Thread: whats astral projection?

Astral projection is what we do when we dream. If we become aware while dreaming, we can astral project ourselves out-of-body, in a spirit-style form. A lot of psychics use the word astral and spirit interchangebly.


Learn more here:
http://www.jonasridgeway.com/
http://www.astralweb.org/
http://www.spiritual.com.au/astral.html
http://home.iprimus.com.au/terencem/thisis...uestionpage.htm

so I can do it while lucid dreaming?

some people believe astral projection and lucid dreaming are the same thing.

essentially, astral projectors believe there is another 'plane' of existence-the astral plane. it is similar to the earthly plane (waking life) in many ways, but many more 'spiritual' entities and concepts are present.

they believe we each have an astral body which we are born with. it is attached to our body by a silver cord (at the stomach). when we dream each night, they believe our astral body separates from our physical body, and journeys around the astral realm. when we die, the cord is severed forever, and our astral body cannot return to our physical body.
most who believe in astral projection wish to be able to separate at will, not just when they are dreaming.

most 'astral projections' can be easily explained as nothing more than lucid dreams.

ah...i guess i'm not gonna get involved with it then...i'll just stay with LD.

Originally posted by Suspiro
ah...i guess i'm not gonna get involved with it then...i'll just stay with LD.

good idea. i first heard of astral projection years before LD'ing, and made virtually no progress. Concentrating on LDing should reap much greater rewards.

WOW! this is like, such a general topic. okay, asral projection is simply when someone moves their spirit body out of their physical body. simply meditate and visualize in your head you flying out of your body. it takes practice, but it's SO COOL. the difference between astral projection and lucid dreaming is that lucid dreaming occurs in a dream, and AP ocurs outside of a dream. but yes, they are very close and could be assumed as the same thing.

cd

I don't mean to sound like a pretentious prick... but you guys have it all wrong. There are 6 senses, not 5, sight, smell, taste, hearing, touch, and PROPRIOCEPTION.

Proprioception is your ability to know where parts of your body is without looking at it or touching or, basically sensing it with any of the other 5 senses. Try it right now. Hold your arm out, you know it's out in front of you, not because you're sensing it with your other 5 senses, but because of proprioception, you just KNOW it is there. It is "sensed" by your mind. I've heard of 3 documented cases of people who permanently screwed up their proprioceptive senses somehow.

The effect?

You'll dig this... for the rest of their life, they believed they were outside their body in a spirit like form. Even if their eyes moved over their arms, and they saw it attached to their body and everything, their proprioceptive senses said NO. They lived their life as an apparition outside their body, but of course they really weren't, they just felt like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprioception

When I go to the movies I do a little exercise. Some might find this stupid, but I've always done this just to test my senses. First I close my eyes and while my eyes are close I listen to everything in the theater. I've learned to single out noises this way. After that I allow myself to try to see from different places within the theater. I haven't had much success with that part because each time I think that I'm seeing with my eyes closed something happens that make me aware it is cracks in my eyes. I like to pratice though in heavy noised areas because it gives me further control over my senses.

Originally posted by cd27
WOW! this is like, such a general topic. okay, asral projection is simply when someone moves their spirit body out of their physical body. simply meditate and visualize in your head you flying out of your body. it takes practice, but it's SO COOL. the difference between astral projection and lucid dreaming is that lucid dreaming occurs in a dream, and AP ocurs outside of a dream. but yes, they are very close and could be assumed as the same thing.

Ditto.

Proprioception can be a bad thing. Some people, after they lose a limb, they still feel phantom pain, like they still feel they have it! If you want to learn more about the subject, check out a book called "The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat" by Oliver Sacks. That book is filled with interesting (true) stories about the mind. But if you want to feel proprioception for yourself, just get yourself into a state of sleep paralysis. For me, my arms are the most numb, so just try to lift that body part with your eyes closed (for me, my arm). If you don't have anything above your arm and you have no feeling in it still, you will think your arm is now raised above the bed, but if you open your eyes you will see it hasn't moved at all (it's a really strange feeling when your body realigns itself). Although I do believe in proprioception, I do not believe that this supports astral projection.

If there is an astral projecter out there, then please try this talent during the daytime, and go to populated areas, listen to people talking, or leave the television on in another room and then tape the program at the same time, go to that room in astral form, and watch it, because I am really interested if you can actually say that you have proof. Please do NOT give links of other people who have done this, because I am only interested in people on this forum. Once again, I am not saying I don't believe in astral projection. My personal opinion is of no consequence; personally I would love it if I could astral project, even if it is all just a lucid dream, because after all, it's like another level of lucid dreaming, true or no. And any kind of lucid dreaming is awesome in its own right. (excuse the run-on sentences)

Originally posted by eds_poofed_hair

If there is an astral projecter out there, then please try this talent during the daytime, and go to populated areas, listen to people talking, or leave the television on in another room and then tape the program at the same time, go to that room in astral form, and watch it, because I am really interested if you can actually say that you have proof. Please do NOT give links of other people who have done this, because I am only interested in people on this forum. Once again, I am not saying I don't believe in astral projection. My personal opinion is of no consequence; personally I would love it if I could astral project, even if it is all just a lucid dream, because after all, it's like another level of lucid dreaming, true or no. And any kind of lucid dreaming is awesome in its own right. (excuse the run-on sentences)

The difference between Astral projection and Lucid dreaming is: Astral projection takes place outside the lucid dream (like walking around the house with your astral body), whereas lucid dreaming happens in the dream. Astral travel is just as clear and lucid as your waking state.

Astral projection is something like meditating. It can happen by accident, or by practice. When astral projecting, you're in the astral dimension, everything that exist on the physical plane exist on the astral plane, but when you're in the astral dimension you see people's and animals astral-counterparts walking around who are awake. I don't know if you can listen to people talk that are on the physical, because you have different vibrations and so may only be able to hear the astral vibration of what's on the astral plane.

As you may have understand this is a bit complicated. I know astral travel is real as I've done it at least five times by accident, if you really want to learn how to astral project you first have to learn relaxation, the relaxing (meditation, ect) will literally sometimes make your astral body float upward from your physical body, allowing for an accidential projection.

But have you ever been able to obtain new information about things, such as objects and places, that you would know nothing of normally?

Originally posted by eds_poofed_hair
But have you ever been able to obtain new information about things, such as objects and places, that you would know nothing of normally?

When astral traveling you can do anything you want, such as visit other spirits, spirit/astral dimensions, or walk around the earth, go out into outer space, ect.

Before WW2, a psychic man named Edgar Cayce would go into a trance that induced a near-death-experience, and brought back a mountain of information about health, humanity, dreams, the afterlife, and the future, ect. He is called the 'most documented psychic of all time.'

Anyone can astral project. They just need to learn how, and master relaxation.

Originally posted by RyanParis
Anyone can astral project. They just need to learn how, and master relaxation.

How does one KNOW that anyone can astral project with any kind of certainty?

Originally posted by Placebo

How does one KNOW that anyone can astral project with any kind of certainty?

If I can do it, anyone can.

You probably do it every night, just unconsciously.

Originally posted by RyanParis


If I can do it, anyone can.

You know it's wrong.

If I can sleep only 2 hours a night, create mobile network testing software, pick locks and do telekinesis, anybody can!
That logic is annoying. Some perfectly normal people have differences in physiology or talents that does not lend itself to 'anybody can do it'

'If a cheetah can run at incredible speed, ANY cat can do it...' pfft.

Where have you been, Placebo? Don't you know that Mr. Paris is omniscient?

Originally posted by TygrHawk
Where have you been, Placebo? Don't you know that Mr. Paris is omniscient?

Agreed.

astral projection is your ancestor portecting you.
you cant control it but you can make the protecton stronger.
to make it stronger you must do something to honor your ancetors and they will protect you

BUT if you dishornor them they will help who ever attacks you

sorry i thought u men atral protection
astral projection is your spirit leaving your body ive done it once and i scared the crap out of my friend i not sure how to do it tho

Originally posted by ShadowShifter+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ShadowShifter)</div>

astral projection is your ancestor portecting you.
you cant control it but you can make the protecton stronger.
to make it stronger you must do something to honor your ancetors and they will protect you

BUT if you dishornor them they will help who ever attacks you[/b]

<!--QuoteBegin-ShadowShifter
sorry i thought u men atral protection
astral projection is your spirit leaving your body ive done it once and i scared the crap out of my friend i not sure how to do it tho

Wow - I thought that seemed kinda strange... LOL

Originally posted by ShadowShifter
astral projection is your ancestor portecting you.
you cant control it but you can make the protecton stronger.
to make it stronger you must do something to honor your ancetors and they will protect you

Originally posted by RyanParis

Aww!! That is so cute..I think I'll take that for my Avatar...
Can we really eat the pancake???
And I'd rather not discuss the main topic....