Thread: A car crash may happen within the next few weeks

Try to prevent it. Put up "drive slowly" signs

Originally Posted by Fordy

Try to prevent it. Put up "drive slowly" signs

Normally would, but apparently the skeptics want proof so if it happens and goes similar to what my friend said then will be interesting. It's a waiting game proof but can they simplely deny that something is there if a person has this happen to them?

heres how i think psycics work... the scenario is car accidents ok...

the psycic probably has bad karma or somthing and probably conected to some spirit most likely a demon and then she makes the car accident willingly she probably doesn't she is causing the accidents like it is jynxing them.. its a weird way of how psycics work but i think had that power to do shit like that before.

thats how they gain credability also..

Originally Posted by Ahhchuu

heres how i think psycics work... the scenario is car accidents ok...

the psycic probably has bad karma or somthing and probably conected to some spirit most likely a demon and then she makes the car accident willingly she probably doesn't she is causing the accidents like it is jynxing them.. its a weird way of how psycics work but i think had that power to do shit like that before.

thats how they gain credability also..

In which case would be wrong. Say a person hear's the event. Two people are talking on the phone. One person has a dream medium connection and the other has a real world spiritual connection. The one person on the other end hears the event because it is so loud, but goes out to check only to find nothing there. The other person on the phone hears nothing.

The phone is with the person so the other person would have heard any devices making the noise. Now say the person who hear the event writes the record on a peice of paper or tells the other person on the phone. BTW if you believe in Karma then how can one be skeptic of the unknown? Also Demons would be a spiritual event or deal not of this physical plane meaning that something beyond must be there. To offer proof to a skeptic would mean that there must be a physical science to explain how it works.

So I ask the skeptic if one has proof on another end of a event happening and the two have no invovlement of the event then how does one explain it? I am in another state while the person who heard it is in a different state. There is no way for me to help the person create the event so I'm basically the one writing about the event in order to keep a record. If the event happens I'll know about it. If it doesn't happen then I won't be as niave about things and admit I'm wrong on this one. I'll apologize as well and if you want to gloat at me for believing in something physic related on this one event you can laugh at me and say I told you so, but if it happens how will you explain it?

Originally Posted by AHiddenSaint

So I ask the skeptic if one has proof on another end of a event happening and the two have no invovlement of the event then how does one explain it? I am in another state while the person who heard it is in a different state. There is no way for me to help the person create the event so I'm basically the one writing about the event in order to keep a record. If the event happens I'll know about it. If it doesn't happen then I won't be as niave about things and admit I'm wrong on this one. I'll apologize as well and if you want to gloat at me for believing in something physic related on this one event you can laugh at me and say I told you so, but if it happens how will you explain it?

Probably by pointing out that the chances of a common occurrence happening within a broad timeline and in an unspecified location without specific details on the situation seems hardly psychic at all.

Originally Posted by Mark75

Probably by pointing out that the chances of a common occurrence happening within a broad timeline and in an unspecified location without specific details on the situation seems hardly psychic at all.

Thus the key is based on the other persons words. Even if something unique happens people aren't going to believe because of the factors invovled. If we play the skeptic role then anything related to this event could be disproven as you said because of the common factors, but what element of a event would make it unique? Would that be it happening near the location just as discribed by the physic or would that be as another poster had said just bad karma caused by another explained element such as demons.

Actually what we have here is more then just meet the I. I've laid out a unique puzzle based on a actual call. The puzzle in itself isn't the event, but more how the mind works in building facts to explain the event. Say for one it did happen just the way the person on the other line discribed what they hear. No matter what evidence was presented someone would deny it as a link to a physic event. People who believe in that part without question would praise it. Thus we have the dilemma in how does one prove something if another can explain it away as just a random generated factor of everyday life?

Originally Posted by AHiddenSaint

Normally would, but apparently the skeptics want proof so if it happens and goes similar to what my friend said then will be interesting. It's a waiting game proof but can they simplely deny that something is there if a person has this happen to them?

So your just going to let people possibly get hurt/die just to prove a pont...right....

Originally Posted by The Question

So your just going to let people possibly get hurt/die just to prove a pont...right....

But as the skeptic says it's not possible so would it really be letting a person die? How can you stop something that you have no control over?

sociopath (soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-uh-path)

Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.



seemed fitting to The Question's post

Originally Posted by Ahhchuu

sociopath (soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-uh-path)

Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.



seemed fitting to The Question's post

So then are you saying the behavior of not saving a person when have information like this is that? Or you claiming skeptics can sometimes have a sociopathic view when it comes to how one wants proof no matter what the cost of the proof?

the second.

Originally Posted by Ahhchuu

the second.

Hope my little deal here wasn't to bad. It's just I wanted to show how things can be when asking for proof of people. I actually did have a phone call with my friend about a event, but I do not know if it will really happen it just inspired the idea behind this little thread.

Originally Posted by AHiddenSaint

Thus the key is based on the other persons words. Even if something unique happens people aren't going to believe because of the factors invovled. If we play the skeptic role then anything related to this event could be disproven as you said because of the common factors, but what element of a event would make it unique? Would that be it happening near the location just as discribed by the physic or would that be as another poster had said just bad karma caused by another explained element such as demons.

What would make it unique is a factor which we can link the prediction specifically to a certain event. Information such as an accurate description of the vehicle, the identity or description of the people involved, or a specific location.

Originally Posted by AHiddenSaint

Actually what we have here is more then just meet the I. I've laid out a unique puzzle based on a actual call. The puzzle in itself isn't the event, but more how the mind works in building facts to explain the event. Say for one it did happen just the way the person on the other line discribed what they hear. No matter what evidence was presented someone would deny it as a link to a physic event. People who believe in that part without question would praise it. Thus we have the dilemma in how does one prove something if another can explain it away as just a random generated factor of everyday life?

You would simply need to demonstrate a tendency to be correct on a number of times that defies chance by a notable margin. For example, if I "predict" what number will come up when I roll a die, I will tend to be correct 1/6 of the time. If I was consistently correct 1/2 of the time in 100 rolls, then this would be a very compelling statistic.

AHS, you appear to have missed a few crucial lessons that most of us learn automatically as children; I suggest you check out the no doubt fascinating link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_waves

I don't see why we are even talking about this. I couldn't think of a MORE stupid 'prediction' than "a car crash is going to happen someday, somewhere, with some people". You might as well say: "I sense it will rain this month".

Originally Posted by Neruo

I don't see why we are even talking about this. I couldn't think of a MORE stupid 'prediction' than "a car crash is going to happen someday, somewhere, with some people". You might as well say: "I sense it will rain this month".

So then is a prediction related to a observation or can a physic event happen on a simple level yet be discredited because it's meanless in that the event itself isn't major. In order to prove something simple life events can not be used to prove it. It must be a major event that happens on a grand scale level in order for people to believe? Most things will never be proven this way.

Let's take a story that has been in the news recently. A cat goes around to rooms where death is bound to follow. The cat always seems to pick the room yet some people become scared of the cat. Is there something to the cat or has the cat observed enough around to understand a sixth sense that we can not understand till we observe our surroundings for what appears to be a life time?

this goes along with karma...

i used to see black cats when i did something bad or i had plans to do something bad, i usually changed what i was going to do because of the black cat. and sometimes if i did something good i would see a cat thats not black. or if it was something semi bad i would see a cat with black spots.

they were all stray cats on the side of the road while i was driving. if u want examples i would be happy to tell them.

Originally Posted by Mark75

Probably by pointing out that the chances of a common occurrence happening within a broad timeline and in an unspecified location without specific details on the situation seems hardly psychic at all.

Originally Posted by Mark75

What would make it unique is a factor which we can link the prediction specifically to a certain event. Information such as an accurate description of the vehicle, the identity or description of the people involved, or a specific location.



You would simply need to demonstrate a tendency to be correct on a number of times that defies chance by a notable margin. For example, if I "predict" what number will come up when I roll a die, I will tend to be correct 1/6 of the time. If I was consistently correct 1/2 of the time in 100 rolls, then this would be a very compelling statistic.

I love it when people use logic and common sense to dismiss ridiculous quackery; reminds me of myself.

Some one give this man a cookie.