Originally Posted by pj
Does it really need deciphering, or are you just conditioned to believe so?
What's wrong with just experiencing it without the analysis or attempt to extract meaning in terms of our socialization and learned thinking processes?
The profound does not presuppose meaning. It does speak to multiple (and, likely, infinite) ways to experience and perceive. It is my own stubborn mind that keeps insisting on translating experience and perception into lingual terms.
I don't believe it is necessary. In fact, I believe it is stifling.
No, I guess it doesn't need to be deciphered. What it seems like is that every day if I choose to look, that I am conditioned to believe most things.
Originally Posted by TJoe
Out of all that you experienced, I think this is what stuck out the most for me. It's interesting because I recently subscribed to a new publication that's out called Super Consciousness (I think I might have mentioned it to you before). Anyway, this issue deals entirely with time; what it is scientifically, how we perceive it as humans, how it differs from culture to culture, etc. There are some very interesting theories and discoveries regarding time and, from what I've gathered so far, it could be that you were literally experiencing being "in the moment".
Some believe that time is a human construct to place order in events. As if everything that has happened and will happen is already on this long thread - we are simply shifting our focus along this thread and experience only portions our consciousness is focused on. Like using a flashlight. Not saying that our lives are already planned out. All possibilities exist simultaneously, we are either guided or chose our path.
I think you did mention it. It just was a little deep to discuss when not in person.
So everything considered, as I woke for a brief period I experienced consciousness absent of ego, time, bias or conditioning.
What do you think guys?
If that was the taste it was shameful that I was afraid. Because I had never known this before. Similar to SP for the first time but more profound.
Stifling. Yes. I agree. It is my own maddening search for answers that keeps me from finding it. So I try to convey a profound experience in words. I guess to try to extract a meaning. To label it? categorize "it"
it not needing "presupposed meaning". I truly can conceive this entire idea. I have been reading and thinking about it for a good time now. Maybe I will have to drop it to get it?
Intersting stuff that it is.
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