Thread: Mind Altering Substances

There was a noticeable increase in vividness and recall, I had several dreams that night. In fact, I woke up from one of my dreams thinking that it had actually happened (I had broken a bone that immobilized my entire body and when I woke up I still felt frozen). However, when I went back to sleep, I quickly forgot all of the details because my brain was so foggy.

For the most part, the codeine really knocked me out. There were no closed or open eye visuals, I just felt extremely relaxed, like if you were on morphine. The feeling carried on into sleep.

Alright! I had my first fully conscious salvia experience!

(I had one before this that sent me into different objects which I can't really remember, but this one I can)

So, I light up and take a hit. The 2 liter bottle fills with smoke in the mean-time. I hold it for as long as I can. Already I'm starting to feel a little bit dizzy. I inhale a second time, and hold for as long as I can. There's almost no smoke left in the bottle at this point. I exhale, and everything starts to tilt around me. I yell out for my friend who just left the room. As he comes in, I take inhale the remaining stuff, but can't even hold that in because I burst out laughing the moment he walks in. I go over to my bed, and lean against the wall, and just keep laughing - for no reason. It felt like I was in my dream body that I usually feel in sleep paralysis when attempting a WILD. I tried hard to close my eyes and get the visuals, but I just could not stop laughing. This went on for what seemed like 5 minutes to me when it was really only like 25 seconds. I leave the room for a second and it feels like I'm pushed, and I just start spinning like a tornado because it felt so right at the time. Anyway, someone slowed me down, and I layed back down. I was on the verge of having an out of body experience. I could feel myself being pulled upward, but it was like I was stuck because I was to distracted by everything going on around me. Even though I felt I could begin to move in another landscape, I was afraid that I might move my physical body in the process (this was a lucid experience) so I just laid there. My mouth felt like it was being pried open. The bed was slowing spinning. Then for some reason I got a visual that there was a a giant rotating wooden wheel, and that 3 people were pushing it. Then the stopped and began to pull on it and I began to feel like I was rotating the other way. After this dies down, I am astonished to be told only 4 minutes went by. I get up, and my body starts swinging to the music that's on. It is nice a relaxing. However - I was not controlling my movements. My body was swinging back and forth on its own! I stand there swinging around for like a minute, and just lay down. I feel great just laying there, so content, like nothing matters.

I feel like had no one been there and had it been quiet, I would have actually had a lucid "breakthrough" experience.

Will surely give this another go in like 2 weeks or so.

Was this normal salvia or the 5x / 10x / 20x extract?

10x

My gnome finally got around to doing acid. He waited until the holidays because doing it while school was on seemed lik a bad idea. Anyway, he sent me his report via the mail today. Hope you guys don't mind me posting it up.

Here's what he wrote in the letter:

I started by taking two tabs in my room at +0.00. The guy I got them from said that each tab was 100-150 micrograms. The tabs tasted slightly bitter/metallic as soon as they touched my tongue, but after they were wet they had no taste. I left them under my tongue for 30 minutes, then chewed up and swallowed. Apart from the utter excitement, around the +0.30, I started to get my first effects. Uncontrollable laughter and a general feeling of something happening, something changing. After about +1.00 I saw the first signs of visual distortion, the face on my digital clock is flat, but it looked like it was bubbling up and the numbers were morphing. I could look at my clock, then look at the wall, and still see the time on the wall. At this point I realised I’d finally got good tabs, and was pleased. (last holidays I bought bunk tabs)

I decided I go out to the kitchen and get a drink of water, and have a look at what was going on out there. As soon as I walked out of my room I realised how much of a bad idea that was. I felt extremey uncomfortale walking around, with everything feeling so foreign and knowing I might run into my parents at any minute didn't help either. I made it out to the kitchen and filled up a cup with water. I headed back and had to walk past my mums room who had her door open, she called out to me and and I jumped about 20 feet in the air and spilt my cup on the ground. My mum didn’t notice that I'd spil my cup or jumped, so I walked back over to her. She said 'you can have your pens there in my cupboard'. ‘Pens, what are pens’ I thought, not being able to think clerly caused me not to really understanding the concept of this word, I sort of looked at her confused and asked ‘Can I have them?’ she looked at me very strangely and said yes. I realised how dumb I was and immediately thought my mum knew that something was wrong with me. I walked into the cupboard, grabbed the pens, and as I picked them up I completely forgot how to act around my parents. The person who I really was just became so foreign, I had completely forgot who they were, let alone trying to act like them. I walked out and my mum was staring at me real weird, or so I thought, I quickly muttered, ‘I can’t sleep, im very tired, I’m gunna make tea’ then ran out. I got back to my room and thought for sure my mum knew I was on some sort of drug. I kept seeing her face in my mind, it looked as though she was analysing me, she knew something was up. Being around people who aren't tripping and even worse who you don't want to know that you are tripping is extremely weird. I felt so de-tatched and so far away from her, like on a completely different plain or level.

Now I had to go back out to the kitchen and make tea! Not cool, I was coming up really fast and getting more confused by the minute. I walked back out to the kitchen, boiled the kettle and as it came to a boil the sound slowed right down. I could hear every pop of each bubble, the sound of the bubbling and click when the kettle had finished was slowed down so much. The usual ‘click’ of the kettle button which takes around half a second to click, took what seemed like 2 or 3 seconds to finally stop. All while this was happening, everything was moving, sort of stretching and shifting, everything around me, which continued all night, the strange thing was, although I always thought hallucinations were going to be cool on acid, visal or audio, at this point all they did was confuse me more, I didn‘t find them cool. I didn’t experience any anxiety or fright, I just was confused, I was trying to piece together what was happening, while the acid was completely ripping away these pieces and any sense of logic. After the kettle boiled, I ran back to my room with a cup of water, completely forgetting I was supposed to make tea, luckily my mum didn’t see me on the way back. I got back to my room, and this is where things started getting really intense.

I think it was around +2.00 now and I got back to my room and jumped in bed. There were many times throughout this trip I had to coax myself out of a bad trip. It was a very mental trip, I had to face any fears or worries I had ever had with acid or anything else which arose. Luckily, instead of becoming impulsive and letting the paranoia feed, I had researched these worries and knew it would be OK. I was able to think bad thoughts through before indulging in them and bringing on a bad trip. The first fear which arose was when I realised if my parents came in I could not act sober. I would probably not understand a word they were saying, let alone be able to talk with them. It scared me, and I started to feel nauseous, then I realised, they have never came into my room during the night, why would they start now. I felt much better and turned my iPod on and started listening to music. I saw the album art on the screen changing colours, and becoming extremely 3D the longer I stared at it, it did this all night. It was a psytrance band, so the album was ‘trippy’, I understand why psychedelic art was invented in the 60s . I remember at one point my iPod and hand actually shrunk, the bottom half was the size of a matchbox and the top half growing out bigger than normal. The clicker wheel turned cheese yellow. Another time my iPod actually started to melt away in my hand and I could feel it melt. Now as I was lying in bed, I had no idea what was going on. I was losing touch with reality at light speed, yet the clock was moving so damn slow. I thought two tabs might have been too much, because at the rate I was watching myself go up compared to time was scary. After about 10 minutes of deep thought (it's very hard to focus on anything whilst on acid), I realised the come up on acid was about 2-3 hours long, so realised I probably had another hour of going up. At this point I completely lost all familiarity with myself and my surroundings. Everything became amazingly foreign. This was the most frightening and confusing part of my experience. It would have been around +2.30, and I kept forgetting where I was, who I was, falling into these deep mind traps then jumping out of them for a split second just to touch with reality one last time.

I stood up and didn’t know what to do. I felt like I was enjoying myself, but so confused as to what was going on I couldn’t make sense of anything. I realised how fucked up I was and being so unfamiliar with my real self, thought there was no way I could come back to myself or being sober. Reality and soberness just seemed so distant and far off, it scared me. Although the acid was telling me I was never going to be normal again, I knew deep down I would be back to myself again by normal, and just stopped thinking about it and enjoyed the experience, knowing that one simple thing was probably the most important aspect in warding off a bad trip this whole experience. Things kept happening in which the trip was so close to turning bad it wasn’t funny.

My dog started barking and yelping outside, I didn’t know what my dog was at first, I thought it was some alien creature come to get me, then slowly I realised I had a dog, and immediately thought it was a puppy theif (recently heard about them on the news), I thought someone was trying to steal her. As soon as I thought this the sounds morphed into grunts of a human and yelping of my dog. This was very hard to deal with as I love my dog very much, but I tried to convince myself it couldn't be real. I thought to myself if I was asleep, there is nothing I could do, with a head full of acid, there’s even less I can do. I wasn’t sure if the sound of my dog was real or fake, but I warded it off to deal with in the morning. The next thing I know I feel this incredibly uncomfortable urge, creep up on me. It hits me like a pile of bricks. I have no idea what this is. After analyzing the feeling for a while, my best guess is that the water I drank now has to be pissed out, so I stumble to the toilet.

I get outside my door and hear my sister talking. The words are all jumbled and fragmented, and IMPOSSIBLE to understand. They echo over each other and sound like complete gibberish. I had no idea whether she was talking in her sleep or talking to my mum. I think it’s OK to go the bathroom, but I don’t want my mum to think I’m still awake, as I already thought she suspected something, so I leave the bathroom light off. Bad idea. I get in there, close the door and the whole room is close to pitch black, I can only mae out outlines. The walls start to rise up around me and start dancing around in circles. I get very frightened and have no idea how I am supposed to get out of the bathroom. I put my hands out and walk and hit the shower. I know I am close to the door, and used the shower to guide me there and turn the light on. I walk over and try to piss, it takes about 5 seconds for anything to happen, but when it does happen, it feels like everything in my body just lurched out through my piss. Very strange feeling. I wash my hands and look in the mirror to see my face. I used to have mild acne, but it’s cleared up, so there’ still a few red scars/spots left, my face becomes covered in the red spots which turn into big red pimples and I grow hair all over my face. Normally I would think that was awesome, but I just thought it was confusing, not scary or fun, just weird. Another time, a little while after that I had to do another piss. The feeling was still very confusing to identify. The same thing again except this time when looking in the mirror I saw my skin not melt away but sort of become really tight on may face, so my head took the shape of a skull.

I really didn't understand what was going on. I manage to get back into my room and lye down. It is silent. I begin to hear this audio hallucination, it sounds like mechanic bubbles popping, the silence sort of bending back and forth. Any time in which there was silence throughout the rest of the night, I would hear this strange noise. I watched a movie on my iPod, and turned on an episode of ’heroes’. It's like there are frames missing as the film sort of skips a beat. The characters have a soft glow, sort of aura around them, which occasionly becomes stronger for a few seconds when they move. Watching it some parts completely scared the crap out of me, I saw a guy jump off a building, then guns and shooting and some guy all alone in the middle of the desert get stalked. Concentrating o the movi was impossible, so I sort of just stared at the screen while my mind jumped from one thought to the next. At one point, I became convinced I was going to lose control of my actions and kill myself. It was quite scary but I tried to stop think about it, and reasoned with myself to make sure I knew I would never kill myself, and felt a little better.

I tried to get up and draw, but as soon as I stood up I forgot what I was doing. It took me around 10 minutes to walk half a metre across my room as I' realise what I was trying to do for a slpit second, take a small step then foget again. I ended up getting to my desk, but was too fascinated with the construction of a chair, that I forgot about drawing. I finally ended up realizing I wanted to try and draw, and sat down, but I didn’t know what to draw. Any decision I had to make like choosing a song, episode, what to draw etc. took almost 10 minutes to decide. My mind was racing so fast, if I didn't pick straight away I'd forget about it for another 5 minutes. I picked up the pencil and drew a face, whenever I pressed the pencil on the paper I saw squiggles in the paper come all across the paper and I could see right in the texture of the paper. When there were a few things on the page, I sat back and looked at the paper and could see all the drawings move around the page. Took me about half an hour to try and draw anything as I’d get halfway through and forget what I was doing.

I gave up trying to draw and just sat on my bed, amazed at how unfamiliar my own self was and my surroundings. I remember at one point every time I looked at the clock, the time would be further back than last time I looked. I think knowing the time on acid is pointless as I never would understand what it meant. Then another time I was holding my iPod and the song sped up in fast forward, I heard it speed up then go back to normal and saw the blue bar speed across the screen. I hadn’t touched the iPod, so it wasn‘t me fast forwarding the song. There was a tarp outside, anytime the wind blew it, it would echo very strangely, it scared me at first, as I had no idea what it was, but I remembered the tarp and calmed down. The audio hallucination were amazing in retrospect. The way they echo and slow down is really cool. When I was tripping, I'd hear something echo or slow down, but my perceptions being so altered, I had no idea what it was.

Somehow I stumbled across almost controlling my audio hallucinations. I could think up words, say them in my head and hear them out loud as they would echo in my ears. I could think up any song I had recently listened to, and play it in my ears, without speakers or earphones or anything. Again though, being so confused it wasn’t special to me, just confusing as to why it was happening but still slightly interesting. By +4.00 or +5.00, my head started to clear up, and I began to surface back to reality. The first 4 hours of my trip were the most intense and confusing of my life, I had no idea about anything, almost like being reverted back to a baby or child and experiencing everything again.

Everything was so unbeleivably foreign, I had no idea whether a chair was as normal as a hallucination, and thought both were just as interesting. It’s very hard to explain. The best I can put it, is as being a baby, in a sense. As human beings, we think it awesome that a baby gets to have so many new experiences. Even the simplest of things like a chair or flashing toy can be of great interest to a baby. Yet take the baby to a theme park, although to us, a theme park is much more interesting than a chair, to the baby it is no different, just another new experience. The baby takes all the new experiences, and doesn’t question if they are normal or not. That is how I felt. The hallucinations were the same level of interest as a chair to me. Both new experiences, both very confusing, both equal in their intrigue. I always imagined the hallucinations would be fun to look at, because they’d be awesome sober, but when tripping they were just another added bit of confusion to my jumbled world.


Well after that intense 4 or 5 hours of my trip, my mind started to clear up, and I started to float back to reality again. It got to the point, where I felt, in my mind I was normal, I became familiar with my surroundings and somewhat more familiar with myself. I ended up spending the rest of the night watching the hallucinations at my computer screen, while trying to make sense of what had happened. After a while I got bored, and went to look in the mirror again. I felt very clear minded at this point, the only part of the acid trip left was the hallucinations, or so it felt. While I was sitting at the computer, the mechanic bubble sounds still played, when it rained heavily it sounded like a machine. The sound wasn’t all in one long sound, but it would rain, then stop and echo, then rain, then stop at echo, sounded like a washing machine in a massive cellar. I felt quite exhausted, mentally and physically, so headed back to my room. On the way I stared into the mirror and saw myself grow hair all over my face, and then morph into some giant ape like being. I fumbled around a bit more, till the hallucinations and almost completely ceased. It was around +7.00 or +8.00 when I went to bed. I drank some chamomile tea, and fell asleep, I remember I was still getting slight visuals as I fell asleep.

I Woke up feeling basically normal no hallucinations, no hangover no nothing, except a slight feeling of dis-attatchment with reality. It’s just confusing merging back into this life which was so foreign only a few hours ago. I’m still in utter confusement/astonishment over how powerful and intense this whole experience was. I am still slightly confused as to what happened, it‘s like I‘ve been hit by a ton of bricks. In my naivety, when the trip was at it’s most intense, I only had my room to explore as my parents didn’t fall asleep till late. Although I was really only exploring my mind, I would of liked a larger environment to experience other objects in such a perplexed state. Once my parents went to sleep, the intense phase had passed and I just sort of mellowed out. I was super confused and could of easily done something stupid, a trip sitter would have been preferred to help me out. But the powerfulness of LSD still amazes me, I was completely shocked and would have never expected what happened, to happen. Although I was prepared to accept anything, the intensity still overwhelmed me. I think if I am to do it again, I will make sure I have a much better environment and a sitter, but overall, the experience was not frightening, it was not bad either, it was not fun or exciting, but simply astonishing now and confusing at the time. All in all, it was quite rewarding in experiencing new perceptions.[/b]

My gnome said he has been very productive these last two days after his trip, cleaning his room, washing dishes etc. Been very happy. Once he had looked back on the tip a bit more, he has understood it more, and thinks it was an extremely enjoyable experience.

Originally Posted by anonymous

AAAAHHHHH!

There is so much misinformation in this thread.

First off, I would like to ask where are you guys getting this information? It is way off, and I can't tell if some of you are just making it up as you go or have actually read this somewhare.
Completly wrong. Where did you even read this?
Again completly wrong. Seriously, did you just make this up?
No.
Wrong, you couldn't be any farther off. LSD does not cause serotonin depletion, it increases the amoutn of serotonin in the brain.
E does the same as LSD, it increases serotonin. It most certainly does not deplete it.
Wrong, at least partially. You are correct that serotonin depletion can cause depression. But XTC increases serotonin not decreases.
That would be a waste of acid. LSD has a relativly high tolerance which decreases dramtically after about a week. In order to do it every day, and still get the effects he would at least have to double the dose each time. Very unlikely.
Wow, just wow. [/b]

Just a guess...the drug unnaturally increases the seratonin so you have depletion because your body hadnt naturally been creating it. so if you increase it with a drug, after you stop taking it you'll have less than you started because you're body is used to being fed the chemicals for reuptaking them...- not actually producing it on its own naturally just being triggered to produce it so then you stop taking them, and you have less than before because your neurotransmitters are used to just taking the drug, instead of making the seratonin on their own???

You are right sky, although LSD does nothing of the sort, only ecstasy.

It's impossible to dose LSD everyday. But anonymous coward, you have got some of your facts wrong, or at least your hiding the important part, although LSD is proven to not harm the brain whatsoever, MDMA CERTAINLY is! Yes you are right, MDMA does increase serotonin and dopamine levels, it literally floods the brain with dopamine and serotonin while you are high, but why do you feel so mentally drained the days after? Because when you come down, your serotonin and dopamine are DEPLETED for the next few days. Why do you think people who go on Ecstasy binges become so depressed, because the more they do it, the less dopamine/serotonin they have afterwards. Say you do ecstasy once every few months, that is OK as within a week or two your dopamine/serotoin lvels are back to normal. It's when you start doing it every fortnight or more you have trouble.

Originally Posted by long

You are right sky, although LSD does nothing of the sort, only ecstasy.

It's impossible to dose LSD everyday. But anonymous coward, you have got some of your facts wrong, or at least your hiding the important part, although LSD is proven to not harm the brain whatsoever, MDMA CERTAINLY is! Yes you are right, MDMA does increase serotonin and dopamine levels, it literally floods the brain with dopamine and serotonin while you are high, but why do you feel so mentally drained the days after? Because when you come down, your serotonin and dopamine are DEPLETED for the next few days. Why do you think people who go on Ecstasy binges become so depressed, because the more they do it, the less dopamine/serotonin they have afterwards. Say you do ecstasy once every few months, that is OK as within a week or two your dopamine/serotoin lvels are back to normal. It's when you start doing it every fortnight or more you have trouble.[/b]

I am not a medical doctor, but what I do know first hand is that both LSD and MDMA leave me with a depression after a single experience, and it is a depression that cannot be explained in purely psychological terms. There is absolutely nothing to be depressed about, and I can't come up with anything, but I feel overwhelming depression. I am talking about the type of depression that makes me feel suicidal and where I have trouble talking and find it almost impossible to smile or laugh. The drug that pulls me out of the depression in a miracle flash happens to be one that works by increasing serotonin levels-- Prozac. In a very short time, the depression is completely gone and I feel alive and happy again. LSD also leaves me confused and loopy for a few days and even weeks. That much I do know.

But that doesn't mean I don't love the shit.

Please keep in ming that the discussion of drugs is only going to be tolerated in their relationship to dreaming/lucid dreaming. Please take your trip reports to erowid. Or keep them in PMs. Thanks. And don't make me repeat myself....again.

Originally Posted by Universal

I am not a medical doctor, but what I do know first hand is that both LSD and MDMA leave me with a depression after a single experience, and it is a depression that cannot be explained in purely psychological terms. There is absolutely nothing to be depressed about, and I can't come up with anything, but I feel overwhelming depression. I am talking about the type of depression that makes me feel suicidal and where I have trouble talking and find it almost impossible to smile or laugh. The drug that pulls me out of the depression in a miracle flash happens to be one that works by increasing serotonin levels-- Prozac. In a very short time, the depression is completely gone and I feel alive and happy again. LSD also leaves me confused and loopy for a few days and even weeks. That much I do know.

But that doesn't mean I don't love the shit. [/b]

Sorry if I am violating rules, I can't let people go uninformed. They have done studies on heavy users of both LSD and MDMA. The heavy MDMA users suffer severe depression when they are not on the drug, along with short-term memory loss and concentration skills. The MDMA is actually proven to reduce dopamine and serotoini levels. LSD on the other hand, depression is caused by the experience, not by what the drug does to the brain. I remember reading some of Tim Leary's works, he said the way you feel the next day (depressed/glowing) is determined by the experience. Studies showed that Heavy users had nothing wrong with them apart from unique mystical beleifs. If you want I am sure I could find the artcle for you. And umm, depression gives you bad dreams, so you needed to know that so you culd have good dreams.

Originally Posted by long

... Studies showed that Heavy users had nothing wrong with them apart from unique mystical beleifs.[/b]

So that's where I got those...

Originally Posted by long

If you want I am sure I could find the artcle for you.[/b]

Yes please.

Originally Posted by hellopotato

has anyone here tried damiana?

its a mexican herb that produces a marijuana like high along with euphoria and a sense of "The world being beautiful."

..its legal everywhere.[/b]

Shhhh, don't let this get out too much.If ppl start trying it out then the government is gonna start wondering about it and investigating it and try to ban it...just like some other thing I will not mention here. They don't want any of us to have too much fun you know!

I posted this in a different thread but I think it will be appreciated more here.

Nothing special just neat.



Oh, and I think Damiana is whack!

Originally Posted by eightyape;

whatalottatoss.(where you find it? in a wicca book? ooooooooooooo sigils pmsl.classic.[/b]

No. I found it in the highly regarded Pharmako/Poeia by Dale Pendell, actually.

Oh, when I say highly regarded by the way, I mean by such people as Terence McKenna and Doctor Alexander T. Shulgin.

I don't believe it is supposed to explain everything. Dale Pendell is a poet; it is art.

If it helps you to grasp this concept, here are the meanings of the outside words:

Phantastica - visionary plants;
Excitantia - provokers and agitators;
Euphorica - plants bearing pleasure;
Inebriantia - relating to drunkenness;
Thanatopathia - tasting of death.

lmaozomgpwned!!!!!1111oneoneon e?

Well, hmmm.... I'm not sure what to say that this point... Maybe I didn't really have overwhelming impulses to end my existence for eternity? Yeah, no worries. Just get as wacked out as you please because it's all just clean hippy fun with no side effects. Yes, I am drunk as fuck right now, so go figure, uh, whatever... Yeah!

Originally Posted by Jess

Yes please. [/b]

http://erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_journal3.shtml

Hey, any comments on this Damiana herb? I read up on it and it's spose to be some sort of aphrodesiac. It also said it relieves stress and causes euphoria. Would it be worth it? Anyone know?

Originally Posted by long

Sorry if I am violating rules, I can't let people go uninformed. They have done studies on heavy users of both LSD and MDMA. The heavy MDMA users suffer severe depression when they are not on the drug, along with short-term memory loss and concentration skills. The MDMA is actually proven to reduce dopamine and serotoini levels. LSD on the other hand, depression is caused by the experience, not by what the drug does to the brain. I remember reading some of Tim Leary's works, he said the way you feel the next day (depressed/glowing) is determined by the experience. Studies showed that Heavy users had nothing wrong with them apart from unique mystical beleifs. If you want I am sure I could find the artcle for you. And umm, depression gives you bad dreams, so you needed to know that so you culd have good dreams. [/b]

Now I am not drunk, and my internet is back up, so I will give a real comment on that. Don't ever put too much stock into what "they" say. You can find lots of theys on all sides of any issue. I have never had a bad experience on LSD. They have all been some of the most fun experiences of my life. But in the aftermath, I have had depression and loopiness, and one monster depression. Prozac, which works by increasing serotonin levels, completely annihilated those after effects. That has been the case with many others.

Not a "substance" per se, but...

try ending your next hot shower with a 100-count of ice cold water. You won't want to do it, but just take control for one second, jam the tap to freezing cold, and brace for impact. Then just count, and jump around and scream like a schoolgirl. The first few times I tried this, I ended up in a heap on the bathtub floor laughing my ass off, it's definitely an interesting euphoric. It doesn't make me giggle like a madman anymore (I do it every day) but it does always leave me feeling... calm, rejuvenated, primed, maybe.

This thread is like a direct current into the Occult.

It's very interesting.

Tomeeka- I have heard some people say it works wonders as both an aphrodisiac and a euphoriant, but others say it hasn't done much for them. What I HAVE heard is that it is great when mixed with other herbs (such as Wild Dagga), making a Dagga high much longer while also enhancing the effects.

would it be safe to drink extracts like vanilla or something cause they have like 90% alcohol

I may or may not have killed this never ending thread