out there that are "into" the exact same thing. This guy's just the only one I've personally encountered.

**justme** · 12-15-2005 02:03 AM

I think it's immpossible, least the pyschical part The mental part might just be inhanceing ur senses, anyways I think if u see it and belive it u should do it, and the guy claiming he have seen it he should be able to do it, nut thats justme

**Asclepius** · 12-16-2005 01:59 AM

Unfortunately some people invite foreign elements into their consciousness with very negative effects.

Possession does not have to look like The Exorcist, and is much less entertaining.

I think if you want to feel wolflike, use lucid dreaming.

**Khaz** · 12-16-2005 02:10 AM

Originally posted by Asclepius
Unfortunately some people invite foreign elements into their consciousness with very negative effects.

Possession does not have to look like The Exorcist, and is much less entertaining.

I think if you want to feel wolflike, use lucid dreaming.

What do you mean by that? What "foreign elements", and what kind of effects?

**♥Mark** · 12-16-2005 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Khaz
Ahh, you see, he's not alone in this... I know there are several others out there that are \"into\" the exact same thing. This guy's just the only one I've personally encountered.

Really? You've never met anyone else who plays Diablo 2? It's a pretty popular game, so--- Oh, wait.

Originally posted by Khaz

What do you mean by that? What \"foreign elements\", and what kind of effects?

I'm guessing drugs.

**Khaz** · 12-16-2005 06:59 PM

Augh! Okay, let me clear stuff up:

I was not referring to Diablo II. What I'm saying is that there are others who claim to practice Lycanthropy, and it has no relationship to Diablo II.

I have already stated that the process does not involve any kind of drugs whatsoever, to the best of my knowledge. I'm thinking by "foreign elements", something akin to malevolent spirits was implied.

**oarsetter** · 12-29-2005 11:27 PM

well personally i believe its possible to a certain extent. The human mind is a very powerful tool and if you can convince yourself that something is true then it is as good as true. Goes with the theory of if you die in your dreams then your body dies with you, as your mind thinks you have actually died. So perhaps the mental part of lycanthropy is indeed possible and who knows..but perhaps powerufl thought and belief together can induce a physical change. Probably mostly along the lines of extensive hairgrowth.

**Been There** · 12-30-2005 12:42 AM

I read an account of an old american indian guy that was "shape shifter" and turned into a coyote in front of seven people that all claim to have seen the same thing.

This is one of those things I can't believe until I see it myself. Even then, I don't know if I would believe this.

**Leelu** · 01-07-2006 06:25 PM

I met people on the internet who, one way or another, feel spiritual or mentl connections to a certain animal. I think they call themselves therianthropes, and these people may experience different ways of connections. Some feel they were this animal in a past life.

But a lot of these people do go through mental shifts, where they take on that animal's frame of mind. And sometimes, even in the waking, will feel phantom parts. Like an amputee will feel a missing limb, these people may feel tails, fur, wings, whatever.

The closest experience I've had to therianthropy is walking around on four legs in my dreams.

**Baal** · 01-10-2006 01:13 AM

LSD is not good for you

**PariahPoet** · 01-23-2006 07:54 AM

I am a therian. I have frequent dream shifts, plus numerous phantom shifts. That is the main thing I do when I am lucid...it is wonderful to take the form I feel like I should always have.

**ravenqueen** · 01-23-2006 08:20 AM

i have meet many man and women so will do anything to get attention from a young and loving person. People will tell tall tales to make you love them. I believe the unknown is possible but I think someone is trying to get closer to you then just being a werewolf. When I was 16 a guy tryed to convince me I needed to be a vampire. Silk he called himself. Be careful some people will say anything.

**PariahPoet** · 01-23-2006 03:39 PM

I'm not trying to convince anyone else to become therian. That is not possible. I can't bite you and make you therian, it's something you are born with. And I am not a werewolf. I am feline.

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