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      Meditation, what do you know about it?

      I've never really meditated for more than 20 minutes at a time. I also don't know much about meditation other than it makes you calm and clears your thoughts.

      I recently heard about "transcendental meditation." From what I gather, you unlock parts of your mind that you can't otherwise do in normal waking consciousness. So it got me thinking, can you achieve the same states in this type of meditation that you can achieve in the dream state?

      In my lucid dreams, I have absolutely no social mask. I can look up at the sky and cry at the beauty of it all. I can laugh with dream characters and have moments of pure happiness. I can become horribly afraid of something and feel it deep down. All of these emotional states happen in seconds. In the waking state, I can't do this. I can't just look at the sky and cry. I can't experience pure bliss. It's not even the emotional states, it's the feeling of being your true inner self that I only get in dreams. Can I get that same... lucid feeling about life, self, and in general?

      So, for all of you that have dabbled in meditation and know alot about it, I'd love to hear some of your answers.
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      The act of transcendental meditation can do the initially practical: make you relax, feel better, re-energize your mind, help you concentrate, etcetera but as you continue the practice what seemed unknowable or beyond conceptual understanding can be felt and realized, specifically with vipassana as it denotes the form of meditation where you sit still and let the universe reveal its secrets to you.

      So when I started meditating, which wasn't so long ago, I was introverted. Not by my own will, I tried socializing but found it difficult. I felt trapped in my own thoughts, almost so trapped I just couldn't stay with the conversation and be myself. The act of mindfulness is meditation with an activity, and it basically means going into what athletes refer to as the zone. I should ressurect my thread on buddhism and videogames, but anyway... so this state involves being utterly in the present, not focused on a single object but allowing your attention to drift from sensation to sensation whether it be sight, sound or feeling, whatever catches your attention. it also means not judging anything, just experiencing everything as both the player in the world and an entity watching you play. In the universe you are the gear and the guy watching the gear but not the commentator, that is an illusion we have. It takes work to tap into this, and I tried and failed at first but eventually just got it, and what i thought would be relinquishing control to my nature was actual more like me grabbing a firmer grip on my life. Without that judgmental train of thought distracting me I was able to just be myself, completely, without any insecurity or doubt. It was like that incubus song.

      Of course after that quick taste it didn't last forever, which is why forming habits to practice both meditation and mindfulness are important steps to the practice.

      And other than freeing your inner self, meditation also strengthens your awareness and concentration, which overtime allows you to put yourself in such deep states of meditation you can WILD.

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      I look at it this way. There are many ways to do it just a matter of finding out what works best for you. The results are what you put in it. I do believe it does help in relaxing. Let's take the ways to use it. 5 minutes a day and can just be laying down or sitting up in bed.

      It is just a matter of focusing and allowing the mind to slip into a relaxed state. I usually try to focus on my breathing first which seems to relax my mind. I never try to force a set pattern just more listening and going with the flow of it. Doing just the breathing patterns can relax you if you pratice at it.

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      I've decided i'm going to post in this thread, once i wake up. Just keeping a spot here, so i don't forget.

      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      Sorry to hijack with a noob question, but how do I meditate?

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      Quote Originally Posted by DreamGuy View Post
      Sorry to hijack with a noob question, but how do I meditate?
      there is many ways to meditate

      this is a video describing zazen meditation(the breathing meditaton mentioned above)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rh8Fc3ecd8

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      Quote Originally Posted by DreamGuy View Post
      Sorry to hijack with a noob question, but how do I meditate?
      not a real question of how, but more of what works best for you on different levels and changing it as you become more advance in it.
      Last edited by AHiddenSaint; 10-25-2007 at 09:19 PM. Reason: a letter didn't type

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      Quote Originally Posted by cloudWalker View Post
      I've decided i'm going to post in this thread, once i wake up. Just keeping a spot here, so i don't forget.

      =_- i still forgot... meh i don't even wanna post anymore

      I'll give a link.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnius Deus View Post
      The act of transcendental meditation can do the initially practical: make you relax, feel better, re-energize your mind, help you concentrate, etcetera but as you continue the practice what seemed unknowable or beyond conceptual understanding can be felt and realized, specifically with vipassana as it denotes the form of meditation where you sit still and let the universe reveal its secrets to you.

      So when I started meditating, which wasn't so long ago, I was introverted. Not by my own will, I tried socializing but found it difficult. I felt trapped in my own thoughts, almost so trapped I just couldn't stay with the conversation and be myself. The act of mindfulness is meditation with an activity, and it basically means going into what athletes refer to as the zone. I should ressurect my thread on buddhism and videogames, but anyway... so this state involves being utterly in the present, not focused on a single object but allowing your attention to drift from sensation to sensation whether it be sight, sound or feeling, whatever catches your attention. it also means not judging anything, just experiencing everything as both the player in the world and an entity watching you play. In the universe you are the gear and the guy watching the gear but not the commentator, that is an illusion we have. It takes work to tap into this, and I tried and failed at first but eventually just got it, and what i thought would be relinquishing control to my nature was actual more like me grabbing a firmer grip on my life. Without that judgmental train of thought distracting me I was able to just be myself, completely, without any insecurity or doubt. It was like that incubus song.

      Of course after that quick taste it didn't last forever, which is why forming habits to practice both meditation and mindfulness are important steps to the practice.

      And other than freeing your inner self, meditation also strengthens your awareness and concentration, which overtime allows you to put yourself in such deep states of meditation you can WILD.
      This has been quite helpful for me. Thank you for posting the comments.

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