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      Everything that has happen to me in my life time

      I am reposting this because a lot of different places it has been posted of my time on the board. I invite others to give their view, but if you are just going to insult it try to at least respect what is happening. I have never claimed I have special powers or physic abilities. The only thing I do know is my body is physically different from most people.

      About 5 to 7 years back I found out that my blood vessels flow through my body differently. Instead of from my heart going to both arms they go through one arm and then the other. This might account for a lot of stuff that happens to me because with the flow of blood being different no telling what side effects it might cause. That is the first unique discovery that has ever been made about me. My doctor at the time wanted to publish my records of what they found because the condition is so rare. Medical freak or a product of evovlution who knows.

      First I never orginally saught other world activities they came to me. Around my teenage years my parents were fighting. I was also being picked on at school. There was no real escape for me and most of the time I would end up in my room or somewhere in the house alone crying. I also at this time did at least once try to kill myself. I had the knife right at my heart just not the strength to push it through. Something kept it pulled back my own weakness to commit or something else who knows.

      With taking my own life a failure I turned to spiritual understand. I do not know how it orginally started, but I became more spiritually aware of my surroundings. i developed my own form of meditation to help calm myself down. I did have the internet, but only a webtv unit that allowed me to have interactions to a small understanding of the self ego. I found myself going to chat rooms and instead of just being for some odd reason people would tell me their stories. This allowed me understanding of how small my own problems were and to see myself just as a small faction of what goes on around us.

      I started to observe not just the chat room life, but all life. A term came into my mind Observer of Life. I gained wisdom just by trying to watch, listen, and understand. I was part of all life yet not part of it. I could understand yet I did not interact. Human understanding is what many do not come across unless they are willing to try and seek it.

      This is how I awoke spiritually, mentally, and physically aware of other states of being. My dreaming at this stage was very strong. I could reach levels that I didn't understand. I lacked knowledge, but saught understanding of higher senses. I also had physical things happen to me not just mental.

      The first was Two people watching me as clear as I would see you or anyone else physically. They had a old doctor and nurse uniform. Nobody else in the house was awake at the time. The people were not anyone I had memories or seen related to family. They just smiled and watched me almost as a parents might watch a small child. This I still do not have full understanding. I have never seen them again after it happen.

      The second big event when I was laying down in my bed a small matelic sphere grew in size. I felt tiingling and numbness all around me. I also felt myself being lifted up. I do not believe I left the bed or if it was real it wasn't that high up just enough for the body to fill nothing below. It stopped suddenly and I have never experienced it again.

      The third is a vision. Seeing the wall of my room and contain a image of a desert scene. Then going into that image. Watching a group of three people in black robes talk about using someone. Feeling I shouldn't be there, but coming away with a Term The Ancient Ones.

      These 3 events set me looking even more for understanding. I have tried to find answers, but still to this day I have not found or felt a full understanding. Discount them if want, but it is what has shaped my reality and the reason why I first signed on 2 or 3 years ago to this board. I may never find the answers, but I will keep trying to find wisdom and understanding no matter what so that I may grow.

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      First off, i have to say -- wisdom truly does come from watching, listening, and understanding.

      I wouldn't be able to understand those three events. But they came from a stressful time in your life. No offense to you, but do you have any psychological disorders? If so, they must have been hallucinations. If not, my next explanation would be those occured in extremely vivid dreams. And if that's not the case, then that's something really special.

      Your second event sounds like an out-of-body experience. You were phasing into another level of consciousness, and the tingling and numbness were you either entering sleep paralysis or "leaving" your physical body.

      Before i say anything, you first: what do you think these mean? Think about it. It has to mean something. Sure, you won't understand, but you can try. Don't think complex; think simple, explain each aspect as if i didn't know what it was. First one -- what doest a doctor do and how? A nurse? What does that have to do with you? What is smiling, and what does it show? According to what you just said about what a doctor/nurse does and how, why would they be smiling?


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      You said you were trying to kill youself, but something pulled you back. Well, normally, your mind won't allow you to kill yourself. It's just like choking yourself. You'll pass out and start breathing again, and that is how your mind will try to keep you alive. If you punctered your heart, your mind knows you would die, so it's only way of stopping it's death was to stop you.

      If you were to try and find out about all these spiritual events, I can tell you not to talk to a very scientific or extremely skeptical person. They will just reguard you as crazy.

      And about the three people in the black robes, the 'ancient ones'. A looong time ago, when I was much younger, I was trying to sleep. I thought I heard a voice. I looked up into a big mirror on the wall, and behind me was a man in a black robe, saying something that I couldn't understand. Now, I was too scared to turn around, so I just burried my head in my pillow and fell asleep. Perhaps this man was one of the three you saw; or I was just crazy
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      You're BOTH crazy!

      Haha, of course not, i'm a scientific person but i'm completely open to unexplainable things. The experience you had, Arrekasu, is pretty cool -- if it was the same person in the black robe that would be interesting.

      I have an idea. Both of you PM me describing in detail what you remember of this person/these people in black robes, and also how they were talking -- did it sound harsh, soft? what kind of language characters did they use? (any "ach" sounds or "gha" sounds or such?) and so on.

      The reason for each of you PMing me seperately would be to truly determine if these were the same people. If one person posted and then another, the later person would be influenced by the first person's post.


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      Quote Originally Posted by b12 View Post
      First off, i have to say -- wisdom truly does come from watching, listening, and understanding.

      I wouldn't be able to understand those three events. But they came from a stressful time in your life. No offense to you, but do you have any psychological disorders? If so, they must have been hallucinations. If not, my next explanation would be those occured in extremely vivid dreams. And if that's not the case, then that's something really special.
      As far as I know no. I was actually able to self help myself through my spiritual awaken. About the only thing psychologically that would be different is I am Transgender. I do not consider that a disorder though. I am actually emotionally normal now. I may get stressed out with things, but using meditation and relaxing my mind I can usually calm myself down pretty easy and face most challenges coming my way.

      I have been playing with a state and trying to study it. I'm not for sure if it is related to my dreaming, but I did have a experience non-drug related due to toying in this state. I have tried not to be afraid of it and some stuff is amazing what has happen. While not fully in control I have seen stuff. If hallucinations do not know. I do know drugs are never invovled and I anything that happens to me is natural no provoke by means that could cause it using things like that.

      Your second event sounds like an out-of-body experience. You were phasing into another level of consciousness, and the tingling and numbness were you either entering sleep paralysis or "leaving" your physical body.
      I wouldn't put it past that. At the time I didn't know what out of body was or astral projection or lucid dreaming. It took a long time after of studying to understand better. The most recent thing none related that could have been out of body or any of that is I traveled through my door when it was closed. I was fully asleep at the time and saw a friend of my sisters staying over. I heard the converstation and watched both her and my mother talk. I later confirmed things that happen. No proof though as far as I'm concerned though just again personal experiences which is why I claim nothing only trying to seek understanding.

      Before i say anything, you first: what do you think these mean? Think about it. It has to mean something. Sure, you won't understand, but you can try. Don't think complex; think simple, explain each aspect as if i didn't know what it was. First one -- what doest a doctor do and how? A nurse? What does that have to do with you? What is smiling, and what does it show? According to what you just said about what a doctor/nurse does and how, why would they be smiling?
      Again still have no idea. It was truly random. At the time it had no meaning. What was more shocking is my reaction then anything. I could not believe I just went back to sleep. If I had been me now I would have wanted to get up and go to. It was just one of those things though that happen and I still do not know the meaning.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Arrekasu View Post

      If you were to try and find out about all these spiritual events, I can tell you not to talk to a very scientific or extremely skeptical person. They will just reguard you as crazy.
      Actually I am trying to find a mixture myself of reason and understanding. It is why I do not jump to claim I have physic powers. My dreaming level if very strong. I can remember every dream I have a night. I can dream up to 7 to 8 times a night too. I can also see great details in dreams. My dreaming is just as real as this world. Time also doesn't matter there.

      There is a lot that I do not understand about myself. Yes it is possible I maybe crazy in some aspects how they review things. I however try to keep everything safe. I look at it more as a experiment on myself to gain understanding each time something does happen. Right now I am trying to control not because belief, but in order to have sanity over it. I know somethings can cause others to go crazy. I did have a God complex at one time because of it, but I pretty much overcame that with reason and logic.


      And about the three people in the black robes, the 'ancient ones'. A looong time ago, when I was much younger, I was trying to sleep. I thought I heard a voice. I looked up into a big mirror on the wall, and behind me was a man in a black robe, saying something that I couldn't understand. Now, I was too scared to turn around, so I just burried my head in my pillow and fell asleep. Perhaps this man was one of the three you saw; or I was just crazy
      With me I was looking at a wall near the window. Nothing is on that wall in the area that was looking at. It wasn't seeing anything here, but more a feeling I shouldn't be there. I was overlooking kind of not as a single prospective, but like when watch a movie and see everything from above. They never said the term, but it was more a feeling the whole time watching. I still lack full understanding of it. I just always tried to research the term to see if anything related would show up.

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      Quote Originally Posted by b12 View Post
      I have an idea. Both of you PM me describing in detail what you remember of this person/these people in black robes, and also how they were talking -- did it sound harsh, soft? what kind of language characters did they use? (any "ach" sounds or "gha" sounds or such?) and so on.
      Everything I remember is pretty much there. It has been so long on some stuff. The reason I remember what I have about most of this is because it had a strong impact on me. A lot of these happen about 10 years ago. The most recent stuff not so much as interesting as that. I do not know if I will have another experience with either. I have not seen them again since it happen. All of the above only happen once. No matter how deep I have gone into understanding I have never been able to recreate the events that did happen.

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      I don't remember much about my experience either. I just remember there was a man in a black robe saying something.
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      *sigh* and here i am never expieriencing anything.

      That does sound cool Hidden, not the attempt suicide (i know how you feel, i've had it EXTREMLY BAD in life but hey i'm still alive....for the moment, obviously)


      Anyway keep searching even if people laugh at you or say you suck or w/e, i know how it feels to have the whole world against you, and it's not pretty but w/e i stopped caring what people thought, just agree with them in a non agreeable way then laugh and move on not giving a crap what they think.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post

      Anyway keep searching even if people laugh at you or say you suck or w/e, i know how it feels to have the whole world against you, and it's not pretty but w/e i stopped caring what people thought, just agree with them in a non agreeable way then laugh and move on not giving a crap what they think.
      actually I invite them to ask reasonable questions. I will answer as best as can. The difference within me is I am still trying to find understanding. If I can help in others finding it as well along the path I'm ok. I'm not afraid to answer questions or hear different view points. As long as a skepitical person can be respectful I can be respectful of them.

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      Have you considered trying some sort of memory recall method for these particular dreams/hallucinations, such as hypnotherapy? Under hypnosis you can recall details you otherwise could not. In a hypnotic state you might be able to create a sketch of the robed men and of the doctor and nurse.

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      I would assume this nurse and doctor were spirit guides/dream guides/guardian angels. They have many names but usually are watching over us all the time. Physically, we are never trained to keep our psychic senses when we are younger so we inevitably forget.

      Orbs are also a common form of a spiritual entity. Interesting to denote that one hovered above you and how you possibly had an OBE.

      In regards to these robed figures - there is a possibility they are the Three who are known as the Dream Walkers. Three old men in robes are said to lead the Dream Walkers (of course, I don't know if any of what follows is fact but others have had a similar dream when seeing three old men in a dune/desert terrain) - The Dream Walkers are a dream society that are in the middle of a conflict with the Night Stalkers, or something of the sort, which is lead by the Old Lady/Dark Lady. Their intent is to bring nightmares to other people's dreams ( AKA dream sharing).

      Not to say that you should ever get involved with such a conflict, BUT it is still a possibility you dreamt about such men OR they are entities of another origin. Then, there is still the slight possibility that it was a dream and they were dream figures.

      Hypnotherapy is a wise suggestion, so long as the therapist is a spiritual person. Through hypnotherapy, you could ask the therapist to speak to your subconscious or perhaps attempt to bring your spirit guides to you and discuss about the Ancient Ones, the nurse/doctor, and your previous experiences.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MadHatter17 View Post
      Have you considered trying some sort of memory recall method for these particular dreams/hallucinations, such as hypnotherapy? Under hypnosis you can recall details you otherwise could not. In a hypnotic state you might be able to create a sketch of the robed men and of the doctor and nurse.
      no, but I have always wanted to allow my subcon to speak. I've always wanted to try hypnosis to get intouch with that area, but never found anyone I could fully trust that is professional.

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      If you're not schizophrenic or some other kind of insane OR using drugs, then you could be on to something here. I'm not trying to be mean or insulting. Just pointing out that mental illness and drugs cause all sorts of weirdness.

      That said, I think I may know more about what you have mentioned. Send me a PM if you want to talk about the Ancient Ones. (to PM click on my name, then select "send a Private Message to seeker28)
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      Hey good for you, really. I've personally recently lost interest in the spiritual side of things. My initial experiences with OBEs were very realistic, convincing, and just flat out almost euphoric in a sense. Slowly over time, instead of progressing, I seemed to be regressing. My experiences became more and more 'fake'. After a while I could no longer tell the difference between a regular dream and an OBE. I started to lose interest in that point. Eventually I was convinced that every lucid experience I was having was just a dream and nothing more. I wasn't getting anything out of them. Did I try? Yeah, I did, but it never lead to anything. I was searching for some sort of enlightenment that didn't seem to be there. Now I just don't care anymore. I still believe in the spiritual nature of things, but they seem so irrelevant in my life that... I just don't care anymore. I don't know if it's because of the lack experiences, maybe I just gave up. But I really just... lack the motivation.

      I'm actually beginning to think, maybe my whole "message" was to just forget about all of that, and not let it bother me, for now at least. To focus on what's around me, my life, the people in my life, because that's what is really important to me. Because now when thinking about that - I get a feeling inside of me that feels like "yeah... that's the truth".

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