I haven't dug too deeply into the topics against logic but I'm assuming they hail from the same direction as topics about perception and this whole "non-duality" that is being discussed all over the board. |
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I've been seeing many people on this board who seem to be against the idea of science, logic, and reason. Can I ask how the thought that logic is close-minded, moronic, "you-name-it" was obtained without the use of logic in the first place? |
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I haven't dug too deeply into the topics against logic but I'm assuming they hail from the same direction as topics about perception and this whole "non-duality" that is being discussed all over the board. |
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Science and logic, are just relative inferences into personal experience and attempted interpretation of another. |
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Last edited by ClouD; 11-08-2007 at 01:45 PM.
You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.
How is science based on theology? An example of theology is a man feeling happy and believing a talking rabbit named Garathoudus made him happy, no logic needed. While an example of science, is when one person sees pushing a button turns a light on, and another person sees pushing a button turns a light on, so they then conclude pushing that button turns the light on, obviously, logic is very much needed. There could be another reason for the light turning on, but after a number of tests constantly being conclusive, narrowing down the odds of it being Garathoudus, the talking rabbit, turning on the light, it can be generally decided that pushing the button will turn the light on. |
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Last edited by Ethereal_Apprentice; 11-08-2007 at 02:46 PM.
When all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed.
Theology is everything that we do not experience, but that we claim to 'know'. |
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You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.
You are right, we cannot be certain of facts of everything. |
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Last edited by ClouD; 11-08-2007 at 03:07 PM.
You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.
Your point is real, but I think you're making it a little more dramatic then it really is. You cannot deny that we must be close to truth with how efficiently we complete tasks, such as using a computer or healing broken bones. Even if we are slightly off on the exact reasons for our success, it would be a mistake to say we know nothing. |
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When all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed.
no way cloud ! |
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"Science refers to a system of acquiring knowledge based on the scientific method." |
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Lets take a look at logic from the dream side of things. I know it's foiled many a lucid dream for me. When things start getting weird, I'll just come up with a rational explanation for it, rather than realize the truth, that it is just a dream. |
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Logic IS always a good thing and your evidence to the contrary makes no sense. Your dream self is generally illogical to the fact that the dream world isn't real. To get a lucid dream, one must use logic to realize one is dreaming. Please think about your arguements before you post them. |
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When all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed.
heh.. yep.. i agree with b12 who explained wider than i did... but b12 didnt wrote anything about experiments.. but its ok.. |
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Logic is not absolute. Have you never seen seen Star Trek? Damn arrogant Vulcans! |
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I already admitted that logic can be flawed, but it is never a bad thing to have. It is making the very best of what you are given. Without logic, there is not another system to explore the world except blind ignorance. No one in this forum follows the practice of blind ignorance, and if they say they do they're a liar because they're able to find the keys to type out their post. They find it because they practice logical thought. |
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When all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed.
Logic arises as a result of what you already know. - the cusp |
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i think that means psychokinesis (which i believe is a synonym for telekinesis) and remote viewing |
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I definatly follow logic and science, but also would like to experiment with pk and what not to see if it could work. If indeed I ever find it to work, then I would try to apply science to it. |
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Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible.
When all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed.
I am a skeptic. Of theology and beliefs, as well as statements based on science. I want to see the science, to see the studies, the experiments. Because bad science (done according to faulty methods) can say some pretty crazy things. When someone makes a statement based upon science I want refrences to back it up. I want to look for myself whether it is based on reasonably good science or bad science. |
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