Lucid Meditation?

Dont know if this has been addressed or not, or if it even belongs here. I have been curious about Lucid Meditation for a long time, yet have never been able to find real info on it. Basically what I am talking about is having a Lucid Dream while Meditating, being awake and aware of making yourself go into a lucid state of mind. Having the control and everything you could have in a Lucid Dream, but being awake and inducing it through meditation. If this type of thing is possible, whats it called, and how is it practiced? Also if learned, would it be bad to do it everyday, as well as inducing Lucid Dreaming? Sorry for all the questions about something that might not even be possible, but if it is possible, atleast all the questions are already there. Thanks guys/gals.

I have actually managed to do this before. However, I can only do it when I am feeling light-headed or like I am going to faint. I wouldn't reccommend trying it.

Well Ive gotten pretty deep into different types of meditation, found this one place that basically makes it so that its just your own type of meditation. Not one where you have to follow values, or religion, or philosophy to enjoy the full benefits of the meditation. And Ive been practicing meditating, and even though I have just started really practicing it, I started to see something the other day, but it wasnt clear and I figured it wasnt anything special, so I let it go, considered it a distraction since I didnt know how to explore it or anything.

Know it doesnt have to do with meditation, but Ive heard there are a few herbs that will cause hallucinations without causing damage to the brain. I know there is DMT, which from what I hear will make you have some extremely wicked lucid visions and youre able to remember what you see, and explore a universe. Just wondering if anyone has ever tried any herbs and had success with it? Or is that something that isnt practiced here?

We don't really talk about hallucinogenics here anymore, due to forum policy. Just because it tends to go from experiences to endorsement, which is bad.

I've tried two main types of meditation. In this first, I simply clear my mind and wait. Nothing happens, but its not boring. I drift into a peaceful abyss until I wake up. The second meditation is where I acknowledge my surroundings, set them aside, and focus on consciousness. I suggest this type for you, as it yields insightful results. Not necessarily visions, but thoughts (if you want visions, go try lucid hypnogogia).

What about meditating during a lucid dream...? I wonder what would happen then?

Sorry about bringing up the hallucinogens, wont do it again. I have never heard of lucid hypnogogia, about to look it up. Thanks for the reply.

From my experience, I find that deep meditation, trance induction, and WILD are all pretty much the same thing. The same techniques you use to WILD can be used without REM to enter into a deep trance state. If you have ever tried to WILD when first going to bed, or during a nap when your body just would not enter REM, you know what I mean.

I am assuming that you mean a technique separate from WILD, or afternoon nap WILD. Its hard to tell from your original post.

"The second meditation is where I acknowledge my surroundings, set them aside, and focus on consciousness. I suggest this type for you, as it yields insightful results. Not necessarily visions, but thoughts (if you want visions, go try lucid hypnogogia)."

Thats a type of meditation? Are there more specifics to this?

I actually tried lucid meditation once, and it was much easier than doing it while awake. WHile awake, it's hard to concentrate and keep the mind from wandering. In my lucid meditation, there was a wind that would grow stronger the deeper I went into a meditative state. So I had instant feedback to what I was doing. Plus I could put my thought aside and just concentrate on the wind.

What about meditating once in a lucid dream?

Meditation is lucid by its definition.

What is being described here is what some Traditional Native American spiritualist call "journeying."

It is in essence consciously entering the same level of being that is accessed through dreaming.

In this state of being, it is possible to reach out to and communicate with your Spirit Allies (angels, guardians, protectors, totems, light beings, etc.), Benefactor (higher self), the Ancestors (deceased), and the not-yet-born.

In this state it is possible to Astral Project (AP)and have Out of Body Exeriences (OBEs). You gain access to a plane that exists without space or time and therefore have the ability to go anywhere and anywhen - with practice.

All of the posts I've read in this string up to this point are indicative of early exposure to this realm of being.

I mentioned the Native American path only because that happens to be my point of reference. However, other religious and spiritual paths do the same thing; Buhddism, Taoism, Yogism... they are all about extending the consciousness beyond this plane of existence into a realm where all things are possible.

You can learn this on your own, but it's like trying to learn to drive a car just by looking at it.

If this is something that is of interest to you, consider seeking out an instructor/teacher/mentor. I doubt you will regret the decision.

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Originally Posted by MadHatter17

"The second meditation is where I acknowledge my surroundings, set them aside, and focus on consciousness. I suggest this type for you, as it yields insightful results. Not necessarily visions, but thoughts (if you want visions, go try lucid hypnogogia)."

Thats a type of meditation? Are there more specifics to this?

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I read an article about people who lay back, relax, and focus (consciously) on hypnogogia. I can't remember much more than that (I was way more interested in lucid dreaming than just watching hypnogogia!). It sounded to me like a WILD, but the goal is just HI.

Ahh, finally a phrase coined. I've managed to do this a couple of times, but I just passed it off as an extreme lucid dream. I was completely conscious of both worlds, My radio was playing and I could hear the music and wake up whenever I felt like it, but I was also in an immense state of lucidity.

To do this, after I wake up in the morning from a relaxing nights sleep, maybe after a lucid dream, I would go lie somewhere else with some white noise, such as a radio or tv, and I would lay in an uncomfortable sleeping position. For me, this was on my back with my arms above my head, since I sleep on my stomach. Don't try to go to sleep, instead focus on entering straight into the dream world, and like a nap, it's very easy to just slip right back into REM sleep and a state of lucidity. If you focus on both worlds, you can maintain it for some time. And, if you happen to come out of it, just reset and go right back, it's really invigorating.

Hope this helps.

I think dreaming and meditation are very close to being the same thing. meditation is just more focused. I meditate a lot in my lucid dreams. Its much easier than going from awake to meditation. although wilds are much the same thing. If you have not tried a wild then give it a try. It is hard at first but very rewarding. I'm currently trying to access the akashic records in my dream/meditations. :) call me crazy I don't care.

Hey Mikekan,

Accessing the akashic records might be rather difficult through lucid dreaming or meditation. But, one method that may prove more successful would be astral projections. They are hard to do, and personally, I've never tried them, but they require a lot more dedication and devotion than lucid dreaming. But you seem like an aspiring, interested individual, so maybe you'll be willing to take on the task. Good luck!:D