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      Smile complete empathy

      Hello there! I’m not sure if I’m posting in the correct thread.. but well, here we go… It’s quite complicated to try to explain what is going on some nights when I go to bed, but I’ll do my best.

      Whatever it is that happens, it occurs just before falling asleep. I’m not asleep yet, neither completely awake. I just happen to find myself immersed in a different conscious state. The word I found to best describe this is “complete empathy”. This does not happen to me during the day, and it’s not something that I want to have. It might sound really crazy, but it’s like being in someone else’s body (human/animal) and experiencing the feelings they do. This feelings are usually negative, for example an animal being hit by a person, or a person having physical disabilities. I do not feel the physical pain, just their soul’s.

      I know this might sound crazy… I just wanted to know if someone has ever experienced something similar. Any comments will be welcome, including the ones that will send me to a psychiatrist

      Thanks!

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      I can expierience the same thing alot, i can feel sad just looking at an animal, or person. Hard to explain but you just know how their feeling, i guess it's a look thing, or a chemical thing. Sometimes i see a car accident on TV and feel sad for the car because it gets neglected, it's weird i mean it's JUST a car, no soul or anything but it's like it has 1 and i can feel it's emotional pain. Car amung other things.

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      Hi LucidFlanders,

      I’m not sure if we are talking about the same thing. I only get this feeling before falling asleep. I’m not fully awake or sleeping. I’m not fully aware of the feeling until I realize I’m safe in my bed and I have been feeling someone else’s feelings.

      Are we talking about the same? Have you heard about something like this?

      Thanks again.

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      You say you can feel their soul, i can feel their feelings. I'd say it's basically the same thing.

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      Firstly, why would you feel anything of someone that isn't near you? Someone you have no idea or understanding of. Etc.
      Secondly, you aren't likely to feel someone's feelings, thoughts or any such without intending to do so.
      And thirdly, the state between waking and sleep is called Hypnagogia and is accompanied by various hallucinations of all sorts, even vivid day dreams.

      So, aye, like I said, you won't do anything beyond the physical on accident. Without knowing how you've done it. That's not how it works.

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      You don't have to be near someone to feel something. It's called reflecting on a memory of something that happened earlier in the day. Say you hurt someones feelings, and you've had your feelings hurt (who hasn't), before you went to sleep your memory brought that up randomly and you can reflect on it just before you go to sleep. You can tell what people are meaning by body language, you can probably also tell what people are feeling by body langauge and whatever else it is.

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      Well, maybe Hypnagogia is a good answer to what happens to me, mixed with my everyday experiences.

      Thank you both!

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      It's a guess, don't take our word for it though. Although what was said is true in a matter of speaking.

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      Sure LucidFlanders... and any other opinions will be welcome.

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      Sometimes I feel sad about my cat or other animal when i look at it, but nothing happens to me at night. This is an interesting experience. Most importently do u think of the person or the animal when you have those feeling? And I agree with Merlock, that nothing beyound the physical can happen without wanting it or without knowing.

      edit: lol sorry corrected "physic" to "physical"
      Last edited by Shark Rider; 12-19-2007 at 08:01 PM.

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      Well I do think about them when I realize I'm feeling like the person. It's like I'm not myself, a dreamlike state, but not a dream.. and then I realize I'm in my bed (it's like being high)

      My English is really bad, haha. I'm having some difficulties with this: "nothing beyound the physic can happen without wanting it or without knowing."

      Would you please explain what are you meaning?

      Regards from Argentina.

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      Quote Originally Posted by southamerica26 View Post
      My English is really bad, haha. I'm having some difficulties with this: "nothing beyound the physic can happen without wanting it or without knowing."

      Would you please explain what are you meaning?

      Regards from Argentina.
      He rephrased me. And it's "beyond the physical", not "physic".

      So what it means is: unless you want to do something beyond the physical, such as empathy and whatnot, unless it's your initiative, then you are not likely to do it. It won't happen on accident.

      But there is also the chance that it could be done to you of course. But that also has restrictions: it won't happen unless the person doing it has a logical connection to you. Meaning, it'll happen if someone has a reason to communicate with you through telepathy, etc.

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      Empathy Dreaming

      This is how I came to your post....
      I woke this morning from a dream, I was trying to define what kind of feeling I was having throughout the dream when I thought about it after waking. I came up with "Empathy Dreaming", so I typed that into a Google search box, and it lead me here.
      "complete empathy" Describes it best. And you are right, empathy is something that can be sort of a curse in it's own nature. To feel other pain, or their Soul, I believe is a gift, but also a burden. and when we find ourselves experiencing this in our dreams, it can sometimes be scary. In my empathy dreaming, I am always in third person., seeing myself, but at the same time actively taking a part in what I am seeing. Being able to move freely throughout my dream, and being able to help, or control the outcome, or effect my environment. The empathy part plays a big role. It helps me understand the complex charters in my dream, and why they are doing the things they are doing. Some time what they are doing scares the hell out of me, but in that case, the emotion that follows is usually fear, and survival. In most cases I do not want to "understand" these strangers in my dreams, I want to run away, or go somewhere else.
      It is the "Empathy" that pulls me in, and I face them no, talk to them, and teach them.
      I do agree that while this is going on, it is an odd experience's to dream this way, but now I look at it like an adventure, and don't think myself crazy.

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      Hypnagagia is a great answer if all your looking for is a nice pat, "scientific" answer. If that's all you need then cool - you're done. However, if you feel like there may be something more to it than that, let me offer you an alternative:

      The Dreamtime is an in-between place between our physical world and an alternate reality that has very deep and complicated implications. This alternate reaility has been called many things; Spirit Realm, Dream World, The Nagual...

      People who may have a natural affinity for empathy or other psychic connections will often experience those things just as the begin to enter into the Dreamtime because the control and supression they assert over those abilities in waking life slip. Science has termed this "Hynpagagia" because they can't quanitify the spiritual implications of it.

      Those who have strong, but latent psychic abilities are like a radio without numbers on their tuning knob. They pick things up but have no idea where from.

      As they develop their abilities, they begin to be able to paint numbers on the knob for future reference so that they can "tune in" to that "station" again any time they want.

      In your case, you may be experiencing a surge in your own psychic abilities and just haven't figured out how to control it or use it.

      Here's the thing about psychic abilities: if you don't want them or believe in them, relax, they'll go away. They're like muscles - "use 'em or lose 'em."
      Be yourself - everyone else is taken.

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      Quote Originally Posted by saxonharp View Post
      Hypnagagia is a great answer if all your looking for is a nice pat, "scientific" answer. If that's all you need then cool - you're done. However, if you feel like there may be something more to it than that, let me offer you an alternative:

      The Dreamtime is an in-between place between our physical world and an alternate reality that has very deep and complicated implications. This alternate reaility has been called many things; Spirit Realm, Dream World, The Nagual...

      People who may have a natural affinity for empathy or other psychic connections will often experience those things just as the begin to enter into the Dreamtime because the control and supression they assert over those abilities in waking life slip. Science has termed this "Hynpagagia" because they can't quanitify the spiritual implications of it.

      Those who have strong, but latent psychic abilities are like a radio without numbers on their tuning knob. They pick things up but have no idea where from.

      As they develop their abilities, they begin to be able to paint numbers on the knob for future reference so that they can "tune in" to that "station" again any time they want.

      In your case, you may be experiencing a surge in your own psychic abilities and just haven't figured out how to control it or use it.

      Here's the thing about psychic abilities: if you don't want them or believe in them, relax, they'll go away. They're like muscles - "use 'em or lose 'em."
      Woah, you are sharp! Very well put. And very helpful!

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