Thread: Strange Expireance At Rehab

Isn't there some way that you can be committed somewhere safely for life, before you hurt somebody?

Wow. That's a really weird story. If you don't mind me asking, why did you have to go into rehab in the first place?

Jeff sounds really cool!

But I'm finding it hard to believe this.

I believe... you're full of it.
First of all, You are still doing drugs, correct? If you seriously believe this kind of thing happend then get help (or better help).
I don't know what branch of satanism you're talking about (i've read some other posts by you how you think satanism is the religion for you etc.) but whatever it involves it's the same type of brainwashing that the other Believe-in-the-higher-forces religions is trying to spread, Just under a cool label that suits people that believe that Christianity (and friends) are bullshitters and the believers in telekinesi stuff.
Get real and quit sniffing stuff dude.

Hey guys, after what I have been experiancing lately, nothing surprises me anymore.

These people you met in rehab, they closely matched your belief system?

hehehe sounds like good fun.

I believe... you're full of it.
First of all, You are still doing drugs, correct? If you seriously believe this kind of thing happend then get help (or better help).
I don't know what branch of satanism you're talking about (i've read some other posts by you how you think satanism is the religion for you etc.) but whatever it involves it's the same type of brainwashing that the other Believe-in-the-higher-forces religions is trying to spread, Just under a cool label that suits people that believe that Christianity (and friends) are bullshitters and the believers in telekinesi stuff.
Get real and quit sniffing stuff dude. [/b]

I think the lot of them were on drugs

Originally Posted by Leo

Isn't there some way that you can be committed somewhere safely for life, before you hurt somebody?
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LoL, your a funny guy.

Well, I was sent for pot and DXM. But at rehab we had no drugs of any form. I was on Prozac and Straterra, but I seriously doubt that had anything to do with it. There was one girl who was there for an addiction to cutting, and she saw it to.

I know its hard to trust somebody who went to rehab, but you have to understand I was completely sober at the time. I was completely clear headed and everything was out of my system when I saw Jeff kill an ant. There is no way he could of planned it out, I was the one who got the ant and asked him to do it (he had told me he could do it before and I wanted proof). I know that it all sounds a little crazy, and it is, thats why I had to post it online, so I could share it.

But who knows maybe I am just fucked up on drugs. But there is no way I was so fucked up I couldn't comprehend what was going on. I felt completely normal after about two days, and nothing strange occured untill the second month.

But does any else who believes me want to comment?

Originally Posted by wer

Well, I was sent for pot and DXM. But at rehab we had no drugs of any form. I was on Prozac and Straterra, but I seriously doubt that had anything to do with it. There was one girl who was there for an addiction to cutting, and she saw it to.

I know its hard to trust somebody who went to rehab, but you have to understand I was completely sober at the time. I was completely clear headed and everything was out of my system when I saw Jeff kill an ant. There is no way he could of planned it out, I was the one who got the ant and asked him to do it (he had told me he could do it before and I wanted proof). I know that it all sounds a little crazy, and it is, thats why I had to post it online, so I could share it.

But who knows maybe I am just fucked up on drugs. But there is no way I was so fucked up I couldn't comprehend what was going on. I felt completely normal after about two days, and nothing strange occured untill the second month.

But does any else who believes me want to comment?
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Why did you wait 4 months before posting it? Surely something this strange would have been posted up far earlier..

Originally Posted by Rory

Why did you wait 4 months before posting it? Surely something this strange would have been posted up far earlier..
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I just got back on Dreamviews. I'm pretty sure that I did post some stuff when I was there. You can check it out if you want.

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/index.php?...c=23384&hl=

There it is. Please note that the demon attacks were near the end of my stay. I never bothered to post it because I wasn't thinking about posting it at the time. I was more concerned for my safety and scared shitless.

I thought rehab was supposed to get you OFF drugs! Seriously, this sounds like something off of a fanfic for FF or HP or something. "And then the deomon atackxored!!!111, Good thang I had my uber l33t phsycic powa to defeatorz him!!!"

Originally Posted by BeautifulDreamer

I thought rehab was supposed to get you OFF drugs! Seriously, this sounds like something off of a fanfic for FF or HP or something. "And then the deomon atackxored!!!111, Good thang I had my uber l33t phsycic powa to defeatorz him!!!"
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Besides the fact that your post made no good points whatsoever, it did manage to make me laugh at your idiocy. I think you need to open your mind a little.

But really, are there any drug users on this forum (I know there are) who can back me up when I say that drugs (at least the ones I used) don't make you go insane. And the fact that I do drugs does not even matter. This all happened when I was sober. Unless I somehow went into a completely delirious state for a month for no reason at all, I dont see any other logical explainations.

I've heard of envoking Demons. And every story has taught me how tricky they are.

It may be no wonder. If you want to be so selfish as to enchant a girl into your arms, instead of doing it naturally, Karma will Kick your ass and you'll always be on the loosing side of this game.


Whoever knows of the story of Doctor Faust, who made a bargain and selled his Soul to the Devil for Power and Money, will know that there is no joy in life to be had, not from power or money or anything, when your soul is lost. The demon will laugh loudest. You will always be nothing but a Toy for Demons. For as far as I believe in demons. I believe in their, but cannot ientify wether they are demons, bad spirits from deceased bad people...Personally I see Demons as the Shadowside of our Own Character. And a Demonoid Persona will only be a manifestation of the evil within yourself. Everyone has this side. Wether you choose to go for Short Term Quick pleasure and Long term Suffering, Or you go for Short term Suffering resulting in Long Term Pleasure/Joy is up to you. If you would Consider these options in Life Mindfull and Conciously, thinking of the Concequences, you should eventually always be able to know what is and what is NOT the right thing to do in order to achieve your heart's desire.

Power, Money, Status...these are all make believe happyness-shortcusts of modern society: they don't lead to happyness mosty of the time, usually to suffering instead. It's misleading. If you want to achieve love, happyness..etc I would sit and meditate and Think of what path REALLY leads you to it and what path will lead you to Suffering, eventhough at first glance it may seem the most reasonable thing to do to achieve success.

Go back to the essence of your goals and Desires and

Anything in Life, even something as Profoundly good natured as Love can lead to suffering if not experienced MINDFULLY, or Conciously.



PS: I am no Stranger to magic Mushrooms and other Entheogenic Psychedelic Drugs: I back you up, Wer, because I know They don't make you insane: they might even leave you with an insight or 2 into your life that seems more sober and realistic than ever before. I smoke pot nearly dayly, it keeps my Mind from wanering too much and enables it to FOCUS my attention by slowing down the Chaotic Thought processes in my head allowing me to focus on 1 thought solely. It's therapeutic bliss if you have a Chaotic Mind like mine.\

In fact Pharmaceutical Drugs prescribed by my PSYCHIATRIST (added up to a F*CKED up home-situation) made me go quite insane and delerious for about 7 months or so. I was just ''gone'' and can barely remember my life during this period. Blank :/

No you know what? Screw those MIND Impurifying ''medications'', If my Mind is a mess again I'll
light a Big fat Joint to calm it down if there's no other way. Much safer and better for you than those ''medications'' they prescribe people. I bet American Innocent harmless People are THROWN into rehab, forced by society, parents and the Government War on-EVERYTHING and also on -Drugs-views, just for Smoking Marijuana. Rediculous.


Thank heavens I live in the Netherlands

Originally Posted by wer

Besides the fact that your post made no good points whatsoever, it did manage to make me laugh at your idiocy. I think you need to open your mind a little.

But really, are there any drug users on this forum (I know there are) who can back me up when I say that drugs (at least the ones I used) don't make you go insane. And the fact that I do drugs does not even matter. This all happened when I was sober. Unless I somehow went into a completely delirious state for a month for no reason at all, I dont see any other logical explainations.
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Well, My mind is not open to 'demons' and that type thing. Especially if this happened at rehab. My mind is also not really open to drugs either. The way you worded it... It sounded weird.

Originally Posted by SKA

I've heard of envoking Demons. And every story has taught me how tricky they are.

It may be no wonder. If you want to be so selfish as to enchant a girl into your arms, instead of doing it naturally, Karma will Kick your ass and you'll always be on the loosing side of this game.
Whoever knows of the story of Doctor Faust, who made a bargain and selled his Soul to the Devil for Power and Money, will know that there is no joy in life to be had, not from power or money or anything, when your soul is lost. The demon will laugh loudest. You will always be nothing but a Toy for Demons. For as far as I believe in demons. I believe in their, but cannot ientify wether they are demons, bad spirits from deceased bad people...Personally I see Demons as the Shadowside of our Own Character. And a Demonoid Persona will only be a manifestation of the evil within yourself. Everyone has this side. Wether you choose to go for Short Term Quick pleasure and Long term Suffering, Or you go for Short term Suffering resulting in Long Term Pleasure/Joy is up to you. If you would Consider these options in Life Mindfull and Conciously, thinking of the Concequences, you should eventually always be able to know what is and what is NOT the right thing to do in order to achieve your heart's desire.

Power, Money, Status...these are all make believe happyness-shortcusts of modern society: they don't lead to happyness mosty of the time, usually to suffering instead. It's misleading. If you want to achieve love, happyness..etc I would sit and meditate and Think of what path REALLY leads you to it and what path will lead you to Suffering, eventhough at first glance it may seem the most reasonable thing to do to achieve success.

Go back to the essence of your goals and Desires and

Anything in Life, even something as Profoundly good natured as Love can lead to suffering if not experienced MINDFULLY, or Conciously.
PS: I am no Stranger to magic Mushrooms and other Entheogenic Psychedelic Drugs: I back you up, Wer, because I know They don't make you insane: they might even leave you with an insight or 2 into your life that seems more sober and realistic than ever before. I smoke pot nearly dayly, it keeps my Mind from wanering too much and enables it to FOCUS my attention by slowing down the Chaotic Thought processes in my head allowing me to focus on 1 thought solely. It's therapeutic bliss if you have a Chaotic Mind like mine.\

In fact Pharmaceutical Drugs prescribed by my PSYCHIATRIST (added up to a F*CKED up home-situation) made me go quite insane and delerious for about 7 months or so. I was just ''gone'' and can barely remember my life during this period. Blank :/

No you know what? Screw those MIND Impurifying ''medications'', If my Mind is a mess again I'll
light a Big fat Joint to calm it down if there's no other way. Much safer and better for you than those ''medications'' they prescribe people. I bet American Innocent harmless People are THROWN into rehab, forced by society, parents and the Government War on-EVERYTHING and also on -Drugs-views, just for Smoking Marijuana. Rediculous.
Thank heavens I live in the Netherlands
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AMEN Brother! You hit a grand slam with this one. You know what's the most fucked up bit of all though. This so called ADD/ADHD bullshit they have came up with as an excuse to put kids on psychoactive drugs that TRULY fuck you up big! My little kid brother isn't even allowed at school if he is not on his meds. The med he takes is "Straterra", you have probably heard of it. When he is on this shit, he has absolutly no appetite. The pharmaceutical industry in this country (USA) needs to be absolutly annihilated!! I mean that with every single fiber of my being.

well, this is all very entertaining.
i checked out that site, pretty voodoo, in my opinion. but i found this nice little article on how to summon demons.

There are different levels of experience when one establishes contact with a Demon:

The Demon speaks to us through our thoughts (telepathy). With telepathy, the words of the Demon come to us through our thoughts. In the beginning, it can be difficult for those who are not as sensitive or lack psychic ability to differentiate between the communication from another entity and their own thoughts. With power meditation and experience, this becomes much easier over time.


We see and hear the Demon. This is with people who are more psychic and open.


We invoke the energy of the Demon. This is powerful and electrifying. We are engulfed in a strong aura. During this time, we will often hear the Demon speak to us and we may in addition, see the Demon.


During an actual summoning, the Demon appears and speaks to us through scrying into a mirror, in the smoke of the incense, or in some other manner. This is best for those who are new. With scrying, if we are sensitive enough, we can often feel the Demon touch us if he/she chooses to do so.


Tangible contact; objects in our rooms are moved, there is actual physical evidence of the Demon having been present.
There are accounts in popular books concerning extremely powerful energies encountered when evoking a Demon. To my knowledge, no one using the methods outlined on this website has ever experienced anything negative or overwhelming. I have invoked Demons many times (see Invocation) and the energy was never beyond anything I couldn’t handle or in any way uncomfortable.

Methods:

Copy, print out or draw the sigil of the Demon you wish to summon on clean paper. It is important that you be left alone and not disturbed in any way. Close your eyes and visualize the sigil in your mind as best you can. It is ok to open them and look at the sigil again ( as many times as needed) to get a clearer image. While visualizing, recite, or chant the name of the Demon repeatedly either in your mind or aloud.

Recite the following prayer:


Lord Satan, by your grace, grant me, I pray thee the power to conceive in my mind and to execute that which I desire to do, the end which I would attain by thy help, O Mighty Satan, the one True God who livest and reignest forever and ever. I entreat thee to inspire__________(name of Demon) to manifest before me that he/she may give me true and faithful answer, so that I may accomplish my desired end, provided that it is proper to his/her office. This I respectfully and humbly ask in Your Name, Lord Satan, may you deem me worthy, Father.

The Demon can manifest in different ways.


Through a mirror as in"scrying." You will see the Demon in the mirror.

Through the smoke of the incense
The Demon appears directly, when one is sensitive enough and in a deep meditative state.
Prepare your area. Your first summoning rituals should be performed at night. The reasons for this are the energies are different at night from those during the day and it is easier to be alone and free from distractions. When one has established relationships with certain Demons, it is no longer necessary to perform a formal summoning ritual. The Demon can appear to us night or day and all we need do is concentrate to contact them through telepathy.

You will need:

A quiet place where you will not be disturbed.
Quality incense with a pleasing fragrance. I strongly recommend when working with any new incense to try it out before the actual ritual or summoning as cheap stinking incense is insulting to the spirits and can be embarrassing in any ritual. See INCENSE
One or more black or blue candles. Black is choice, but blue is ok for a substitute if you cannot obtain black. Also, if available, the candle color of the specific Demon you wish to summon. (These are listed on this website).
Your paper containing the Demon’s sigil.
When finished with the sigil, find a safe place to store it, preferably in your own black book or journal. ALWAYS treat this paper/sigil with extreme respect and NEVER burn it! The sigil can be reused.

There is no need for a nine-foot circle. Demons *hate* circles and there is no need for a “license to depart” as both are offensive and insulting. Treat the Demons with respect and in turn, you will receive the same.

After the petition to Satan, you should feel his positive energy. This is a good sign and a go-ahead. If for some reason the Demon doesn’t answer, try another time. Many times the Demon does appear, but those who are new to summoning are not psychically open enough or experienced to sense him/her. Most people have had to perform the summoning ritual more than once for the Demon to manifest.
Often, the Demon does answer, but many are not aware. Look for coincidences and things out of the ordinary. Awareness here is everything.

Always offer a token of appreciation and gratitude in return for his/her services. Some ideas are publicity for the Demon, working against Christianity, working to advance Satanism or any service that you both can agree upon.

PLEASE READ THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS IF YOU ARE NEW!
People ask the same old questions over and over again in the e-groups. Most questions are answered by clicking on the above link and taking the time to read the information.

IF YOU HAVE HAD PROBLEMS IN GETTING A DEMON TO APPEAR AFTER SEVERAL ATTEMPTS AT SUMMONING, CLICK HERE.



© Copyright 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, Joy of Satan Ministries;
Library of Congress Number: 12-16457

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I really hope they don't expect you to try that.


another thing.

But really, are there any drug users on this forum (I know there are) who can back me up when I say that drugs (at least the ones I used) don't make you go insane. And the fact that I do drugs does not even matter. This all happened when I was sober. Unless I somehow went into a completely delirious state for a month for no reason at all, I dont see any other logical explainations.[/b]

I do/done MANY drugs in my 40-some years. Most of them you'd consider crazy. But my beleive is that drugs only fuck your mind up as much as you beleive they can. I've met some very 'burnt out' people in my travels, I've heard tons of rantings about satan rising before them, seeing god, summoning demons. etc etc. My point is, your mind is a very, very powerful thing, if you beleived in Jeffs powers, then Jeff had powers. If you made that girl beleive that Jeff has powers. Then Jeff has powers. But only to those who beleived, im not saying he tricked you or anything like that, but your mind can fabricate ANYTHING, be it in a dream or not. If you're convinced about something, then it can happen.
It's hard for me to express my veiws on this, most of them have come from experiences, but you get my point i hope.

The same thing, my six year old son comes into my room absolutely terrified. He HAS seen a monster in his closet. You HAVE seen Jeff kill an ant then re-animate it.
Just don't beleive everything you see. You can convince yourself of anything.
People have exploited this, made themselves sick to avoid doing things.
This all sorta ties in to my original idea.

I've had a similar experience in a similar context, That is why I asked...

Originally Posted by icuurd12b42

These people you met in rehab, they closely matched your belief system?
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I hope it scared you straight.

Originally Posted by icuurd12b42

But really, are there any drug users on this forum (I know there are) who can back me up when I say that drugs (at least the ones I used) don't make you go insane. And the fact that I do drugs does not even matter. This all happened when I was sober. Unless I somehow went into a completely delirious state for a month for no reason at all, I dont see any other logical explainations.
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Maybe you did not go insane and saw these things. Maybe you did go insane and saw these things… How could you tell? You’ll need some outside observation from someone else to tell you (And I‘m not talking about Jeff here). I don't want to invalidate your experience; it is, after all, priceless and you experienced it. The fact is, you came in rehab in an altered state (street drugs). You went through rehab in an altered state (Pharmaceuticals which are usually 100 times worst on your mind until you get used to them). Now you are out of there. Hope things are normal for you now and pray you don’t ever see this kind of shit again.

Originally Posted by icuurd12b42

well, this is all very entertaining.
i checked out that site, pretty voodoo, in my opinion. but i found this nice little article on how to summon demons.
I really hope they don't expect you to try that.
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Way to go... Give someone a rope and tell him not to hang himself with it...

Originally Posted by icuurd12b42

another thing.
I do/done MANY drugs in my 40-some years. Most of them you'd consider crazy. But my beleive is that drugs only fuck your mind up as much as you beleive they can. I've met some very 'burnt out' people in my travels, I've heard tons of rantings about satan rising before them, seeing god, summoning demons. etc etc. My point is, your mind is a very, very powerful thing, if you beleived in Jeffs powers, then Jeff had powers. If you made that girl beleive that Jeff has powers. Then Jeff has powers. But only to those who beleived, im not saying he tricked you or anything like that, but your mind can fabricate ANYTHING, be it in a dream or not. If you're convinced about something, then it can happen.
It's hard for me to express my veiws on this, most of them have come from experiences, but you get my point i hope.

The same thing, my six year old son comes into my room absolutely terrified. He HAS seen a monster in his closet. You HAVE seen Jeff kill an ant then re-animate it.
Just don't beleive everything you see. You can convince yourself of anything.
People have exploited this, made themselves sick to avoid doing things.
This all sorta ties in to my original idea.
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There is powerful truth in what is said here. In an altered state (Young minds, drugged minds, senile minds), this becomes even more so and even more dangerous. In an altered stated, you can be drowned by alternate beliefs. I hope you have someone normal around you to help you root yourself in a reality that is suitable to your well being. Don’t get caught up in all this mumbo jumbo crap. Be smart, be observant. In time you’ll get it and it will become obvious to you why this shit is not worth it.

Don't have much experience with drugs. Most I've ever done was weed laced with angel dust. But yeah, I do believe wer. Sure there's no proof, but who cares? Hasn't anybody ever seen shadows before? Can't prove that you've seen them but you have, right?

Originally Posted by SeventhGeneration

well, this is all very entertaining.
My point is, your mind is a very, very powerful thing, if you beleived in Jeffs powers, then Jeff had powers. If you made that girl beleive that Jeff has powers. Then Jeff has powers. But only to those who beleived, im not saying he tricked you or anything like that, but your mind can fabricate ANYTHING, be it in a dream or not. If you're convinced about something, then it can happen.
It's hard for me to express my veiws on this, most of them have come from experiences, but you get my point i hope.

The same thing, my six year old son comes into my room absolutely terrified. He HAS seen a monster in his closet. You HAVE seen Jeff kill an ant then re-animate it.
Just don't beleive everything you see. You can convince yourself of anything.
People have exploited this, made themselves sick to avoid doing things.
This all sorta ties in to my original idea.
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So true! To a large extent we live in our own created ''lies''. Since we don't know the Truth behind everything, and get presented lots of suggestive truths over subjects that are really a Mystery to us ( be it God, Spirits, Demons and such Ungraspable and inexplainable paradoxes) we assume certain truths that are, in fact, self Created:

Yes no bullshit, You can Create your own Truth by Filling in the Blanks of Reasonable reality with your own Imagination.

Just because it is Imagination doesn't mean it cannot be as Real as..well REAL
Just make sure you stay in touch with the ESTABLISHED truth and keep both feet on the Ground: One who dwells only on his or her own Thoughts and Imagination is in danger of traveling beyond the point of return and might end up Psychotic: When you are living in the Reality of your own Imagination, Not in THIS world anymore.

The mind is VERY powerfull. And as Much as you can use that to your joy and advantage ( Meditation, Lucid Dreaming, Psychedelic Experiences ) is as MUCH as it can TURN AGAINST you.

Many people are their own worst enemy because they are lead by Low Impulses and React to them without THINKING and using WISDOM to access the Situation and the Proper Reaction FIRST. People who are not living Conciously, Mindfully and dabble with these powers often use these ''powers of the Mind'' without MINDFULLY thinking of the Conscequences: Something you REALLY might wanna do FIRST when Dabbling with Such Grand Powers.

For the same Reason: Psychedelic Drugs are PROFOUND give you self insight and TONS of Wise Visions on Life and it's surrounding Mysteries: But do it too Much & too Frequently and you'll end up Lost in your OWN reality forever.

When using Psychedelics, you are actually Expanding your Conciousness and allow your Dreaming Subconcious Mind to enter the Concious Pereption and thus ''alter your Perceptional enviroment.

But the Conciousness can only expand for SO much before it methaphorically POPS and your SubConciouss takes over and you loose Concious Control of yourself: this be called Psychosis.

I had one, not from psychedelics but from those TERRIBLE Pharmaceutical ANTI-Psychotic Crap they sell you. ADD/ADHD is a REAL phenomenon, only in the US they think ''Hey how can we make money out of even THIS?'' It's not as bad over here, but they still clamp themselves to these CRUDE, mind messing Drugs.


No I prefer a portion of Mushrooms some 4 times a year much better. Now and then something really crazy like DMT. But never too much and too often. So as too save my Mind. It's really mentally EXHAUSTING. Lovely but you need to rest your Mind after such a heavy experience and Refrain from Stressing it that way again too soon. If you do Psychedelic drugs, Do it MINDFULLY and, as with so many other things in life, it will do you no harm and you'll only get the best of it.

well put.
I probly did well over a hundred lsd trips a year while i was a youngster. This obviously has had some durastic effects on my mind in my old age. Most of them good, some things bad. Some good things i have retained from lsd trips is i have no ego left, no self image. I don't actually have a mirror in my house that i use. My kids use them, but when i look in a mirror i don't see myself, i see this mirror person glaring back at me.
There is so much to be gained from psychedelics if used correctly, you unlock yourself completely, look at your ego and your personality, take 15hours and rebuild it. Turn your flaws into positive things.

I've noticed a huge anti-drug attitude from lots of people on this board.
Why? Marijuana doesn't turn you into a hallucinating lunatic preying on your kids and bank accounts. Sure, there has been, with anything, a few maniacs that couldn't handle using herb for fun and got out of control. But there have been more people destroying their futures with video game addictions and over working. That buisness man, working 18 hour days, cheating on his wife with his secretary, is in worse mental condition than someone who smokes pot and uses mushrooms.

This may be WAY off topic and ifso, delete it. I won't be offended.
But this sorta fit into what Ska was talking about.

Originally Posted by wer

I was practicing psychokinesis and breathing meditation all day, and once the people in my house saw me spinning a pinwheel, all of them asked me how to do it and some tried it.
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Was this something you practiced before going to rehab? Was this something the counselors and staff approved of or knew about?

Every night I would see him meditate, and once he found out a name of one of the kids in a different house.
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I wouldn't find this all that exciting unless he had the person's FULL name and even more information. For all you know, Jeff could have just been manipulating you and actually knew the person in the first place. What if he ended up in rehab with another person and they split them up... this other person being the name he "magically" discovered through telepathy. Seems much more likely than actually gathering the name.

Another time I walked into my room and Jeff was in the bathroom. He came out and he looked all fucked up. He had a blank stare and he didn't even realize I was in the room with him. HE walked a little ways and collapsed. He was out for at least five minutes. After that he curled into a ball and cried. Once he calmed down he told me that he has a demon living in him and its from talking to them and making bargains with them.
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You know, it sounds like he had sneaked some drugs in or was reacting very severly to the drugs they gave him. It doesn't sound to me like he really was having everything happen to him that he thought he was. Even so, just because it might not have really been happening doesn't mean that he didn't completely believe it was happening. This sounds a lot like a bipolar friend of mine, who used to talk about her inner self, the part she hid from everyone, the one that made her want to hurt herself and such, as her demon or "the dragon." Her psycho-fundie family actually believed she had a demon in her because she called it this (she didn't actually believe it), but it just goes to show that how people view themselves and how others view them can really be quite outlandish.

After that I asked him to make a deal with a demon to make the girl I loved fall in love with me.
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Well, that was stupid. No offense, but it was. First thing... you're watching this guy who seems to be suffering majorly becuase of demonic possession... you see a girl who is also in rehab who you've known for a very short time... so you decide to work with this apparently dangerous demon-thing to get what you want and make someone do something against her will. I see that as stupid.

The demons bargain was that in order for him to do that, we would have to run from rehab and bring the girl I loved with us.
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Ah, so Jeff wanted to escape from rehab, did he? Makes sense now.

After we were on shutdown, the girl I loved started telling me about some really bizarre dream. She said one night, a tall, dark figure sewed her lips together and beat her. She said it had been a few days and she still felt the pain. Two days later she was attacked again. Some guy, and she was beat. I knew it was Tartatris. A few days later she got an extreme pain throughout her chest and stomach area. She could barely breath and you could tell it SUCKED.
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Ah, that sucks. So you guys scared her enough that she started experiencing what her mind thought would happen to her if she got involved with demons. Either that or you pointed her out to this demon and it started beating her. Some lover you are. More likely, her meds were fucking with her. I've had incredibly vivid dreams where I was being abused when I was on certain prescription medications. You weren't all completely sober, remember... you were on prescription drugs, which can do everything you've listed.

After that Jeff did some Wiccan spell and the demon fucked off.[/b]

Yeah right. So this Jeff guy is a Satanist who does Wiccan spells to get rid of the demons that he conjured himself. Just doens't quite fit, you know? I think Jeff made up the demon to manipulate you, that this girl was having panic attacks because you freaked her out, and nothing Jeff actually did was really supernatural in any way.

I also saw Jeff kill an ant with his mind, bring it back to life, and kill it again.[/b]

How, exactly, did you know the ant was dead?

One of the staff there used to be a bounty hunter. He moved a key with telekinesis for me.[/b]

Okay. This I'll say is possible, maybe. But I don't see what it has to do with the other experiences.

I looked into Satanism and found out some very interesting things (check out http://www.joyofsatan.com).[/b]

As you know from my response to your other post on Satanism, I think that site is full of crap and shouldn't be believed at all.

But at rehab we had no drugs of any form. I was on Prozac and Straterra, but I seriously doubt that had anything to do with it. [/b]

So, you WERE on drugs - they just happened to be the prescription kind. Remember, these can be a lot stronger than street drugs.

But who knows maybe I am just fucked up on drugs. But there is no way I was so fucked up I couldn't comprehend what was going on. [/b]

You know, I've had a lot of very strange experiences in my life, so I'm not completely dissing what you experienced. And I don't think your experiences had to do with the street drugs you have done. I think part of your perception and ability to think clearly may have been affected by the prescription drugs you were beginning to take (they especially mess you up when you first start them). I also think that this Jeff guy sounds like he's manipulative and made up this stuff. He might have started to believe it himself, making it all the more real. Maybe he really was dealing with demons. If that is the case, I say you're a fool if you decide to go in that direction because of this guy. He was obviously not doing too well.

If your friends are being harrassed by demons because you're started to contact them, you'd better quit if you like your friends at all. Not that I believe you're dealing with demons in the first place, but IF you are, you'd better play it safe.

Good luck.