Thread: Bending Time And Space

Aye, time is perception. That's exactly why it's not to be changed. "Perception" means an external source of information.

Time is a measure of action. Thus, you can "use" time to describe how long something took but since time isn't an object of any sort at all, it can't be literally "used", only figuratively.

To bend time in any way for your own perception you would need to alter your own actions. As in, if you start moving faster than everything else, time will seem to slow down. For you everything will seem slowed but for everyone else you will be incredibly swift.

In my opinion, we already do a lot of time bending. We've all had those experiences where we were having a good time and time seemed to "fly by" and we've also all had those experiences were time seemed to stop and minutes felt like hours and hours felt like days.

When you enter a state of "flow", time actually slows down. It often happens to sports player when they are completely concentrated of the moment and they are able to see things happen slower which allows them to achieve moves that would otherwise be impossible. It aslo happens when your life is in danger which if you react quickly enough can save your life. I personally have had it happen when I was driving on the highway and a car that was driving a little ahead of me lost control. Everything in my field of vision slowed down like I had pressed the slow-mo button on the VCR and I was able to swerve out of harms way. It's aslo hapenned that I was unable to avoid it, but it was a less serious situation.

My theroy on this occurence is such that the eyes act much like a camera in which they supply to the brain a certain number of images per second. In regular activities, the brain (which act much like a computer) is multi-tasking many thing and only allows the eyes a certain amount of processing power. When in the state I call flow, the brain allocates much more processing power to vision which increases the amount of images per second that is registered. Much like a high speed camera is used to film extremely fast thing and then slow it down, your brain, receiving many more pictures per sec., is capable of "seeing things in slow-mo".

This is only my theory and I have no actual scientific data to support it except for my personal experiences but I think it makes a lot of sense.

When you enter a state of "flow", time actually slows down. It often happens to sports player when they are completely concentrated of the moment and they are able to see things happen slower which allows them to achieve moves that would otherwise be impossible. [/b]

Nah... That effect is just caused by their memory of the event. There is no actual slowing of time.

.... and btw, anyone that hasn't read the theory of relativity, should before giving theories of time travel.

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Well, you are absolutely correct that you can alter your perceptions of space and time. The only problem is that your perception (usually) doesn't carry back into reality, and then everyone else calls it a hallucination.

I've heard of people having long lucid dreams (a few days, a few weeks, then there's Robert Monroe and his 100 years...). If you can manipulate time while dreaming I see no reason why you can't speed up your brain like that in waking life.

Originally Posted by Drk

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Well, you are absolutely correct that you can alter your perceptions of space and time. The only problem is that your perception (usually) doesn't carry back into reality, and then everyone else calls it a hallucination.

I've heard of people having long lucid dreams (a few days, a few weeks, then there's Robert Monroe and his 100 years...). If you can manipulate time while dreaming I see no reason why you can't speed up your brain like that in waking life.
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I believe the key word here is "your" you can alter your own perceptions, but you can't alter the perceptions of others, because you're not them. In dreams however, time is irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Drk

I've heard of people having long lucid dreams (a few days, a few weeks, then there's Robert Monroe and his 100 years...). If you can manipulate time while dreaming I see no reason why you can't speed up your brain like that in waking life.
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Time isn't manipulated while dreaming. Dreams are conceptual thought. They don't happen physically like actions in the waking state. Conceptual thought. Conceptual thought. And, once more, conceptual thought.
Hmm, I really should have made that thread about it some time ago...but anyway.

Please explain what you mean by "altering perception". How can perception, the detecting of something with senses, be altered if it isn't dependant on one's own will but purely on outside effects and their cognition?

Originally Posted by Merlock

Time isn't manipulated while dreaming. Dreams are conceptual thought. They don't happen physically like actions in the waking state. Conceptual thought. Conceptual thought. And, once more, conceptual thought.
Hmm, I really should have made that thread about it some time ago...but anyway.

Please explain what you mean by "altering perception". How can perception, the detecting of something with senses, be altered if it isn't dependent on one's own will but purely on outside effects and their cognition?
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I think perception is both the sensory input and how your brain processes it. So you could alter your perception by changing the way your brain treats the messages from your senses.

I think that if you slowed time, you would have to become stupid or something to balance, unless you haven't been using your brains full potential (which i would venture to suggest that most of us don't, even if it isn't on the order of 10%).

Hmm, good point. Though aye, what I said in my first post stands, it seems. If you were to alter your perception of time, you would be able to act faster (well, slower too but for the sake of imagination, I'll take speeding up).
To do that you would need to perceive events with more detail giving you the ability to act upon them faster than others. So, in the end, you would be moving faster while others were moving at normal speed - them seeming slow to you, you seeming fast to them. Perception!

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/inde...howtopic=41328

this is a short thread about someone's theory on mental time travel (or using your mind to shift your consciousness to the future or past)

anyway, it just goes along with this topic .

Originally Posted by Merlock

Hmm, good point. Though aye, what I said in my first post stands, it seems. If you were to alter your perception of time, you would be able to act faster (well, slower too but for the sake of imagination, I'll take speeding up).
To do that you would need to perceive events with more detail giving you the ability to act upon them faster than others. So, in the end, you would be moving faster while others were moving at normal speed - them seeming slow to you, you seeming fast to them. Perception![/b]

That wouldn't change your ability to think or act. It would only change how you were using that ability. So, if you used perception to speed yourself up, it might seem to you like everything else was in slow motion, but others would see you going far too fast and doing a shoddy job. You would probably find yourself tiring faster in proportion to your perception change as well (others would see you moving at high speed and predictably tiring), at least until you got used to it and were in shape for moving at high speed.

Compare it to distorting your computer's perception of time - your computer would expect things to happen much faster, but it wouldn't actually run faster unless it was holding out on you for some reason before.