New State of the Senses?

Warning: Long Post Might Hurt your eyes

Physical Perception, might seem a weird choice of words.. but let's just call it that instead of ''senses''.

Something really weird happened last night and a few nights before. It seems that i've had the most extreme lucids in my whole life those 2 days.

however, instead of blabbering on what happened there, I wanted to ask / talk about your state in which you FEEL stuff in a dream. Do you feel stuff as how you want them to feel? Do you feel anything in your dream at all? etc. etc.

Because in 2 of my last dreams I encountered this to the extreme:
I asked her if she wanted to have sex =_= in a kinda, err... straight-forward way (Hey, do you want to have sex?)
She said sure, we moved to an other location, and there we kissed at first, which was the same moment I actually could TASTE her lipstick. I couldn't really tell what kind of taste it was, but it kinda tasted like sweet fresh mango or peach or something. lol.
After that some other stuff went on but thats not to be discussed here =_=.

The other dream, which I just had a few days ago, holds some REALLY weird symbolic meaning to me, but alas that's not for this topic either.
Main point being, in reality, a few days ago, it was hot as hell, I couldn't sleep because of the heat, and I kept trying to sleep, it happened last week-end, and I didn't sleep on saturday all day because of the heat, and sunday I didn't sleep either. until monday at 03:00 AM (03:00)

In that dream I visited my uncle and asked him if he could sleep from the heat. etc. etc.
Because the heat was so torturing that even in my dreams, I could feel it.. lol

So eventually I find this room with a bed, an open doorway to black-nothingness / streets.
And a corner, where the hallway continues to move.
After some talking to myself, and ''telepathically'' talking with someone else I do not know xD. It started.

In that part of the dream, this boy I was communicating with telepathically was talking about how his girlfriend also had the same problems as me, not being able to sleep (I already was sleeping then, but not lucid yet). And then near the end he told me that she was having hallucinations of the Holocaust ( I was thinking myself: maybe I'll get hallucinations because I didn't sleep the night before thanks to the heat =_=).
So suddenly, resident evil like zombies start coming closer to me, and I just think.. ok il'l let them get close this time, and try to make them fade away with my imagination.

SUDDENLY, all the zombies disappear, this new pathway appears in nothingness, on it appears a weird seal of some kind, but before it appeared, a gust of wind blew me against the wall the seal would appear on.

The WEIRD part is:
1.: I could litteraly feel being pushed away by the wind.
2.: I could feel being smacked against the wall by the wind (and it hurt a bit lol).
3.: The wind was a cool breeze, so it also made the heat go away.

Now the WEIRDEST part is that when the wind made the heat go away, when I WOKE, the heat was still gone.

It was almost as if I hypnotized myself in my dream, not to feel the heat. or something like that lol.

Now if you want to know what the hell that seal was, i'd have to discuss that elsewhere too, because it has something to do with my sig =_=.

Anyway, has anyone else ever had a dream where he could REALLY taste and feel ''stuff'' as if it were TRULY REAL?

I want you to be 100% sure because:
99% of the people find themselves going ''he smashed my face and it hurt like hell'', but it was just their reaction. They ''expect'' it to hurt so they think they got hurt when they woke up. However, they actually didn't even feel ANYTHING near pain.

also, 99% of the people that DO feel, feel stuff to a lesser extent.
eg.: A punch feeling like someone smashed you with a pillow. Now that's fake as well. :P

Also that heat + no sleep made me have the most intense lucid dream I ever had.
So now i'll just call this:

NSHSDILD No Sleep & Heat Stimulating Dream Induced Lucid Dream

Not sure if it was that or just a weird coincidence, but it was the most ultimate lucid dream i've ever had (Though I barely put any details here :P)

have you ever suffered hot so much to feel cold?
it happens often here because the moisture level is quite high.

anyway, yes things can really feel real. usually they don't (luckyly, because it wouldn't be nice for all the action junkies if dream pain really hurt too often) but they can. Chocolate tastes chocolate, and even the subtle taste of a particular brand of mineral water can be perfectly reproduced - i once had a dream about my favourite waters and they tasted perfeclty real.

Wind is one of the easiest effects (in my experience) to be recreated in a dream.
I don't really see anything strange in your dream.

What I find strange is, as I stated later in my dream.
Is that 99% of all dreamers ASSUME they ''felt'' something as if it was real, drank water and it tasted like water, because they EXPECT it to.
However, in reality, they never ''actually'' felt it, they just think they did.

A dream example:
Someone walks along a road and gets blasted away because there's a tornado near him.
When he wakes up, he will THINK "omg I dreamed about a tornado and it made me get blown away and it felt as if it was pushing me away''. They just think that because they ASSOCIATE it with stuff.
Eg.: A chocolate bar in a dream is still a chocolate bar, when you wake up, you will most likely think. I ate a chocolate bar, so it probably tasted like one either, instead of.. omg I ate a dream chocolate bar and it tasted like rotten fungus.

Or in other words: Power of suggestion.

And about the heat: it was ANNOYINGLY hot, but it wasn't SWEATING hot, I wasn't sweating, nor beginning to, I was dry , my bed was dry, when I woke up.
There was NO indication of ANYTHING whatsoever to remove ''the heat'' from my body.
No temperature differences (because the temperature was the same when I checked).

NOTHING, the heat that was annoying on my body just ''vanished''.

Also, you're just talking about ''chocolate tastes like chocolate''. ''water tastes like water''.
I ask you know, what makes me think that lips taste like fresh peach or mango.
I mean seriously, I've never even SEEN any lipstick with ''mango / peach'' taste.
And I sure as hell am sure that I wasn't trying to visualize a girl with fresh mango / peach taste lipstick on her lips... rofl.
So basically, the ''heat vanish'' came out of NOWHERE, and so did the fresh mango / peach taste.
Now explain that to me.

ANd like that, also almost everyone doesn't find something feeling EXACTLY the same, or tasting EXACTLY the same. Like you said that not everybody would feel pain (or feel it as if they get hit with a pillow) the same counts for everything that's consumed.

Now there's just 1 more thing, however I won't post it until i'm 100% certain of the situation.

Nah man...I think when people feel wind in a dream, they really do feel the wind in the dream, myself included.

You know, I've never actually ate anything in my dream, but I know for a fact my sense of smell could be reproduced. I also never felt pain before in my dream. If we could feel pain, then I wouldn't want to dream!

But about the wind thing...my first lucid dream (and only [so far!]) I felt wind blowing all over me when I started flying. It's a feeling/experience I'll never forget.

It is very funny to me that you, a very experienced lucid dreamer, would be surprised by what you experienced. You awoke to find the heat had vanished - your dream merely affected your perception of the temperature. Either that, or something in the environment affected your body, causing you to feel cool, which was in turn incorporated into the dream. As for the mango/peach lipstick - the unconscious mind is surprisingly creative. So far my lucid dreams have been lacking in their clarity and replication of the world as experienced in the waking state. However, from some of the other posts I've read, it would seem that for some members here, dreams are pretty decent replicas of the "real" world, some so real as to be virtually indistinguishable.

Hope my rant had at least something of value in it,
-Jonathan,

Lol, I'm a very experienced lucid dreamer and I'm often stunned by the "special effects". Most of them are visual tho. I dont pay much attention to other senses, but I had experiences with them. Cold, taste, texture, rarely smell.

Wind is a very fun sensation, cause it's so damn realistic.

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Originally posted by JDream
It is very funny to me that you, a very experienced lucid dreamer, would be surprised by what you experienced. You awoke to find the heat had vanished - your dream merely affected your perception of the temperature. Either that, or something in the environment affected your body, causing you to feel cool, which was in turn incorporated into the dream. As for the mango/peach lipstick - the unconscious mind is surprisingly creative. So far my lucid dreams have been lacking in their clarity and replication of the world as experienced in the waking state. However, from some of the other posts I've read, it would seem that for some members here, dreams are pretty decent replicas of the "real" world, some so real as to be virtually indistinguishable.

Hope my rant had at least something of value in it,
-Jonathan,

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The main surprise came from the CONTENTS of the dream.
And after that, the fact that the period in which I didn't feel heat (and trust me, there was a heat wave here) at ALL.

Now don't you find it quite odd if dreams make you perceive ''coolness'' in REALITY, for an EXTENDED period of time?

Also, out of some research i've done, almost NOONE I know has actually felt PAIN in their dreams.

TRUE pain the way it's MEANT to be felt, the closest answer I got now was a ''feeling'' of being afraid and pain, but not the actual pain itself. "I felt like I was going to die, but the true pain was absent"

The best way to explain this is to look at a small child.
When he hurts himself, sometimes he doesn't even cry, until he sees the wound, then he cries and says it hurts.

Basically what i'm talking about is that on close inspection, ''reality in dreams'' lacks the small details, which it didn't lack here.

Of course it's hard to comprehend here.
But if I could, I would ram a big spear through your chest, and you will most probably say, that it felt different than when it happened in a dream.

However, here, it didn't feel different, though you can just be stubborn and say ''everyone has that'', you have to look at the small details, which is hard to explain.

As I cannot make you feel what I felt, it is impossible for you to 100% comprehend this.
You can only draw assumptions, and that is way from reality to base an idea on what I have felt.

Meh, I can feel it was foolish to post this here, as noone on this forum can comprehend it, unless they are ''me''.


Also note that my ranking indicates God level on consciousness.
This does not mean anything else than that I have total consciousness (and control?) in my dreams.

I do feel things in dreams, without a doubt. I seem to feel the change in tempurature above all, most things are pretty cool/cold in my dreams. I believe I've only had one dream with heat.. In any case, there have been others where I could feel and smell the mist in the night air, but when it comes to physical pain, its more of a pressure. I've never felt true pain dreamwise.

And with eating or tasting something... I dont quite recall ever eating. Everyone's dreams take on different theme, I suppose mine dont care much for food.