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      Responding to the original post:

      Some people are born with a "short circuit" in their brain, like a cross between connections that interoperate smell and vision. This phenomenon can result in the person to actually see what they smell/feel/(other sense). What they are said to see looks like an aurora of sorts, or a "cloud of distorting color." If one were to see what they felt, and they felt that a person was mad and they associated mad with the color red they would see a red aurora, or in your case whatever color you saw when you were with your parents. I don't know if this is what you are experiencing, but that's what it sounds like to me.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cd27 View Post
      Ahem...just stating the obvious, you see energy all the time. everything around you, from your room, to your computer, to you yourself, it is all a form of energy to its deepest creation. what you have to understand is how 'vision' works. you see energy, some see more of it, or less of it. those who can see more of it see more about the universe and some see less about the universe. it's simple, if you can see 'energy', then most likely it's really what's YOU are seeing. it's an individual thing.

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      Well yeah my Mind is open to anything. I've named it ''seeing energy'' because that is what it seemed like: Like one of those Transparent Energy-forceFields as seen in Science fiction movies. And thus I used the term Energy to prescribe it. It could very well be since I see more ''things'' that are of the same nature since I've become more and more aware of the phenomenon. Sometimes colored shapes and bright white lights in the corner of my vision. they're usually there when I look around: I catch a glimpse of such a colored, illuminated shape very briefly. Nothing disturbing, only enjoyable and miraculous.

      Whatever may be the cause it is there defenitely. And I always imagine ''gridlines'' of a second reality all around me on which I sometimes can see this Second reality. Especially very strong when I'm on magic Mushrooms: what I see I interpret it as '' the second reality'' becomming more visable and projected on those ''gridlines''
      Not to say I am looking into another Universe or something. I just gave it a name and made up this ''Second Reality'' idea as a Methaphor: Not to be taken litterally: just so I can get my head around it. Methaphors work great for me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      Well yeah my Mind is open to anything. I've named it ''seeing energy'' because that is what it seemed like: Like one of those Transparent Energy-forceFields as seen in Science fiction movies. And thus I used the term Energy to prescribe it. It could very well be since I see more ''things'' that are of the same nature since I've become more and more aware of the phenomenon. Sometimes colored shapes and bright white lights in the corner of my vision. they're usually there when I look around: I catch a glimpse of such a colored, illuminated shape very briefly. Nothing disturbing, only enjoyable and miraculous.

      Whatever may be the cause it is there defenitely. And I always imagine ''gridlines'' of a second reality all around me on which I sometimes can see this Second reality. Especially very strong when I'm on magic Mushrooms: what I see I interpret it as '' the second reality'' becomming more visable and projected on those ''gridlines''
      Not to say I am looking into another Universe or something. I just gave it a name and made up this ''Second Reality'' idea as a Methaphor: Not to be taken litterally: just so I can get my head around it. Methaphors work great for me.
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      I've actually seen a gridline reailty during Sleep-Paralysis when I layed there wondering what side I was laying on (and my brain produced a near perfect set of purple/blue 3d grids of objects in front of my field of vision).

      Anyway, I think my peripheral vision is fine, I don't know, I've never really payed attention to it before. I'll get it checked out by a doctor anyway.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SleepingInsomniac View Post
      Responding to the original post:

      Some people are born with a "short circuit" in their brain, like a cross between connections that interoperate smell and vision. This phenomenon can result in the person to actually see what they smell/feel/(other sense). What they are said to see looks like an aurora of sorts, or a "cloud of distorting color." If one were to see what they felt, and they felt that a person was mad and they associated mad with the color red they would see a red aurora, or in your case whatever color you saw when you were with your parents. I don't know if this is what you are experiencing, but that's what it sounds like to me.
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      Wait do you mean Synesthesia? there's a topic about it in Attaining lucidity.
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      for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.

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      I think I understand what the OP is saying and it is different from any of the effects that program presents. It's kind of like a static pattern I see in low light, and it's different from hypnagogic imagery or phosphors. It is really distinct when I'm relaxed and never forms on people. It also isn't there when I'm stoned, but is super-intense on cid.
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      Just noticed this topic, but i'm a little confused. It seems either you people are talking about two distinctly differen phenomena or i've interpretted SKA's original post as something other than what it is.

      I get the little cell shadow things sometimes when i look into the sky. Not white dots, but silhouette type fragments. However, i thought SKA's original post was referring to something else....

      When i was a kid i was often wake up in the night and find that i had coloured dots in my field of vision. However, unlike what most of you seem to be describing, they weren't moving in random directions and vanishing out of vision or anything like that. They were very stable, and they would move together in a rotational movement seemingly around my body/the bed. They never pulsated, never strayed from their solid "formation", they were just constant and moving in unison, around me. Or so it looked like. Imagine, if you can, being inside a bubble, and on the outside of the bubble somebody had drapped a net. At each crossing section of the net they had placed little coloured lights (not white, but solid colours). Now, imagine that this net is being pulled around the bubble in one direction and as a result all of the lights are moving around the bubble at the same speed, in the same direction. That's what it was like. I don't get this any more though. I haven't for years.

      SKA, is this what you were originally posting about, or did you mean the white/silhouette particals that flicker around randomly?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ardent View Post
      Just noticed this topic, but i'm a little confused. It seems either you people are talking about two distinctly differen phenomena or i've interpretted SKA's original post as something other than what it is.

      I get the little cell shadow things sometimes when i look into the sky. Not white dots, but silhouette type fragments. However, i thought SKA's original post was referring to something else....

      When i was a kid i was often wake up in the night and find that i had coloured dots in my field of vision. However, unlike what most of you seem to be describing, they weren't moving in random directions and vanishing out of vision or anything like that. They were very stable, and they would move together in a rotational movement seemingly around my body/the bed. They never pulsated, never strayed from their solid "formation", they were just constant and moving in unison, around me. Or so it looked like. Imagine, if you can, being inside a bubble, and on the outside of the bubble somebody had drapped a net. At each crossing section of the net they had placed little coloured lights (not white, but solid colours). Now, imagine that this net is being pulled around the bubble in one direction and as a result all of the lights are moving around the bubble at the same speed, in the same direction. That's what it was like. I don't get this any more though. I haven't for years.

      SKA, is this what you were originally posting about, or did you mean the white/silhouette particals that flicker around randomly?
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      Oh wow I know what you are talking about. I've seen those also before when I was younger I start staring up at the ceiling, I'll see a bunch of say.. yellow dots all start flying toward the right, and stop, and fly in a different direction. The odd thing is, I could control which way the would go. If they started going to the left, I would "to the right" and they decelerate to a stop, and go to the right, before switching to another direction on their own.

      I should see if I can still see these.

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      Quote Originally Posted by blade5x View Post
      I could control which way the would go. If they started going to the left, I would "to the right" and they decelerate to a stop, and go to the right, before switching to another direction on their own.[/b]
      You can do that looking at static on TV too. Make/find a shape out of the static and then you can move it around and it has momentum so it doesn't stop immediately, try it. I used to do it waiting for the teacher to work out the VCR anyway.

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      Quote Originally Posted by blade5x View Post
      Oh wow I know what you are talking about. I've seen those also before when I was younger I start staring up at the ceiling, I'll see a bunch of say.. yellow dots all start flying toward the right, and stop, and fly in a different direction. The odd thing is, I could control which way the would go. If they started going to the left, I would "to the right" and they decelerate to a stop, and go to the right, before switching to another direction on their own.
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      Yes! I could do the same thing.

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      SKA: i think i see the same thing that you describe

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      Claiming it is energy you see when you see some random lights is pretty far feched. All you see is your braincells that normally recieve information from the nerveous cells in your eyes randomly getting activated. Or at least the part of your brain that proceces what you see that gets into a pratially dreamy state.

      You cannot really see energy, it is all in your head (but still pretty pretty/cool).

      Also, on the topic of 'seeing energy': people that 'see aura's' see the same thing anyone sees if they stare at an object long enough, they see an optically-negative-colored outlining. Becouse your eyes can just see 3 kind of colors, if a few of them see the same color alot they give less intense signals to your brains, so if you move your head a fraction they give relatively more signals of one, two of the kind of nerve-cells than the other onces, thus producing an optically-negative color of the color of the object.

      It's not that hard, just hard to explain

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      Hey Neruo!!!

      Man, it's ages since I've seen your ass around here! Where you been? Weren't you banned or something?

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      Yeah, I've seen them. I think that they are just an illusion (not to say that I don't believe in energy manipulation. I have made my fair share of psi balls). I can even change the direction of their movement at will. I am pretty sure that I am just changing my perception, like with those cubes that can be looked at in two ways.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ardent View Post
      Just noticed this topic, but i'm a little confused. It seems either you people are talking about two distinctly differen phenomena or i've interpretted SKA's original post as something other than what it is.

      I get the little cell shadow things sometimes when i look into the sky. Not white dots, but silhouette type fragments. However, i thought SKA's original post was referring to something else....

      When i was a kid i was often wake up in the night and find that i had coloured dots in my field of vision. However, unlike what most of you seem to be describing, they weren't moving in random directions and vanishing out of vision or anything like that. They were very stable, and they would move together in a rotational movement seemingly around my body/the bed. They never pulsated, never strayed from their solid "formation", they were just constant and moving in unison, around me. Or so it looked like. Imagine, if you can, being inside a bubble, and on the outside of the bubble somebody had drapped a net. At each crossing section of the net they had placed little coloured lights (not white, but solid colours). Now, imagine that this net is being pulled around the bubble in one direction and as a result all of the lights are moving around the bubble at the same speed, in the same direction. That's what it was like. I don't get this any more though. I haven't for years.

      SKA, is this what you were originally posting about, or did you mean the white/silhouette particals that flicker around randomly?
      [/b]

      The sillhouette particles I see when I look in a blue Sky are different, but I thought it was the same thing but looked different in daylight.

      The ''Bubble'' that you prescribe sounds very familiar to what I've seen alot as a kid when I awoke from a nigthmare and got into my mom&dad's bed. Like a sphere around the bed, and outside the sphere would be the light particles, colored, transparent. They would sometimes kind of float around like dust, rather slow. More like they were steady in place but they were waving a little. If you were to grab the nets left and right and start pulling it left and right up and down. Like falling light snowflakes but the n colored dots.
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      when you were saying the tv part i was thinking HI lol

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      ok I'm going to tell you something i've experienced and tell me if its similar to what your talking about because I can't really pin point what your talking about.

      If I close my eyes and rub my eyes and keep my hands on my eyes in less than 30 seconds a dream like footage will start to shape. If I can hold it and concentrate enough it can probably turn into a dream. So one day I've done it the longest ever (Maybe 2 mins) when I let go and open my eyes it always looks as if I just woke up but I could be riding a bike or doing anything in the real world, so I know I wasn't dreaming or even close to sleep.

      So anyway that one day where I held it the longest a green like particle was forming now when I opened my eyes that same green circle was in the physical plane. I could turn my head and look back there and I'd see the same green thing there. It wasn't until a maybe 15-45 mins did it then go away.

      Few years back I couldn't tell if I was awake or dreaming, due to the fact that I would always see stuff around me. I still remember one time sitting in class hearing a big bang which made me jump up in class and keep note I was still awake.

      Only thing I could think of it being is that some how you manage to shift on another level or plane or whatever you want to call it. Its kind of like hearing about ultra violent rays that you can't really see on this plane but if you had a special tool you could see it. Same with radio waves.

      One thing is for sure though everything has energy, because if you can astral project your basically an energy but you can see your hands and stuff only if you perceive to see your hands and legs.

      I do think you are seeing something but I don't know how.

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      Hey I've noticed those colors and stuff you talk about, SKA. I see them all the time before I go to sleep, when I am deeply relaxed, when blood rushes to my head and when I push on my eyes! When you push on your eyes you see many colors growing and spinning, like what Distant Light was talking about. ^^^

      I often thought that this was also part of HI, but not sure, anyone got scientific explanations? I always see it at night, as I said.

      Oh by the way, here's something slightly related: http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/inde...howtopic=37392

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