Oobe And...shapeshifting?!

**Green_Violin** · 09-26-2006 12:14 AM

I'm able to OBE naturally when I sleep, I don't mean to and thus don't know when it's going to happen. But I usually OBE to the old Maple trees at my old school in WA, because I had a spiritual totem who was planted there at one point, so I'm drawn to these trees somehow.

Anyways, I found out my spiritual totem (another Maple) was torn down after visiting WA recently. Two or three nights later I have an OBE and I am sitting on the tree just next to my Totem, and then I have this extremly wierd vision/dream vision, but I know I was OBEing, I can tell the differance. So I'm confused.

Here's what I saw:

I saw myself sitting in the tall branches of the tree and suddenly a massive black cloud is coming from the East, and inside the cloud is a wall of fire. I can litterally feel the heat from where I am. I try to get away but I am entangled or paralyzed and just can't move.

Suddenly, the cloud turns into thousands and thousands of ravens and black birds (very symbolic to me...) I reach my hands up towards them and they are sourrounding the tree. Then the wall of fire explodes and my face and body are burning, and terrified.

I fall down and as I fall, I fall into a more peaceful, exotic but peaceful state of mind....I see outside myself again and everything has brown/sepia color tones, and I am turning into a raven myself. I have huge wings and scales on my feet and all my feathers are burning. Then I return back out of the vision and then back into my body.

Had a mild Sleep paralysis episode, which is common for me after vivid dreams/OBEing, and while having the episode I hear the ravens and "see" them eating my charred body. I wake up with a start. Haven't OBE'd that well since, and no more dreams of Mother Nora, or any of the Maples at my school.

Any ideas on what this meant, or what the heck was going on? Blackbirds (especially brier's black birds) are very symbolic to me, and Raven is my close friend's totem animal. I suppose now that Mother Nora (the totem I spoke of, the tree that was taken down prior to this OBE/vision) is gone, my brier's are even more important to me, because they are still with me, tho my Tree is not.

Sorry if this is in the wrong place. It sounded too exotic for the dream Interpretation thread

**Green_Violin** · 09-26-2006 05:48 PM

Maybe....um...it's not understandable..?

**italianmonkey** · 09-27-2006 06:59 PM

sure not more understandable than for yourself.

i'm tired and sad, so i spit random stuff:

flaming raven: phoenix?

eating : intimate somehow. complete assimilation, becoming the loved thing - like the bite but deeper...

your interpration seems to make sense...

you are the first i read-heard from with a vegetal totem.

(not grapevine, nor ivy anymore, renounced to loveflower, closed eyes to laurel - they were me, raised me, i'm alone now)

sorry for all my BS

it's that i like how you write and it makes me feel better for some time

**Green_Violin** · 09-27-2006 09:46 PM

It makes sense to me, I had no clue at all--these are wonderful interpretations! Thank you very much! I'm new to the boards and too shy to make a "get to know me" thread anywhere....but I really appreciate your comment

and thank you for the compliments on my writting, I was afraid I wasn't being very clear.

and I dunno...I really love birds (chickadees and brier blackbirds; chickadees because they come with the Winter and bring the Spring when they leave again, and Brier blackbirds because I feel very close to them, curious, and always wandering around trying to be friendly, easy to misunderstand things..) but I feel my real totem is a Maple tree.

When I was very small, I lived in Washington state, and at the age of 7, I was diagnosed withn moderate/severe Tourette's syndrome, which is a ticcing disorder. So you can understand that school was hard for me, because I couldn't control my voice or body--lots of bullies and all.

Well, I made up my own friends--mostly faery people. I don't know if I made them up or not, I've always seen ghosts and fae and stuff. Anyways, I found out that I felt these beings more when I was around a certain maple, whom I came to know as Mother Nora. She was an instant friend. Always there for me when I was lonley, and when I'd cry, she was very comforting to me. She didn't mind my Tourettes and didn't talk back or taunt me, she was...my love, my soulmate. I felt I could do anything as long as I had Mother Nora.

Sadly, Mother Nora was torn out this last Summer. I went back to the school to see her, because I often see her in dreams--but when I got to were she was, there was just a mound of dirt, not even a stump. I guess she got too old and posed a threat to the children (wood rot,) so they felt it best that she not endager herself or the children, so they took her out. 3 days after this last encounter, I had this OBE/vision, so it makes sense to me that you would say "Pheonix" and "intimate, because I feel Nora was reborn into the universe and eventually, I'll find her again in another form. We had a very intiment relationship, I'd say, though not sexually or perverse--she was, I think, my one true soul mate. I miss her very much.

Thank you for posting to this, it made me so happy! I was worried I didn't explain myself very well. I hope I will see you around the boards more

Katherine

**italianmonkey** · 09-29-2006 10:38 PM

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