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      lex16 left my name out on insulting I feel unloved. I need a hug

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lex16
      Cusp: Dude you are seriously looking for shit!

      Someone asked for stories?
      Ask Sanz how I started. She knows all.
      Yes, yes I am. Where can I find that old bag who supposedly leads the night stalkers? I want a title shot!

      Well how about it Sanz? You going to vouch for this guy? Tell us his secret origin story.

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      So you guys are saying that you fight these dream stalkers while being lucid??
      I think its kinda funny that you know your dreaming yet you still believe that DCs are actual lucid dreamers invading your dreams. It would be very very cool to communicate with other oneironauts in the dream world but i think if it were possible scientists would do some research...I've yet to see any proof, sorry to rain on your parade but this looks like a bunch of kids playing make believe.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dunchfastmo View Post
      So you guys are saying that you fight these dream stalkers while being lucid??
      I think its kinda funny that you know your dreaming yet you still believe that DCs are actual lucid dreamers invading your dreams. It would be very very cool to communicate with other oneironauts in the dream world but i think if it were possible scientists would do some research...I've yet to see any proof, sorry to rain on your parade but this looks like a bunch of kids playing make believe.
      You do know that the government had it's own experimental program with remote viewing don't you? They actually trained people in the developement of that program.

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      Quote Originally Posted by AHiddenSaint View Post
      You do know that the government had it's own experimental program with remote viewing don't you? They actually trained people in the developement of that program.
      Yes, they had such a program and wasted millions in taxpayers money, only to abandon it later. Here's more on that: http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mpsychicfed.html
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      Quote Originally Posted by skysaw View Post
      Yes, they had such a program and wasted millions in taxpayers money, only to abandon it later. Here's more on that: http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mpsychicfed.html

      Well you know what?

      I totally believe it as Im sure I work at night for them. I think that the "psychic" people working for investigation is just another debate tho, however in the dreams they do come to you with orders and tasks and they do give you in change somekind of a paycheck or retribution.

      Once they allowed me to talk with my girlfriend during one night while she was in another country. I woke up that morning and felt so tired as if I chatted the whole night instead of sleeping and I clearly remember the whole conversation that made a lot of sense.

      Point is my own theory of those contact are made by radio frequencies that our body can capt and send. Lower the frequency is further it goes. Now think about this ... cellphones use radio frequencies and with a cellphone now you can send a picture or a video. Well same for our brain, I really think I can send you an impression or an image. After all thats why we invented drawing and vocabulary as humans, to communicate our emotions and impressions to others.

      But in a dream no need of big descriptions and imagery, for instance I could have explained everything with just some pulses by making you connect to my mind right?

      So thats how they do it. They find what I call your "lock code" (by the matrix (see echelon) and once they chose with you they put you on a main frequence that they use, where they can connect to you at anytime. Its like when you connect to a server by using an IP adress and you know it's MAC adress. You can then access all the data and remotely control it or get all the info you want from it.

      As for the night stalkers and dream walkers, I think I met some lurkers but usually their just "spectators".

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      I can also say that a year ago one of the "leaders" of that "intelligence program" died at a old age, and his replacement is a dude around 45-5 years that is much less sympatecthic and that I challenge his orders numerous times because he's just a prick.

      PS: Watch out as they will also use faces and people that you know to first get your trust without scaring you. How to know it's them and not the real person you know that you meet in the dream? Simple, the person will look exactly like on a recent picture you have and won't have the same personality. Usually when you dream about someone close from you, like a family member, he doesnt necessarely look exactly as that person looks at the present time. There is differences because your brain process that picture with feelings. So you could dream at your dad on how he looks like 10 years ago and not on how he looks on the latest picture you took from him a day before.


      So use your judgement all the time, be smart, be lucid...

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      Interesting dream last night. I was trying to for some reason in my dream help a spirit or ghost of a person pass on. I doubt it is anything other then a dream, but I thought would post and see. For some reason even though I used the defenses I normally use they weren't working and the spirit was actually stronger then me. I don't know how but other people were summoned that I didn't know their faces or who they were yet my dream self seemed to know. It was almost as if it was natural to work together in order to help the spirit move forward. The dream also ended after the task was finished.

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      Quote Originally Posted by AHiddenSaint View Post
      Interesting dream last night. I was trying to for some reason in my dream help a spirit or ghost of a person pass on. I doubt it is anything other then a dream, but I thought would post and see. For some reason even though I used the defenses I normally use they weren't working and the spirit was actually stronger then me. I don't know how but other people were summoned that I didn't know their faces or who they were yet my dream self seemed to know. It was almost as if it was natural to work together in order to help the spirit move forward. The dream also ended after the task was finished.
      Try to remember the details such as "pass on what exactly?" The people you did not know the faces, what where your feelings out of it ? If you had to take a wild guess on what role they had, for who they works, what would that guess say?

      There are times in our lives when we must make choices based more on instinct than intellect. Often, the soul recognizes its choices before the rational mind has time to process the information. So trust your instinc and tell me more.

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      Remembering details from a dream isn't a problem for me. Basically with me I've had different dreams related to spirits or other people who have passed on. In most cases these are violent spirits that try to cause harm to my dreamself.

      There seemed to be a little girl related to the old lady. At first it was a male figure that was coming through as what caused the death, but the older lady which could have been a element from both seemed to control what happen in the room. It was that spirit that had trouble with and wanted to violently harm me.

      Because I'm used to this type of stuff happening my dreams have developed into what I call the God Defense. My dream character is able to view themself as a God which in most cases takes control of what is going on. There are outside elements that still take into effect so it's not total control, but my dream self does become more powerful because of it.

      The others that were summoned couldn't tell you great detail about there faces because it was more then 5 at least. I want to say 12, but that seems to man at this point. I would say somewhere between 5 to 10. The thing though is I didn't do anything really to summon them within the dream it was almost as if it happen without calling upon, but instead because knew I couldn't handle this one alone even with my God dream defense state up.

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      If I would let my subconscious speak I would tell you that this old lady also gave me trouble last night.

      Actually thats how I ended up on these forums.

      I was on a mission when I got undercovered by 2 girls. Because of 2 words that I clearly remember "Yvette, Duette". I was somewhere around Prague downtown (or another east European metropole). And when I got undercover I started to chase the 2 girls but some hobos came to me and started to threat me. So while they were blocking my way the 2 girls were able to get away, and then all of a sudden a Police SWAT team of around 40 men or more came out from one street, they blitzed in the crowd and jumped on me.

      They then brought me back in some parking lot where they threw me on the floor and started to kick me hard, like 5 big guys with huge boots hitting my skull and crushing my bones. I knew it was just a dream but still I felt pain, shame, as if it would happen for real.

      I did not know what was going on as I thought the SWAT team would be on my side, so I was confused, as if my team let me down. Then I discovered that a old lady order it, and the 2 girls where working for that old lady.

      I hope it's not the same old lady, that would be weird. But I can't relate any old lady in my surroundings that matches her. First time I heard of such a powerfull character.

      A little thing that makes me proud is that she had to intervene strongly and in front of everyone downtow a huge city at day time with 40 SWAT trained people to mobilise me while the 2 girls could get away. And the fact that I got caught by surprise and everything happened so fast made it impossible for me to do any counter attack...

      Tonight, after my little trip to the liberty of statue, Im looking forward to refind some traces of that dark and powerfull organisation.

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      I do remember two girls being in the dream. They didn't seem related at the moment. They seemed to be a sidenote as I wondered around the other part of the house deal.

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      Will you really pay me 1000 dollars to get into your dream.
      How about this give me your name, credit card number, Address, phone number, and Social security, and I will go into your dream and make you lucid. For the small fee of $1000 plus all that info...mwahahahahahahahahhahhaaha mwahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaa

      just kidding...but for all you that are dream walkers and night stalkers, don't mess with me unless you want to intentionally get me lucid. Then I would thank you graciously
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tomdub View Post
      Will you really pay me 1000 dollars to get into your dream.
      How about this give me your name, credit card number, Address, phone number, and Social security, and I will go into your dream and make you lucid. For the small fee of $1000 plus all that info...mwahahahahahahahahhahhaaha mwahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaa

      just kidding...but for all you that are dream walkers and night stalkers, don't mess with me unless you want to intentionally get me lucid. Then I would thank you graciously
      I was going to say something stupid here but the more I thought about the worst it sounded so I just thought I'd say Good night

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      Yes, yes I am. Where can I find that old bag who supposedly leads the night stalkers? I want a title shot!

      Well how about it Sanz? You going to vouch for this guy? Tell us his secret origin story.
      Firstly, for the record, Lex is a she secondly, which story you wanna hear? I got plenty...

      Quote Originally Posted by Dunchfastmo View Post
      I've yet to see any proof, sorry to rain on your parade but this looks like a bunch of kids playing make believe.
      No worries ^_^ To each his own. You aint gotta beleive us, the thread is more to see if anyone else ahs had experience with these people, not to try and convince people they exist!

      @delpiero: Thank you for the validation friend ^_^ Maybe I'll see you around the Dream World some time.

      @AHiddenSaint: I'll try to get Lex to calm down, don't worry

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tomdub View Post
      Will you really pay me 1000 dollars to get into your dream.
      Yes.

      How about this give me your name, credit card number, Address, phone number, and Social security, and I will go into your dream and make you lucid. For the small fee of $1000 plus all that info...mwahahahahahahahahhahhaaha mwahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaa
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      Any reason they come into our dreams - is the Astral Plane not big enough or something?

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      Sanzora, it is just better not to react. I honestly still do not know if the subject is real or not real on Dreamwalkers and Nightstalkers. I just do know to many strange things have happen to me that I'm open minded yet still don't claim anything as proof. In this field of dreaming nothing we really can do could be shown as proof unless it effects someone physically.

      If I am invovled in it without knowing or someone has attacked me without my realizing it I do not know because my dreams are random. As strong as people fill I maybe I'm still as weak as the next person because there is a lot I do not understand. I do find the subject interesting and if I have gone overboard with posting a few dreams to see if it is related I'm sorry.

      BTW I respect those who believe in something different even though it can't be proven. It's important enough to them and I think it deserves the proper respect just as any subject would here. I am sorry that some have treated it as laughable. I do think you have others who are truly interested in the subject, but just do not understand enough about it and want to understand more.

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      me it really is the "Old Lady" part that caught my attention. She's obviously a power figure, and I never heard of a Old Lady before.

      As for my dream with the SWAT it's actually in Germany where the German police stopped a US secret operation during the G8 protest.

      Protestants are the hobos I saw and the 2 girls. SWAT team was the German police, so now is to know why behind the protestant there is that old lady. And why the German Police is related to her as well...

      Or it could also be that in the protestant German Police had infiltrators...

      Mind you , dream stalker might exist, but their probably just rebel and random org that just fool around.

      You have to see all this in a much higher scale, there is a war going on and power strugle going on in dreamland to capitalize on reality. If you can use dreams to view in distance and to connect to people then some serious org are using it for some serious stuff... and not throwing lil whatever balls you call taken from RPG games

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing

      So its impossible that a dream stalker try to interfere when Im on a mission.

      However when Im on break I coulkd have met a couple.

      Actually to be VERY HONEST, I remember once going in somekind of little kingdom where it was all dreamers there, a little like on this forums, like a community of lucid dreamers but this was in a lucid dream.

      And I knew my job was to take over the place by challenging in a duel the supposely master of the place (king or prince).

      So we were in a crowd everyone was wearing black capes like "rogues" and then some dude arrived with long dark hairs and some little tattoos and everyone got excited seeing him. So as I was undercover I didnt hesitated and went to meet him, I could feel that he was scared as hell realising he had to deal with me, he started to fly up as an hurrican was raising under him, I caught him by going up faster and threw him back to the ground.

      The fight did not last long he got crushed and I took over that little kingdom. hehehe I can tell you that when I woke up it felt pretty good. But I knew this was for me just an amusement. Not work. So for me that's what those anarchist and rebels organisation are. You can be sure that Authorities out there eat them alive and make sure they never cross them in their mission, and if one is discovered sneaking in he will be hunted down...

      Like those 2 girls... We will find them and interrogate them.

      So I talked with HiddenSaint to see if it could be the same girls and if he helped them out to escape, but indeed we what billions and billions of people dreaming so chances are slight. If ever its the case... then it will explain why after my dream I came here and joined the forum.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Sanzora View Post
      Firstly, for the record, Lex is a she secondly, which story you wanna hear? I got plenty...


      No worries ^_^ To each his own. You aint gotta beleive us, the thread is more to see if anyone else ahs had experience with these people, not to try and convince people they exist!
      yeah, we're not trying to convince you, i mean it does sound a bit farfetched especiallyfor people who have not experienced it.....all that we ask is that you listen and see our side of the argument before taking sides....
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      once we can meet will do some friendly challenges.
      Last edited by delpiero; 06-17-2007 at 11:53 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by the real pieman View Post
      yeah, we're not trying to convince you, i mean it does sound a bit farfetched especiallyfor people who have not experienced it.....all that we ask is that you listen and see our side of the argument before taking sides....
      What people should keep in mind too is we only use a small part of our brain. We still do not know what the other parts are capable of.

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      friendly challenges? Like Fight Club? Count me in!

      Well since I've issued my challenge to the Dream Stalkers, my recall hasn't been the best due to poor sleep. But just about every dream I've remembered has been, lets say troublesome.

      So far, I've been turned to stone, hypnotically enslaved, interrogated, tortured with excessive gravity, made to pick the skin of my hand apart, tortured AND interrogated, interrogated, and put through some sort of pinball torture. Notice I stopped keeping score.

      It would seem there is something going on here, but I won't know for sure until I manage to see their energy.

      On the other hand, those attacks were pretty pathetic. I would have expected better from someone with the ability to dream walk.
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      The Cusp, be happy I can't do anything and wouldn't. I personally do not like harming a person or causing them pain. If anything I'd be more likely to protect.

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      hahaha for real Cusp?

      Since you did a challenge on these forums your having troubles in your dreams?

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