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Lets say that collective consciousness exists (which I believe it does) and you enter a lucid dream. You find a computer and log onto the collective consciousness and download stuff to your brain. Like whole geography or history or math in your brain. You wake up go to school and know everything you need to know.
Has anyone tried it?
i think the same thing (collective subconscious rather) but same concept anyway
i think it is plausable, only problem is consciously remembering that sort of thing, the unconscious mind stores vast amounts of information, but it seems difficult to access at any time
but the potential for accessing a universal consciousness through the dream world is absolutely amazing, although using the brain to its full potential could lead to even more interesting results
If the "collective subconcious" exists in the way it is usually described, I don't think that intellectual knowledge fits into the system at all. This system of connectedness would have formed very early in human development, and would probably consist of just a sort of "emotional" or "feeling" based network of information. Generally when people describe having been involved in "dream-sharing" it's never anything specific, it's always more a feeling of presence or a feeling of a similar experience...Maybe something like empathy.
Some people refer to it as the superconcious mind, and yes i have some experiance with it...its a nice way to get new ideas and sometimes make things in life go your way.
Out of the normal though cause you dont really have to know anything about the subject which you can get ideas on.
thats a good way to put it, but i think that has to do more with the unconscious mindQuote:
Originally posted by mongreloctopus
If the "collective subconcious" exists in the way it is usually described, I don't think that intellectual knowledge fits into the system at all. This system of connectedness would have formed very early in human development, and would probably consist of just a sort of "emotional" or "feeling" based network of information. Generally when people describe having been involved in "dream-sharing" it's never anything specific, it's always more a feeling of presence or a feeling of a similar experience...Maybe something like empathy.
[difference between subconscious and unconscious
first if you dont believe in the existence and a practicle use for the non physical universe stop reading here
anyway, the collective subconscious is different than the collective unconscious mind, basically the collective unconscious is the feelings you speak of, the flow of information per-say, while the subconscious is more attuned to the inner workings of the body, such as the heart beat, the development of new tissue that sort of thing, all the things that happen automatically without ever thinking about it
there are some who can access their subconscious, i can to a small extent, in deep meditation i can find that part of my brain that controls the beat of my heart, and i know someone else who can do this as well, he actually can do it at any moment but the obvious health hazards of tampering with stopping and starting the heart are rather obvious
now there are 2 major types of communication that differentiate the subconscious and unconscious minds
[pls dont flame me these are all my opnionons and points of view, and considering some of the stuff ive seen im pretty sure its really accurate, and yes i have seen and expereinced most of this i know what im talking about, kthx]
the subconscious communicates via the physical senses
1. body language
2. verbal communication
now the communication having to do with these things can be rather disorienting at times, or even completely opposite what is truly trying to be displayed, but most people dont understand this
which leads to the society we have (which is not nessecarily a bad thing) and may even be the way in which to advance the physical society better
either way, the unconscious is a bit different, it communicates through pure thought
the "speaking in tounges" that is heard of from religious organizations, this rarely truley happens but ever so often it does occur where the pure thought is brought down to a level where it can be expressed by the physical senses which is truley rare
anyway, another time another place
heres a chart to help make more sense, dont know how clearly i displayed the concept up there
unconscious=nonphysical you, the part of you that never changes, but merely experiences reality through the physical vessel, responsible for pure thought that controls everything, part of the universal consciousness that analyzes everything
subconscious=responsible for bodily function and the translation of the senses into information that can be understood by the conscious mind
conscious mind=the part of you that thinks that talks to the person beside you, the part of you that analyzes things (left and right lobes of the brain) analytical and creative aspects of your body
the unconscious monitors both subconscious and conscious minds
(now heres the part that is sketchy and major theory on my part not seen through observation but merely a thought)
the subconscious is basically given the information that is the answer to the conscious mind's question
and the conscious mind is given the information that is the answer to the subconscious mind's question
(reason i say this is basically, the way the brain works, while in the awake state you experience an objective reality where you control very little (comparitavely), where as while in the dream state you experience a [majorly] subjective reality where you control everything
and the consciousness is the go-between that tries to understand them both
so what is the purpose of experiencing either, well i say its to analyze the complex side of either equation
imagine it like this (as einstein said, imagination is more important than intellect)
your subconscious has the one simple answer to this objective reality, we have to find it
while your conscious mind has the one simple answer to your own subjective reality (dreams)
again this is very vauge even in my mind but perhaps it got through to someone)
the knowledge of the physical exists in the collective subconscious to a point, basically the 'binary code' of the universe that explains what events are transpiring at the moment (the average of the perceptions of the other people experiencing the same thing)
the feelings and emotional information is displayed through your own actions (habits) and displayed to others via subconscious written (acted out) information
while to the conscious mind your habits act as a reciever for the unconscious information (pure thought) which compares what each individual felt and saw and experienced to what actually happened and thus
you see happening
one thing that must be pointed out is that there are a few 'skeleton key' answers (thats what i like to call them
one would be the spiritual beliefs (which allow faith to take over all intuition or part of your ego) which also allows for the abilities of astral projection (onto the astral plane i can mentally project simply by acknowledging that my consciuosness is of a nonphysical nature
and that reality, everything we ever experience is simply a dream meaning, it is neither fake nor real, but it simply is because it is, i know that sounds even more vauge but if i ever tell anyone i know for a 100percent fact is true it is that
im sure there are several others, but at the moment im not sure of them ]
ok, i know that was vauge as shit im really sorry this concept has been mulling inside my head for quite some time and it just comes out when i start writign like this, i literally have never thought these things in anything except picture concepts before the last 5 minutes.
if anyone got this far, i hope they will think about what im proposing and perhaps comment on their perception of the same experiences?
perhaps, point being im sorry that was so long winded, anyone think this has any grounds for anything (i think it explains a rather large chunk of how the mind relates with the consciousness)
again, sry long post :D
some things i may have to change, i got some stuff to do right now but ill look over this in a few hours or so, ne way peace
"Row row row your boat, gently down the stream, merily merily merily merily, life is but a dream"
There's another term for it... the K-somethingorother library.. I forget.
I'm beginning to consider the possibility :)
You mean the Akashic Records?
Never really tried it, not as easy as it seems. Try doing it when you are having an OBE. It can exist as like in a computer, a library, a book, etc. I heard somewhere that a way of to gain access into the akashic records: during an OBE, imagine a place with a lot of books (probably a library) which holds eternal knowledge. Google more on it. >.,<"Quote:
The Akasha is said to be the library of all events and responses concerning Human Consciousness in all realities. Every human therefore supposedly contributes and has access to the Akashic Records. It is claimed that to gain access into the Akashic Records, every individual human can become the physical medium, and various techniques (e.g., yogic breathing, visualizations) can be employed to quiet the mind, become a "witness", and achieve the focused, preconscious state necessary to access the Records.[/b]
Yep, that's it ;)