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      Well okay I've mentioned this before briefly in some topics but now I wanted to know If I'm just nuts or anyone else has experienced what I have always have and still often experience.

      I turn off the light, get ready for sleep, lay in bed staring into the darkness of my room for a while.
      And pretty much instantly I start seeing a sort of ''Dynamical Energy''. Sounds weird but I wouldn't knwo any other way of prescribing it. It looks like what you see on a TVScreen which has no signal: Only less dense, Very colorfull, Transparent and Moving all around me.

      I have this prior to sleeping while gazing into my dark bedroom, but I've had it in my youth too: I would have a very Disturbing Nightmare, Wak up in shock and still in fear, Run to my Parents bedroom and get in their safe bed. As I lay there I would see that ''Dynamic Energy'' all around me, especially concentrated like a Sphere around my Parenst bed.
      It always made me feel safe and protected. Lately I've been having it while sitting in the Brightest sunlight especially while looking into the blue Sky: Same Dynamic movement but then the ''Particles'' were more like shadow spots in the sky: These ''Particles'' are almost always Integrated into my Drawings when I draw.
      But I've never fully understood what it was.

      You know what? I might try and DRAW what I'm talking about, scan it and post it here in This Topic: maybe someone will recognise it as something he or she has seen also.

      Anyone else have experienced this? Please share it with me, and also share your reflections on what it may be.
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      Do you think you have been experiencing SP at the time?
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      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      Lately I&#39;ve been having it while sitting in the Brightest sunlight especially while looking into the blue Sky: Same Dynamic movement but then the &#39;&#39;Particles&#39;&#39; were more like shadow spots in the sky: These &#39;&#39;Particles&#39;&#39; are almost always Integrated into my Drawings when I draw.[/b]
      I see that as well. I juggle so I&#39;m looking up a lot, the first time I noticed it was juggling on a sunny day looking up at a cloudless sky. I don&#39;t know what it is. The best way I can describe the movement of the &#39;particles&#39; is like a swarm of insects. If I concentrate I can see them more clearly. I&#39;ve never noticed it in the dark (but I&#39;ll keep a look out tonight).

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
      I see that as well. I juggle so I&#39;m looking up a lot, the first time I noticed it was juggling on a sunny day looking up at a cloudless sky. I don&#39;t know what it is. The best way I can describe the movement of the &#39;particles&#39; is like a swarm of insects. If I concentrate I can see them more clearly. I&#39;ve never noticed it in the dark (but I&#39;ll keep a look out tonight).
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      No one is crazy, I can see these "white dancing particles" when I first wake up and stare at the sky. The weird thing is, if I focus directly on the sky, I can&#39;t see them. However, if I focus on say the treeline, I see thousands of them in my peripheral vision. I don&#39;t know what they are. Probably some bloodcells or something in your eye. They are very bright though which is weird.
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      I see those particles as well, and i think a few of my friends do too. And I also agree that they are blood cells or something in that category.

      When you first explain that light, it sounds almost like an aura, but its not centered around anyone that you know of, and the feeling of security is interesting.

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      Sometimes I see purplish swirls of color in the darkeness. I&#39;m not sure what this is, but I know that when you are in darkness your eyes produce some kind of "visual purple" compound that helps you see in the dark.
      Found an article about this stuff : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodopsin



      The little pixels that we see while looking at the sky are shadows of dead cells and other garbage that is suspended in the liquid inside our eyes. This liquid can move and has some inertia. So when we look at the sky and move our eyes the liquid moves slower than the rest of the eye itself. So we see these pixels slowly following our eye movements.

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      Go here, install the software and play with the settings (F1). I suggest you max all the settings. Some of you may get answers.

      http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/index.php?...st&p=333503

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      yeah I once even concidered they might be bacteria i my eyes that I was seeing when I stopped focussing on my Physical Surroundings lol.

      Well appearantly we have hit and found a new mystery: The mystery of the moving particles whahah. But it&#39;s good to hear so many people having experienced the same thing.
      Actually in darkness they are strongest: As soon as I flip off the lights they are there very obviously present. But if I look for them, they are almost always there. It&#39;s just that Bright Blue Skies or Complete darkness seem to be the best &#39;&#39;backgrounds&#39;&#39; to see them most obviously on.

      Darkness seems to Skyrocket my &#39;&#39;particle Vision&#39;&#39;. Well whatever they are, they&#39;re enjoyable and inspired alot of my Drawings.

      PS: No I didn&#39;t have any SP simultaniously. It&#39;s Usually when I walk to the LightSwitch to turn it off. As soon as I hit the Lights the weird ass particles appear dancing all around me. I lurv particles =D
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      I know what you&#39;re talking about in your other post icuurd12b42, I&#39;ve seen those too I think. This is something different however. I looked at the simulation pictures on that website. Sometimes I get the &#39;starbursting due to floaters&#39; but I never get the other things, and hope I never do&#33; This is probably something similar though.

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      If these particles are the result of something inside our eyes, then why now? I never noticed things like this when I was a kid, or maybe I was so full of life and joy I didn&#39;t care. Who knows...
      "Conflicting mentality's have shattered my perception of reality"

      "Any truth I say is a contradiction because this reality is a contradiction." -> SolSkye, because I couldn't have stated it better.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
      I know what you&#39;re talking about in your other post icuurd12b42, I&#39;ve seen those too I think. This is something different however.
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      I am not one to dismiss cool phenomenon but I do prefer the medical explanations over esoteric ones as it is much easier to get your head around it that way.

      Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
      I looked at the simulation pictures on that website. Sometimes I get the &#39;starbursting due to floaters&#39; but I never get the other things, and hope I never do&#33; This is probably something similar though.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
      If these particles are the result of something inside our eyes, then why now? I never noticed things like this when I was a kid, or maybe I was so full of life and joy I didn&#39;t care. Who knows...
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      As you get older, it is unfortunate but, you will gradually experience defects. I don’t see my floaters now. Maybe they’re gone. Bad diet may cause this in a long run.

      I put it up so that people have at least something known to compare the phenomenon with.
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      googled "seeing energy". i went to a sorcery forum and found this:

      I gave hime the gist about the Naguals world. I told him that we live in a physical world but what the people i&#39;ve been reading about have discovered. that there are energetic facts. When these people look at other humans. they can see a luminous shape like a ball or an egg (this is exactly what i was saying to him). These people noticed that the ball consisted on fibers and filaments. some fibers lit up and some were not lit up. They also saw that the fibers went outside the ball as if passing through it. The fibers that were lit up were connected to a point about the size of a fist on the surface of the luminous shape.

      They determined that that was the point where perception was assembled. because the fibers with the glow of awareness were connected to it. i Told him that the sorcerers that i read about, claimed that they could make the assemblage point shift. that when they do this it allows other fibers to pass through it allowing them to percieve something else&#33;
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      Ahem...just stating the obvious, you see energy all the time. everything around you, from your room, to your computer, to you yourself, it is all a form of energy to its deepest creation. what you have to understand is how &#39;vision&#39; works. you see energy, some see more of it, or less of it. those who can see more of it see more about the universe and some see less about the universe. it&#39;s simple, if you can see &#39;energy&#39;, then most likely it&#39;s really what&#39;s YOU are seeing. it&#39;s an individual thing.

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      Wow. Upon reading your first post, SKA, I must say I know exactly what you&#39;re talking about, however I thought I was the only crazy one.

      Ever since I was a little boy I can see what looks like particles that seem to swarm around in the air. They move up and down and around and around, but I don&#39;t believe they follow a certain pattern. I discount SP simply because if I concentrated and relaxed at this very moment, I&#39;d be able to see it- and i&#39;m at goddam work.

      It would be very interesting if this phenomenon is linked to an underlining implicate order, or a new age "energy" field, but I also must play Devil&#39;s Advocate and assume it could also just be a natural but very strange occurence that is linked with our eyesight.

      I do know that: A.) I can see these particles either during the night when light is low, or in a setting where there are very bright artificial lights, such as at work or a porn studio. B) It seems that I must be in a relaxed state to witness said experience, and finally C.) when i ask if anyone else can see it, of course the answer is NO (which could be indicative of just a natural phenomena occuring with vision.)

      Either way, I think the only way to find out would be taking scary amounts of shrooms and just asking the "energy-particles" themselves.


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      I also wondered what this is. They are not floaters, I have floaters in my left eye and they look like clear bacteria.

      When I look into the sky, I&#39;ll start seeing a swarm of little white sparks flying around in randomly directions. I can focus on one and watch it disappear, meaning, these little white sparks have a short life span, but there are constantly new ones coming into site just as fast as others are disappearing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by blade5x View Post
      I also wondered what this is. They are not floaters, I have floaters in my left eye and they look like clear bacteria.

      When I look into the sky, I&#39;ll start seeing a swarm of little white sparks flying around in randomly directions. I can focus on one and watch it disappear, meaning, these little white sparks have a short life span, but there are constantly new ones coming into site just as fast as others are disappearing.
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      Thank You&#33; This is exactly what I am talking about.
      "Conflicting mentality's have shattered my perception of reality"

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      Y&#39;all need to read the Holographic Universe.


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      Quote Originally Posted by blade5x View Post
      I also wondered what this is. They are not floaters, I have floaters in my left eye and they look like clear bacteria.

      When I look into the sky, I&#39;ll start seeing a swarm of little white sparks flying around in randomly directions. I can focus on one and watch it disappear, meaning, these little white sparks have a short life span, but there are constantly new ones coming into site just as fast as others are disappearing.
      [/b]
      Have your tried the simulation software I posted. If you toggle the blood cells (a lot of "p"s) and boost the luminescence (a lot of "i"s), you get this effect.
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      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE("blade5x")</div>
      I also wondered what this is. They are not floaters, I have floaters in my left eye and they look like clear bacteria.

      When I look into the sky, I&#39;ll start seeing a swarm of little white sparks flying around in randomly directions. I can focus on one and watch it disappear, meaning, these little white sparks have a short life span, but there are constantly new ones coming into site just as fast as others are disappearing.[/b]
      I know what you mean, me too.

      Quote Originally Posted by icuurd12b42 View Post
      Have your tried the simulation software I posted. If you toggle the blood cells (a lot of "p"s) and boost the luminescence (a lot of "i"s), you get this effect.[/b]
      Hey, you&#39;re right, that&#39;s exactly what it is. I just tried it.

      Eye Floaters and Flashes Simulator

      What we&#39;re seeing are retina blood cells apparently. If you change the "i" and "p" settings to 0.130000 and 500, that&#39;s roughly how I can see it.

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      Uh is this bad then? Do I possibly have retinal detachment going on?

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      If you only have 1 or 2 small floaters that do not annoy you, and you have not been experiencing flashes of light, then this is completely normal. Almost everyone gets floaters sometime in their life, like how everyone gets headaches. Some people notice their floaters, some don&#39;t. [/b]
      Are eye floaters serious, even without the flashes?

      >While eye floaters will not cause vision loss or blindness, it can cause significant danger while driving, or even crossing the road.[/b]
      I think you only have Posterior Vitreous Detachment if you get flashes. Fortunately I don&#39;t.

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      I think I have what you are saying, seeing all these very tiny dots in the dark? I started getting it when I was like 6, scared me. Thought my eyes were broken lol
      It sort has stopped now though.
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      Quote Originally Posted by blade5x View Post
      Uh is this bad then? Do I possibly have retinal detachment going on?
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      Do you have high blood pressure?

      You will experience these (blood cell thingies) when you get a rush of blood to the head. Yawning, stretching, standing up after sitting for a long time, etc. All normal (unless it persists for more than a few seconds). If you have high blood pressure, you&#39;ll see it more often. Retinal detachment, you&#39;d notice as a progressive loss of peripheral vision (If I remember right). Ask your eye doctor about it.
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      Another possiblity besides Hypnaogics or the other things mentioned, is Kundalini lights in the head. I haven&#39;t experienced this. For a thematic on the subject see
      http://shalomplace.com/view/kundalini.html
      I&#39;ve got the full version of this book and the author says he saw lights while falling asleep and when surrendering in prayer to God, they were "an aurora borealis of ultra-purple and shimmering gold lights. Sometimes the lights would assume round patterns: small circles would expand and eventually dissipate, only to be followed by other small circles of light."

      Of course it&#39;s terribly difficult to judge someone else&#39;s experience or interpretation of an experience.





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