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      Magnetic Stimulation of the Pineal Gland

      Here's a little article I found on www.Keelynet.com Sounds simple enough to try, but I don't have any decent magnets laying around. Anyone else want to give it a try?

      The Florida Connection - Mental Shifts

      NOTE: This was from a conversation I had several years ago, so the details might be a bit fuzzy....>>> Jerry

      Walter Rawls, who worked with the effects of monopolar magnetic fields on matter with the late Albert Roy Davis, told me in a telephone conversation of his experiments with a North pole magnet situated over the pineal gland.
      A mask was made which held the North pole end of a long cylindrical magnet over the pineal gland. The purpose was to stimulate the gland and see if there was anything to this 'third eye' business. Exposure was in the range of 10-30 minutes per day over a period of about 4 weeks.

      Within the first week, he was sitting at his desk reading documents when he noticed something move out of the corner of his eye. As he looked up, the ghostly figure of a man had walked through one wall, moved across the room and disappeared through another wall. The figure was totally unaware of Walter. Further exposures to this North pole field took place over a second and third week.

      The second week, the same ghostly figure moved through the room and glanced toward Walter as he passed through. This time, the figure appeared to have slightly more detail, not quite so ghostly.

      The third week, busy working on documents, Walter noticed a change in the room. When he looked up, the wall had dissolved away and he was looking at a small hill where a man and woman sat beneath a tree. It was the same ghostly male figure who he'd seen on the other occasions. He sat quite still, watching this pastoral scene for several minutes.
      The man looked over toward Walter and appeared startled. It was as if he clearly SAW Walter this time and possibly recognized Walter as the ghost he had seen the previous week! The image faded away and the wall restored to its normal condition. From that moment on, Walter never used the pineal stimulator again.

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      interesting not for sure what to really say or respond with, but makes you wonder if a time shift happen. What if the other person saw the man as the ghost when the man saw the other person as the ghost so is reality as stable as we think or does that reality record events?

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      Smile interesting

      might have to start looking for a pineal stimulatormy self,interesting post

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      The pineal, pituitary, and hypothalamus glands all work together. So if the magnet did cause stimulation, what did it actually stimulate? Perhaps it was working on only the frontal lobe and not effecting any glands? There are so many variables to consider. For example how was his mental health, did Mr. Rawls have a cavernous angioma, what about nutrition. Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, but magnets do interesting things to current flow and our nervous systems are touchy as it is. Check this out before considering playing with magnets-
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect

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      The planet Earth exhibits all of these properties and therefore can be considered alive and its own single organism by the scientific definition.
      7. Reproduction: The ability to produce new organisms.
      does the planet Earth reproduce, well no unless you count the moon.

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      Doesn't the pineal gland secrete a chemical that is very close in nature to DMT, the hallucinogen? Or am I thinking of something completely different?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      Doesn't the pineal gland secrete a chemical that is very close in nature to DMT, the hallucinogen?
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      no you're right,thats the stuff

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      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      Doesn't the pineal gland secrete a chemical that is very close in nature to DMT, the hallucinogen? Or am I thinking of something completely different?
      It releases what literally IS the hallucinogen DMT. DMT is a neurotransmitter involved in dreaming, near death experiences, "out of body" experiences, and even "alien abductions". It also can be found in plants and taken externally. It is the most heavy duty hallucinogen there is.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      It releases what literally IS the hallucinogen DMT. DMT is a neurotransmitter involved in dreaming, near death experiences, "out of body" experiences, and even "alien abductions". It also can be found in plants and taken externally. It is the most heavy duty hallucinogen there is.
      Debatable. Alien abductions maybe...who are we to say they didn't get abducted by aliens if we were not there? dreaming, sure. It's a fact dmt is there for dreams. Also when your in the dessert all hot and in need of water and you see stuff like water just down a mile away. Stupid brain trixing us. >: ( WHAT WE EVER DO TO YOU????

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      I wish there was something you can eat, or a button to press, that would release all all DMT in the pineal gland. And let you trip your ass off.

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      Quote Originally Posted by moe007 View Post
      I wish there was something you can eat, or a button to press, that would release all all DMT in the pineal gland. And let you trip your ass off.


      Could your body even handle it? smoking DMT is beyond words and you cannot be weak, or heart problems or anything i hear.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      Could your body even handle it? smoking DMT is beyond words and you cannot be weak, or heart problems or anything i hear.
      If that was a question directed at me, yes I can handle it .

      I might not be a proficient lucid dreamer, but I am very mentally stable and can endure even the most breaking circumstances, and still come out # 1

      I would love to try DMT, I never have before. I heard it IS beyond words, and would love to see how that is. I accidentally ate about a 6 gram piece of the best and most potent hashish available (middle eastern-african mix), and had the most intense marijuana high possibly achieved. I think I started to hallucinate at one point, and could move objects by thought, only in my head though.

      I would love to try DMT, and see what the results would be.


      EDIT: Oh and I am at tip top physical condition , about the heart problem thing you mentioned.
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      the first time i went into dmt space was with acacia someone "brought" back from australia.
      we mixed it with 20x salvia....needless to say....well, I guess that somes it-"needless to say"

      Since then I've journeyed many times, dmt, ayauasca, peyote, and all the wonders the forests of the pacific northwest has to offer---and all of this has led me to here seeking the wonders of the lucid dream. Of the few that i've had they were far more profound than any ingested substance.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jahnauasca View Post
      the first time i went into dmt space was with acacia someone "brought" back from australia.
      we mixed it with 20x salvia....needless to say....well, I guess that somes it-"needless to say"

      Since then I've journeyed many times, dmt, ayauasca, peyote, and all the wonders the forests of the pacific northwest has to offer---and all of this has led me to here seeking the wonders of the lucid dream. Of the few that i've had they were far more profound than any ingested substance.
      Hmm do you think it is possible to extract dmt from pineal gland of a animal?

      If you could get large amounts of this stuff, that would be amazing.

      I really want to try this. Imagine smoking it and trying to sleep, and getting a LD off of the half life of DMT.
      man that would fuckyou up
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      Seriously, as they say RESEARCH DMT and the expieriences for a month or longer before you attempt this stuff, it's not something to try because it sounds cool. I've never done it but i know alot about it, and trust me, you will never in your life expierience something remotly close to DMT, nothing ever prepares you for it, nothing. People take this thinking they can handle it, but once you experience it you get blown away more then everything in your life combined together times 100. This is not no normal drug, it's beyond words, beyond understanding, beyond anything we will ever know. RESEARCH this for a month or longer before you attempt to do this. It can mess you up mentally for a long long time.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      Seriously, as they say RESEARCH DMT and the expieriences for a month or longer before you attempt this stuff, it's not something to try because it sounds cool. I've never done it but i know alot about it, and trust me, you will never in your life expierience something remotly close to DMT, nothing ever prepares you for it, nothing. People take this thinking they can handle it, but once you experience it you get blown away more then everything in your life combined together times 100. This is not no normal drug, it's beyond words, beyond understanding, beyond anything we will ever know. RESEARCH this for a month or longer before you attempt to do this. It can mess you up mentally for a long long time.

      Ive been researching for more than a month. Ive read many experiences about it, and read alot of chemistry of what happens to the brain etc.

      I know its amazing and beyond words, but what puzzles me is that, why does the brain only use it two times in a lifetime? At birth, while a developing fetus, and at the time of death?

      weird.
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      It's funny how the conversations change in here. Anyway, I read the thing about the Hall effect and I wonder what effect magnets will have on the chakras, I think they could be used to an advantage if one looked into the application of them, almost like a healer uses crystals...
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      Quote Originally Posted by moe007 View Post
      Ive been researching for more than a month. Ive read many experiences about it, and read alot of chemistry of what happens to the brain etc.

      I know its amazing and beyond words, but what puzzles me is that, why does the brain only use it two times in a lifetime? At birth, while a developing fetus, and at the time of death?

      weird.
      Actually it pumps out every night when you're dreaming, no?

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      Actually it pumps out every night when you're dreaming, no?
      Not into effect, it is PRODUCED, but not effecting you besides two times in your lifetime, as a fetus, and time of death.
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      Weird, the opposite of what i've read. Heard it pumps through you every night when you are dreaming.

      edit- Here is 1 of the places i read about it, but mostly DMT websites

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
      Last edited by LucidFlanders; 01-28-2008 at 07:22 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      Weird, the opposite of what i've read. Heard it pumps through you every night when you are dreaming.
      Its pumped out by the pineal gland, but stored. Not released into your brain/body. Like i said before, the ONLY time it is secreted is death and fetus development.

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      The pineal gland is unique in that it sits alone in the brain whose other parts are paired. It is the first gland to be formed in the foetus and is distinguishable at 3 weeks. When our individual life force enters our foetal body at 7 weeks, the moment in which we become truly human, it passes through the pineal and triggers the first primordial flood of DMT ( N-dimethyltryptamine). Later, at birth, the pineal releases more DMT. DMT is also capable of mediating pivotal experiences of deep meditation, shamanic states of consciousness, psychoses, spiritual emergence and near death experiences.
      Quote Originally Posted by Source
      When we experience a shamanic journey our pulse rate increases at the same time that our blood pressure drops. This is also what happens as the body is preparing to die. As the life-force leaves our body through the pineal gland, another flood of DMT is released. I believe that the initial stages of a shamanic journey replicate this near death experience and so triggers DMT release in the brain.
      Source used above : http://www.bridgeofstars.co.uk/pineal-gland.htm

      Ive read this many other places as well.

      EDIT: Joe regan in his video fails to say that while it is being pumped out, it is being stored and not used.
      Last edited by moe007; 01-28-2008 at 07:27 AM.
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      He says the opposite, it's being used every night when we sleep.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      He says the opposite, it's being used every night when we sleep.
      Hes a comedian trying to market the drug in a funny way

      Not a researcher, scientist or doctor.
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      Guess that rules us out.

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