Thread: Lucifer walks the earth...

O.o fook that man hahaha I believe that there is something "else" in this lifetime pretty crazy stuff man. Just goes to show you that crazy stuff is out there.

if demons are making themselves known through physical manifestations, ignore it. its a waste of time and spreads the idea that we should some how be afraid of some demon lurking in the shadows waiting to scare us. and it manipulates us.

I believe in demons as well, and I also believe they're biggest tool is to manipulate us to keep us from achieving our more important goals in life *like loving each other*. one way to do this is to have us pit against each other by labeling each other as evil.

IF a demon put his face on the smoke, what does that achieve? well, we label 9-11 as an EVIL event, even aligned with the devil and we label those who did it EVIL and also aligned with the devil. the house divided among itself falls right? Do you see those responsible for this event as less than human? I know a lot of people who do.

you gotta wonder about the flip side - if maybe THEY who hate us also saw some demonic omen about americans leading them to believe were all destined for hell so we might as well be done away with. just whose game are we playing anyways?

im glad most americans aren't fundamental loony christians, or we might have gone into Iraq as a religious disastrous war. Our affairs in Iraq, as much as I am opposed to it, turned out fairly well considering how much more horrible the situation could have become, like WWIII for one!. Its good that most people will look at this image and just say "you're just reading too much into it"

so lets not waste our time on silly demonic omens. if you do believe in omens look to omens being brought by much nicer spirits

Originally Posted by juroara

if demons are making themselves known through physical manifestations, ignore it. its a waste of time and spreads the idea that we should some how be afraid of some demon lurking in the shadows waiting to scare us. and it manipulates us.

I believe in demons as well, and I also believe they're biggest tool is to manipulate us to keep us from achieving our more important goals in life *like loving each other*. one way to do this is to have us pit against each other by labeling each other as evil.

IF a demon put his face on the smoke, what does that achieve? well, we label 9-11 as an EVIL event, even aligned with the devil and we label those who did it EVIL and also aligned with the devil. the house divided among itself falls right? Do you see those responsible for this event as less than human? I know a lot of people who do.

you gotta wonder about the flip side - if maybe THEY who hate us also saw some demonic omen about americans leading them to believe were all destined for hell so we might as well be done away with. just whose game are we playing anyways?

im glad most americans aren't fundamental loony christians, or we might have gone into Iraq as a religious disastrous war. Our affairs in Iraq, as much as I am opposed to it, turned out fairly well considering how much more horrible the situation could have become, like WWIII for one!. Its good that most people will look at this image and just say "you're just reading too much into it"

so lets not waste our time on silly demonic omens. if you do believe in omens look to omens being brought by much nicer spirits

That's um...an interesting perspective you have there? Mine still remains, the people responsible for 9/11 can die a violent death.

That's such a photoshop.

Coincidence.. Today you are looking at smoke for the devil, and tommorow you'll probably post an image of a sky with a cloud which looks god-like.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Jeff777

That's um...an interesting perspective you have there? Mine still remains, the people responsible for 9/11 can die a violent death.

if you really do believe in demons than you should know they feed off hatred

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

That's such a photoshop.

It's unedited...google the pics yourself. You can find most of them from cnn.com

Originally Posted by TempleGuard

Coincidence.. Today you are looking at smoke for the devil, and tommorow you'll probably post an image of a sky with a cloud which looks god-like.

Funny you should mention that, i've seen some "jesus clouds" as well, they're trippy

And for the record I never said "look at satan in the smoke!". I did say it was possible this is just "smoke and mirrors" (pun intended). I really don't know and am not really adamant about proving either side right or wrong. I just think the shit is cool...that's where I stand XD

Originally Posted by juroara

if you really do believe in demons than you should know they feed off hatred

They probably do. I don't hate anyone...but my statement remains, those responsible for 9/11 can die a violent death (believe me, i'm saying that with a smile, see how happy I am?)

Originally Posted by juroara

if you really do believe in demons than you should know they feed off hatred

If they feed with hate or fear, than I'm a fuckin' McDonalds.

Regardless if these pictures are modified or not - entities still do exist out there, both dark and light that are beyond our comprehension.

Originally Posted by Absolute

Regardless if these pictures are modified or not - entities still do exist out there, both dark and light that are beyond our comprehension.

What the hell? The pics are NOT modified people You can watch the "demon smoke" videos on youtube if you want taken from live feed during the disaster (I did) and you can get those photos from any credible source. CNN was asked if they modified the pictures THEY had taken and their response was "No." Why would they lie? Don't answer that if you're a conspiracy theorist.

Coincidence I think not... proof that God exists.














































No but really that was photoshopped, I have seen the pics from CNN and they are not fake they are actual photographs taken from the incident.

Wow that pic looks amazing...it would be really cool if it wasn't photoshopped though =/

Originally Posted by KuRoSaKi

Coincidence I think not... proof that God exists.


No but really that was photoshopped, I have seen the pics from CNN and they are not fake they are actual photographs taken from the incident.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Jeff777

What do you think?

Since you asked, here is a link that explains the psychological phenomenon of making concrete images out of the abstract.

http://skepdic.com/pareidol.html

Hey, I can't see it in the top left one, can you paint something around it so I can see it?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Since you asked, here is a link that explains the psychological phenomenon of making concrete images out of the abstract.

http://skepdic.com/pareidol.html

I was going to post an answer similar to this, but this explains it better than I could.

Think about this- Good and evil are all relative, subjective, relative only to the human mind that creates and defines them. They are irrelevant, as are we, in the universe. The idea of good and evil are societal creations to create coercion and complacency.

Think about this- if a horse contemplated what a demon would look like, surely it would look like an 'evil horse', would it not?

I suppose you do make a rather good point Tokyo_Kurikinton.

Yeah, and Jesus manifested himself in my French toast this morning.

top left looks like a giant fist to me.

those faces are pretty unnatural. Maybe when lots of people die, symbols like this just show up.
or maybe that's what the back end of a plane exploding looks like.

Originally Posted by tokyo_kurikinton

IThink about this- if a horse contemplated what a demon would look like, surely it would look like an 'evil horse', would it not?

Yeah, I was thinking about how bizarre it would be if there are demons and they just happen to resemble humans, though one of the formations looked like a dog or something. And if they are nonphysical, why would they need eyes, noses, mouths, and other such parts, and why would those parts be in exactly the same places humans have them? Also, why wouldn't they just stay in that form and say, "Hey, we're demons, and we did this evil!"? Why would they be vague, debatable, temporary blips in the smoke? I don't get it.


Not to moderators: I know we are ordinarily not supposed to express skepticism in the Beyond Dreaming forum, and I practically never do, but this is a subject that is not mentioned in the list of things you are not supposed to argue about. Also, the original post invited critique. So I figured and hope I'm not breaking the rules by saying this stuff.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Not to moderators: I know we are ordinarily not supposed to express skepticism in the Beyond Dreaming forum, and I practically never do, but this is a subject that is not mentioned in the list of things you are not supposed to argue about. Also, the original post invited critique. So I figured and hope I'm not breaking the rules by saying this stuff.

Fine with me as long as the conversation remains constructive and civil.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Since you asked, here is a link that explains the psychological phenomenon of making concrete images out of the abstract.

http://skepdic.com/pareidol.html

Thanks for the link UM, it's interesting and explains a lot.

Originally Posted by KuRoSaKi

LOL!!! god is ripping a hole in the sky. Maybe to take a leak?

BTW there is a face on the moon, too.

if Lucifer/Satan were to take a form, it would be beautiful...to decieve people.

"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." 2 Corinthians 11:13-14