A Possibility?

[ExoByte]

I was just wondering if it was possible for skills taught in lucidity to transfer over to the awake world. For example, Im not that great a drawer. Say I want to be able to draw better, and I taught myself in lucidity over the course of 2 or 3 dreams. Would I be able to transfer this quickly learned, new skill into the real world? I would think its possible because your working with your mind, but Im not too experianced with this. I mean, of course skills like flying are impossible to transfer, but realistic skills such as drawing, driving, peripheral vision, martial arts (as long as you arent super matrix =P ) Thanks

[NeAvO]

I'm not that experienced at LDing but I have heard that you can teach yourself skills in LD's. Like become a good public speaker and practise sports ect. So I can't see why improving drawing skills would be a problem.

[blade5x]

I was just wondering if it was possible for skills taught in lucidity to transfer over to the awake world. For example, Im not that great a drawer. Say I want to be able to draw better, and I taught myself in lucidity over the course of 2 or 3 dreams. Would I be able to transfer this quickly learned, new skill into the real world? I would think its possible because your working with your mind, but Im not too experianced with this. I mean, of course skills like flying are impossible to transfer, but realistic skills such as drawing, driving, peripheral vision, martial arts (as long as you arent super matrix =P ) Thanks [/b] I'd say as long the required criteria match (such as being physically fit for Martial Arts), then it could be done, but it'd be difficult as your brain would have to simulate a near physical existance world for you - which is possible.

[ExoByte]

So such things are possible, just can be difficult? Im just curious, as Im hoping to first attain lucidity soon. I want to be prepared for anything. Im not going to run before I can walk, but I want to go in knowing everything I can

[Howie]

So such things are possible, just can be difficult? Im just curious, as Im hoping to first attain lucidity soon. I want to be prepared for anything. Im not going to run before I can walk, but I want to go in knowing everything I can [/b] Lucid dreaming is certainly used as a tool for learning. It is good to have a plan going into lucidity. Often if you don't, you may find you have no focus and can waste a good lucid dream. Some people create a room in their lucid dreams that they go to each time they become lucid. In this room they may practice their golf swing, or in your case drawing. Another good thing is that your subconscious may put a twist on things that you may never have been open to in your waking endeavors. One thing to point out is that fundamentals for anything don't come out of the blue. So drawing or golf, chess etc. You have to learn the fundamentals in order to practice them correctly. In fact if you learn something incorrect and practice it...well then it would have adverse effects.

[ExoByte]

Yeah, I understand that. I was just using drawing as an example, though it is something I would like to learn as well. Im just trying to understand what can be done with Lucid Dreaming, as I know if you don't believe you can do something in LD, you can't. I want to know as much as I can so that I dont end up doubting my abilities during LDing. Im anxious to start this, and I've been trying many things (Pelting myself with Subliminal messeges is one...) except my biggest problem is I cannot remember my dreams at all. Which I know will feel weird when I finnally do, because suddenly I'll remember this part of my life that I actually lived. Im constantly doing reality checks, hypnosis, subliminal messeges, and getting prepared for when it finnally does happen so that I'm ready for it. Any tips on that would be appreciated btw. As well, I hear that many people's first Lucid Dream is the greatest experience of their life, Im looking foreward to that. However, I believe I had a LD before... but cant remember it. I woke up breathing heavy, sweating a bit and heart racing. It was after I first started some of these methods. Would having one but not remembering take away the "Original" feeling? Last thing, I've also been wondering, if, forgive the term(Just cant think of a better name), Dream Invasion is possible. Like entering someone elses dream. I've heard of shared dreaming and such, and how it could possible for 2 people to connect, I'm acctually looking foreward to finding out myself if that is possible. I have a friend who I'd like to meet in the dream world, but shes also having trouble with Lucidity. Shes not the strongest willed, and shes already starting to give up. I was wondering if it would be possible to enter one of her dreams, and let her know she is dreaming. I was also thinking, that since if your in your dream, your technically in your mind, would it be possible to help someones dream recall inside their dream? If I was in her dream, could I help her improve her recall? I could help her become lucid until she got the hang of it, but she'd need a way to remember her dreams. Any one have anything to say on that? Thanks again... sorry for the bugging

[zoo york is cool]

It would probably be as if it was real life. You practice and you get better. That's my thought.

[Neo Neo]

Heres some big advice: believing is everything. intentions and methods are useful, but it is my thought that all a person needs to lucid dream is a will to want to do it. for example, to remember dreams, you already know you have them every nite. now you must believe that you will remember them and let things happen. just dont force anything. if you read Stephan LaBerge's book, Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming, then it has accounts of people lucid dreaming something, then they are able to do it in real life. it is possible, like blade5x said, if your physical body/mind has everything necessary to do whatever your doing in the dream (assuming its possible in waking life ) then you'd be able to do it in real life. the brain functions the same way in sleep and dreaming, so movements done in dreams can be done in real life. lets say for example, i want to get better at piano. assuming i already know the basics of it, if i have lucid dreams about practicing insane passages and techniques i wouldnt normally be able to do, i could (in theory) get better. Also, for dream sharing, its possible, but requires great concentration and a willingness to do it. i havnt, but then again havnt really took time to try. learning to dream share is like learning to lucid dream; it comes with basic experience of dreaming and dream recall. and again your will. with these things you cant doubt yourself, and if you feel that you do (and believe me i get doubts when i dont lucid dream for forever) you just have to have patience and know that everything will turn out the way its supposed to. an example of believing is an AP experience i had. I assume people here believe in AP, and without any real knowledge of the astral plane or psychic protection against myself, i was able to leave my body. my friend gave me a rope visualization technique, i believe in it and decided to try it to see if it worked. well then it did, i felt my "consciousness" or "astral" body float out of my physical body and i was in this effed up place combining dreams and real life. aka the buffer zone because its between the astral and physical plane. well i finally knew i did it when i attended a Reiki share. the practitioners around me found a piece of rope stuck in my astral body. after they "removed it" , that area of my stomach/chest felt sooooo much better. weirdness. so lesson learned with AP, make sure you know all about it before you attempt it!

[Naturally Lucid]

Definately - esp. practicing something - but if you learn how to do all the chords for a song w/o ever knowing them in the first place - which is possible - you probably wont remember in the morning- maybe you will one of the major things that transfers - besides your level of concsiousness - is getting over a fear of something - which may take more than one dream - or being a person that is more ____.