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      Last night was just as regular as any others. I wasn't expecting to be blown the fuck out of my self existance( only way I can describe the feeling). I end up going to sleep rather quicker than usual, within minutes (5-10).

      Sunshine breached my dreaming eyelids and the dream began. I woke up in the dream standing in a very wide feild or plane (forgive me, i'm a horrible speller). There was a massive army surrounding me in all directions, and a tall, old man with a long beird at my side. The army consisted of human-goblin like creatures, brown of color, each carrying a crossbow and each unit of soldiers with their own color scheme. Much happined in the dream I can not recall, such as most of the journey to the most unbelievable experience of my life.I travel alongside this army (staying close to the old man, as he seems to be the boss of things) through endless forest, river, and mountain. Very crouded and jungle -like.

      All that I know (due to what the old man told me in my dream, which i cannot recall) is that we are running from something. Trying to find sanctuary in a certain position. From time to time in the dream, these elegant silver, giant, floating ships catch up to this most massive group of people i have ever seen in one spot. The army would take out these ships with raids of arrows with hardly any casualties at all.

      After a long travel, we exit the crouded part of the jungle and enter a more wide area, still covered in vegitation. I huge tower is towering directly infront of me, at least 1000 stories high. The old man places his hand on my shoulder and tells me "come on, lets go." I obey and as i enter this temple, more of the strange ships come. More than there ever was. Alot. At this point, what was once peiceful vegetation becomes covered in blood and chaos, as the two oppositions war. The most noticable feature of this event is the sky, which goes from cloudy, blue to blood-red.

      The old man, myself, and a unit of what-the-fuck-are-these-things soldiers make our way up this enourmous bizintene of crouded stairs and hallways, each with a window, which i look out of everytime to notice that war is still taking place. We make our way to (what i assume to be at the time) the center-top of the temple, a large dome of a room with a stone slab, 4 feet or so off the ground, laying in the center. The old man and I (the creatures do not enter the room) make our way to the slab and the old man tells me "I thikn it is time to teach you the secrets of the Universe".

      No questions asked, I hop up on the slab and lay down on my back. The only thought in my head at this point was that I knew something unbelievable was about to happen.

      The man tells me "You must first be in a dream within a dream. Sleep, my child." I close my eyes and try to sleep (which only takes seconds).
      I open my eyes to find that I am in the exact same room but everything is a little greyish. Not even five seconds after awaking, a large, very intense "pop" like effect appears over my head were colors and sounds and images of all kind opens over my head. I look into the very intense blob of vortex, only to be completely torn out of my body in three seconds. I am now in this whirlwind of vibrating matter and images. All of my emotions and thoughts seem active at once. The whole experience itself is very fuzzy, but I definetally remember it. I remember falling from the vortex of energy at thousands of miles an hour back into my body, waking up, facing the old man, and imideatly stating "I've never experienced anything like that before." the old man no longer talks to me, as I go into another dream of some sort.

      I remember that the rest of my dreams that night were spent trying to understand what just happined to me, with no success what so ever.

      For the past 2 years, I have been studying DMT (the most powerful drug Known to man) and have been obsessed with reading about what people gain out of a DMT experiance. During this time, I have also been trying to aquire the drug with no success and am still in the proccess of trying to get it. During a DMT trip, one is suposedly blasted out of their bodies into a Higher (most likely one of the highest) planes.From the experiences I have read, with the Universal awawreness that comes during the trip as well as the extremely simultainous experience, I can not relate this dream to anything else but this substance. I have heard DMT is released naturally in the body when one dies, and that dreaming is very related to the substance. Could my obsession over this chemical possibly of unconsously willed myself to release a small form of DMT in my brain?

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      Sounds like one hell of a night for you. I dunno, drugs are drugs and don't see how they can be related to anything except seeing crazy stuff.

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      certainly you could've released some amount of DMT, since you manifest your own reality ( i know that some (okey, lots) of people have trouble accepting this concept, but it works for me).
      This is interesting indeed. I will look into it.

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      You felt what you felt, theres no question it was a life changing experience if thats what you felt. Its an amazing idea though that you may have actually experienced the DMT trip you've been hoping for. I've also heard theory that dreams themselves actually involve DMT, so it would have just been more DMT than usual or something. Anyways, I agree that you shape your own reality, you wanted a DMT trip and you got it! Awesome. Also, its weird you haven't found any DMT to try, funnily enough I have a friend who grows a type of grass that DMT can be extracted from for their whole yard. Maybe you could look into getting some stuff to make it yourself? I wouldn't recommend doing that much though, its supposed to be a profound experience and I think people get fucked up if they have profound experiences all the time. I myself haven't tried it but I might one day.
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      It sounds like you might have been in an astral projection. Yes, it has been theorized that DMT is released in your brain during near death experiences, out of body experiences, and dreams.

      Back to the point, the enviorment you described sounds just like some kind of astral plane. Have you considered that the old man was your dream/spirit guide? Hmm.. or maybe you've been thinking about DMT so much that it manifested into your dream, as you said? If it was indeed an astral projection, the dream should of had a very different feel to it when compared to other normal dreams, and the enviorment should have been much more beautiful and colorful. It sounds to me from your report that that is very much the case.
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      Quote Originally Posted by wer View Post
      If it was indeed an astral projection, the dream should of had a very different feel to it when compared to other normal dreams, and the enviorment should have been much more beautiful and colorful. It sounds to me from your report that that is very much the case.
      When you astral project, reality should still be what you make of it, so everyone's astral reality will be that which they expect it to be even if the expectation is only subconscious.

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      Very interesting. I normaly don't believe in this stuff (of anything), but you do release some DMT when you die or are dying. The ancient Egyptians new about this to, and they sort of show it in the book of the dead. Some believe that it alows your soul to leave your body, perhaps for a moment you actully went to where we came from? Also, I don't think it was an astral projection, but I bet you could still release DMT in a normal dream. I might try this in a dream, but I would never do any drug, unless it is for medical purposes.
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      Is the DMT drug just a drug ment for you to hallucinate and that's all?
      like other drugs you do, seems they are all alike and go on trips seeing crazy stuff. To you DMT experts, what is it? just a hallucination or something else? like you guys said...you release it just before you die and while you are sleeping. DMT is the most powerfull drug known to man, and it's in every ecosystem. grass, our brains, etc etc and it's illegal.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEjTX...elated&search=
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      Sounds like one hell of a night for you. I dunno, drugs are drugs and don't see how they can be related to anything except seeing crazy stuff.
      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      Is the DMT drug just a drug ment for you to hallucinate and that's all?
      like other drugs you do, seems they are all alike and go on trips seeing crazy stuff. To you DMT experts, what is it? just a hallucination or something else? like you guys said...you release it just before you die and while you are sleeping. DMT is the most powerfull drug known to man, and it's in every ecosystem. grass, our brains, etc etc and it's illegal.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEjTX...elated&search=
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
      no hallucinogen just makes you hallucinate. They all warp our perception of reality.
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      DMT is a neurotransmitter released by the pineal gland, and it is part of what causes dreaming. Really bizarre and vivid dreams are DMT trips, literally. I don't know how much DMT is involved in them compared to what is involved if you take it from an external source, but it is what gives such dreams their extra qualities. I am pretty convinced that astral projections are DMT trips also. I would bet my car that near death experiences are DMT trips.

      I have never been able to find a smokable DMT extraction, but I know how to find the drinkable form of it. For DMT to work by way of ingestion, it has to come with an MAOI (monoamine oxidase inhibitor). Such a mixture comes in many forms of a drink called ayahuasca brew. You can legally order the ingredients for it in the United States, but making the brew is illegal. Chacruna (psychotria viridis) is one DMT containing plant, and there are others. Mimosa hostilis is another one. Ayahuasca vine is the most common vine for mixing with those plants to make ayahuasca brew. The brew is usually called just "ayahuasca" for short. You can order chacruna, mimosa hostilis, and ayahuasca vine from sites all over the internet. Make sure you research ayahuasca to the bone if you decide to do it, and make sure you are mixing reasonable amounts of the ingredients. It will turn your picture of reality inside out and then into a trillion knots. The bad trip potential with it makes LSD look like a bowl of Cheerios, so don't do that stuff without a major education on it. I have never done it, and I am definitely not encouraging you to do it. I'm just telling you what I know so you can have the knowledge too.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      DMT is a neurotransmitter released by the pineal gland, and it is part of what causes dreaming. Really bizarre and vivid dreams are DMT trips, literally. I don't know how much DMT is involved in them compared to what is involved if you take it from an external source, but it is what gives such dreams their extra qualities. I am pretty convinced that astral projections are DMT trips also. I would bet my car that near death experiences are DMT trips.

      I have never been able to find a smokable DMT extraction, but I know how to find the drinkable form of it. For DMT to work by way of ingestion, it has to come with an MAOI (monoamine oxidase inhibitor). Such a mixture comes in many forms of a drink called ayahuasca brew. You can legally order the ingredients for it in the United States, but making the brew is illegal. Chacruna (psychotria viridis) is one DMT containing plant, and there are others. Mimosa hostilis is another one. Ayahuasca vine is the most common vine for mixing with those plants to make ayahuasca brew. The brew is usually called just "ayahuasca" for short. You can order chacruna, mimosa hostilis, and ayahuasca vine from sites all over the internet. Make sure you research ayahuasca to the bone if you decide to do it, and make sure you are mixing reasonable amounts of the ingredients. It will turn your picture of reality inside out and then into a trillion knots. The bad trip potential with it makes LSD look like a bowl of Cheerios, so don't do that stuff without a major education on it. I have never done it, and I am definitely not encouraging you to do it. I'm just telling you what I know so you can have the knowledge too.
      So it's nothing different then normal drug trips except maybe a more powerfull trip because the drug is part of us and everything. Well then i guess i wont be trying for a DMT trip, i figured it was different.

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      DMT could indeed be an extremely powerful, mind altering hallucinogen, but most who do it, do it to gain "cosmic awareness" of some sort. Many tribe shamans did DMT in ceremonies and to some extent, heal themselves. DMT is more than some crazy drug, everyone who does it says nothing prepares you for it, which is exactly how I felt when I woke up.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      DMT is a neurotransmitter released by the pineal gland, and it is part of what causes dreaming. Really bizarre and vivid dreams are DMT trips, literally. I don't know how much DMT is involved in them compared to what is involved if you take it from an external source, but it is what gives such dreams their extra qualities. I am pretty convinced that astral projections are DMT trips also. I would bet my car that near death experiences are DMT trips.

      I have never been able to find a smokable DMT extraction, but I know how to find the drinkable form of it. For DMT to work by way of ingestion, it has to come with an MAOI (monoamine oxidase inhibitor). Such a mixture comes in many forms of a drink called ayahuasca brew. You can legally order the ingredients for it in the United States, but making the brew is illegal. Chacruna (psychotria viridis) is one DMT containing plant, and there are others. Mimosa hostilis is another one. Ayahuasca vine is the most common vine for mixing with those plants to make ayahuasca brew. The brew is usually called just "ayahuasca" for short. You can order chacruna, mimosa hostilis, and ayahuasca vine from sites all over the internet. Make sure you research ayahuasca to the bone if you decide to do it, and make sure you are mixing reasonable amounts of the ingredients. It will turn your picture of reality inside out and then into a trillion knots. The bad trip potential with it makes LSD look like a bowl of Cheerios, so don't do that stuff without a major education on it. I have never done it, and I am definitely not encouraging you to do it. I'm just telling you what I know so you can have the knowledge too.
      Yes, I am going to get the Ayahausca form of it this summer hopefully.

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      Quote Originally Posted by awakened_mind View Post
      DMT could indeed be an extremely powerful, mind altering hallucinogen, but most who do it, do it to gain "cosmic awareness" of some sort. Many tribe shamans did DMT in ceremonies and to some extent, heal themselves. DMT is more than some crazy drug, everyone who does it says nothing prepares you for it, which is exactly how I felt when I woke up.
      I see..well maybe i should try it out then. I just wanna have an expierence that is undescribable like people go through.

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      Here's a clip of Joe Rogan, the host of fear factorm talking about DMT and dreaming. I never realized how entertaining this guy is. Worth a listen.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      I see..well maybe i should try it out then. I just wanna have an expierence that is undescribable like people go through.
      Be careful.

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      Sounds like a very cool experience you had there.

      That said, give up the search for DMT. Why does everyone here seem to think that f*cking yourself up with hard drugs is a good idea? Seriously, you just proved that you can have amazing life experiences without getting wasted on that sh!t.

      Just a thought.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaught View Post
      Sounds like a very cool experience you had there.

      That said, give up the search for DMT. Why does everyone here seem to think that f*cking yourself up with hard drugs is a good idea? Seriously, you just proved that you can have amazing life experiences without getting wasted on that sh!t.

      Just a thought.
      Dmt is produced naturally in the body and released every night during REM sleep, and at the moment of death. People given high doses can't remember the trip, much like a dream.

      It's likely the source of my recurring platonic solids dream.
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=29794

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      Dmt is produced naturally in the body and released every night during REM sleep, and at the moment of death. People given high doses can't remember the trip, much like a dream.

      It's likely the source of my recurring platonic solids dream.
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=29794
      Well, that's fine. I'm referring to the synthetic stuff being made and sold.

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      What about a salvia trip? it's herbs you smoke. Heard froma guy at work it feels as if you are outside of your body floating around.

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      Here's a clip of Joe Rogan, the host of fear factorm talking about DMT and dreaming. I never realized how entertaining this guy is. Worth a listen.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
      Yeah, i already posted that.

      It's funny seeing people think DMT is the same as lucid dreaming and think they already know what DMT trip is like without expierencing one.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
      What about a salvia trip? it's herbs you smoke. Heard froma guy at work it feels as if you are outside of your body floating around.
      There is nothing, and i mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, that is even somewhat related to DMT. No other drug is anywhere near as powerful and mind altering. If anyone plans on attempting this shit, take a long LONG sit (at least a month) and research the drug and experiences that people have had, This is not a drug you do for fun.

      http://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_DMT.shtml

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      LSD can be pretty close, only problem is there is no way of judging dosage. It can vary quite a bit in quality.

      Uhh... What were we talking about?

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      LSD can be pretty close, only problem is there is no way of judging dosage. It can vary quite a bit in quality.

      Uhh... What were we talking about?
      LSD is fuckin Soda Pop compared to this shit. I've experienced LSD at a pretty high level and can easily say that LSD isn't even worth comparing to DMT.

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      Quote Originally Posted by awakened_mind View Post
      There is nothing, and i mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, that is even somewhat related to DMT. No other drug is anywhere near as powerful and mind altering. If anyone plans on attempting this shit, take a long LONG sit (at least a month) and research the drug and experiences that people have had, This is not a drug you do for fun.

      http://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_DMT.shtml
      Just out of curiosity, where can the smokable extract be found? I have never met anybody who has the slightest idea on that. Most people don't even know what the Hell DMT is. Would it be something that could be found by asking around in certain parts of San Francisco or Eugene, Oregon? Or maybe the hippy nomads at Widespread Panic concerts would know of access routes? The smokable extract causes a ten minute trip, while the drinkable ayahuasca causes a trip that lasts four to eight hours. I have no idea how people find the smokable extract. And the chemical process for making it is so long and confusing it's laughable to non-chemists.
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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