Thread: Dream Memories

Originally Posted by Interested1

Okay, this may seem like a weird question. But I am just now realizing the power of LD's. I'm hoping some of you who are more educated on the subject than I, will be able to shed some light or give some guidance...or I don't know what. Confirm, maybe?

Often, in my dreams I'll remember something from another dream...like it was reality. I'll be talking to someone and they'll be talking about something that I/we did a while back and I'll remember it as though it was something that happened in waking life. I recently had a DC remind me of something I had done quite a while back and then tell me that he, "had been watching me off and on for a while...didn't I know?"

It just makes me question, even more, the reality of what happens in a DS. Is it much more real than we think? Is it truly another world that only our subconcious mind is aware of?

I don't have any concrete proof to give you, but I have had some weird things that have made me wonder about this. Like dreams of the future.
There are lots of theories about the dream world, from that it's private to the person to that it's a whole new dimension where our spiritual bodies go when we sleep. Assuming the latter is true, that leaves possibilities for shared dreaming, shared lucid dreaming, and invading other people's thoughts, and psychic powers etc.

But you probably knew that.

Originally Posted by Interested1

Okay, this may seem like a weird question. But I am just now realizing the power of LD's. I'm hoping some of you who are more educated on the subject than I, will be able to shed some light or give some guidance...or I don't know what. Confirm, maybe?

Often, in my dreams I'll remember something from another dream...like it was reality. I'll be talking to someone and they'll be talking about something that I/we did a while back and I'll remember it as though it was something that happened in waking life. I recently had a DC remind me of something I had done quite a while back and then tell me that he, "had been watching me off and on for a while...didn't I know?"

It just makes me question, even more, the reality of what happens in a DS. Is it much more real than we think? Is it truly another world that only our subconcious mind is aware of?

Well, you saw my post on the Nagual and what the Dreamtime is to me. Now, add to that my belief in Spirit Guides and Spiritual Allies that you can interact with during the Dreamtime and what you are describing takes on a very real hue.

As I've said before, we are no more real than dreams and dreams are no less real than we.

Just because our physical bodies sleep, doesn't mean our spiritual selves do. What do you think keeps the spiritual self occupied while the body is down for recharge?

Those who are in touch with their spiritual self can use the Dreamtime for growth and development. It is easier to interact with our Allies and Benefactor in the Dreamtime, so lucidity becomes that much more important.

Sorry, I'm babbling incoherently....

IMHO: What you experienced, not just in this dream, but probably many others (thus "memory") is communication with an Ally. That Ally may have been your Benefactor, or it may have been just one of the many you have keeping watch over you and helping you along your path.

Next time you fell like you're "remembering" something in a dream, let that be a clue to you that you are dreaming and drop into a DILD. Once there, consciously seek out your Benefactor.

This is your main and most influential Spirit Ally. Some call it the "higher self".
Ask them what you need to know, what you need to do, and how to do it. That will be what are called "your original instructions."

Your original instructions are the purpose you were put on this plane - the task or duty you agreed to before you incarnated.

Seek this being everytime you go into a LD and always seek advice and help.

Man... I'm still rambling.... I guess it's kind of apparant this topic strikes a chord with me.

Anyway, I could literally go on for days about this, so I'll stop now. If you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to share more.

You know, all of that strikes a chord with me too. I guess my issue is that, being a Christian...there are a lot of aspects that are taboo. I really feel that the abilities I have and the lifelong draw to things of the supernatural are a gift from God. And I need to find a way to fit these gifts into a Christ like lifestyle. A life that honors the Lord, but utilizes the gifts that he's given me. We all have gifts...it's such a shame to let them go to waste.

Many things that deal with the supernatural are forbidden and freaked out about by the church...but it's always confused me since the Trinity is a supernatural being. I guess I need to delve into this with His guidance and direction...and remember to ask Him in my dreams to show me what and who he has for me to learn and learn from and what it is that He has for me to accomplish during my time on earth. I guess I always associated AP's and OBE's with our souls...but I never really gave LD's the proper thought or credit they were due.

Perhaps it really is a gaurdian angel watching over and protecting me and trying to lead me to a place of higher knowledge and understanding of my lifes purpose...as you can see, it's my turn to ramble on incoherently.

Saxonharp, you give me a lot to think and pray about. I really do love your insight into these things. I did read your post about the Nagual, but I posted this question before I had read your response...so I already had a confirmation of what I felt to be true. Now I need to wrap my head around the reality that my body needs sleep and my soul doesn't. My soul needs constant guardianship...and I need to be aligned with that guardian in order to clearly see my path. My soul is always busy learning and doing. Hmmm, more babbling...sorry

Originally Posted by Interested1

You know, all of that strikes a chord with me too. I guess my issue is that, being a Christian...there are a lot of aspects that are taboo. I really feel that the abilities I have and the lifelong draw to things of the supernatural are a gift from God. And I need to find a way to fit these gifts into a Christ like lifestyle. A life that honors the Lord, but utilizes the gifts that he's given me. We all have gifts...it's such a shame to let them go to waste.

Many things that deal with the supernatural are forbidden and freaked out about by the church...but it's always confused me since the Trinity is a supernatural being. I guess I need to delve into this with His guidance and direction...and remember to ask Him in my dreams to show me what and who he has for me to learn and learn from and what it is that He has for me to accomplish during my time on earth. I guess I always associated AP's and OBE's with our souls...but I never really gave LD's the proper thought or credit they were due.

Perhaps it really is a gaurdian angel watching over and protecting me and trying to lead me to a place of higher knowledge and understanding of my lifes purpose...as you can see, it's my turn to ramble on incoherently.

Saxonharp, you give me a lot to think and pray about. I really do love your insight into these things. I did read your post about the Nagual, but I posted this question before I had read your response...so I already had a confirmation of what I felt to be true. Now I need to wrap my head around the reality that my body needs sleep and my soul doesn't. My soul needs constant guardianship...and I need to be aligned with that guardian in order to clearly see my path. My soul is always busy learning and doing. Hmmm, more babbling...sorry

What you are experiencing does not in any way conflict with a Christian belief system. Christianity's history is full of people who have been given extraodinary abilities by God and is one of the most well-documented religions in the world on the appearance and intervention of Angels on His behalf for the benefit of people.

Whether you use the word "God" or "Nagual" doesn't matter. We're talking about the same thing. And whether you use the term "Spirit Guide" or "Guardian Angel" doesn't change what they are or their intentions or abilities. To quote Juliet, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

As long you practice what your Heart tells you is Truth, then you are living congruently and God will recognize that. I've never met a Priest, Pastor, or Minister that would argue with that point.

As for Taboos, unfortunately, too many clergymen have been raised and taught to think that they are the only intermediary between God and the People. Their Pride prejudices them to think that no one could have a closer connection or more personal connection to God than themselves and so when someone comes to them and says, "God has given me a vision," they immediately call the guys with the canvas jackets with the eight foot long wrap-around sleeves.

Many sects of Christianity recognize individuals specially touched by God as Prophets and Seers. They are honored as they should be. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is one of these sects as are some Church of Christ ministries.

Don't let what God has gifted you with keep you from having a relationship with Him. Don't let religions created by people to define their experiences with God dictate what your's should be.

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you"

Mitaque Oyasin,
Mato Kinze

You're absolutely right. Thank you!

I actually come from a Pentecostal background...it's very charasmatic and closed minded at the same time. I attend a Fellowship now, and they are very good at recognizing spiritual gifts...I just have to un-learn every un-true thing I have ever been taught. Re-teaching just takes a little time...

Thank you, again

Hey Saxonharp, just one more thing I actually would love to hear/learn more about the dreamworld; what it is and what it can be. I would love to learn more about focusing my dreams.

I am learning to have a little control in my dreams...I think of it more as self control, since my own actions and responses are all I have tried to dictate. I haven't really tried or have a whole lot of desire to totally manipulate the dream to my liking. I almost feel like I would or could miss out on something if I didn't take the course that was set before me. What do you think of it? Is there a benefit to manipulating the dreamscape or to allowing the dreamscape to take it's own shape?

Originally Posted by Interested1

Okay, this may seem like a weird question. But I am just now realizing the power of LD's. I'm hoping some of you who are more educated on the subject than I, will be able to shed some light or give some guidance...or I don't know what. Confirm, maybe?

Often, in my dreams I'll remember something from another dream...like it was reality. I'll be talking to someone and they'll be talking about something that I/we did a while back and I'll remember it as though it was something that happened in waking life. I recently had a DC remind me of something I had done quite a while back and then tell me that he, "had been watching me off and on for a while...didn't I know?"

It just makes me question, even more, the reality of what happens in a DS. Is it much more real than we think? Is it truly another world that only our subconcious mind is aware of?

I've had that too! I just remember something from another dream, then realise I'm dreaming.

Originally Posted by Interested1

Hey Saxonharp, just one more thing I actually would love to hear/learn more about the dreamworld; what it is and what it can be. I would love to learn more about focusing my dreams.

I am learning to have a little control in my dreams...I think of it more as self control, since my own actions and responses are all I have tried to dictate. I haven't really tried or have a whole lot of desire to totally manipulate the dream to my liking. I almost feel like I would or could miss out on something if I didn't take the course that was set before me. What do you think of it? Is there a benefit to manipulating the dreamscape or to allowing the dreamscape to take it's own shape?

I will come at this from my perspective and from my understanding of the Toltec and Lakhota traditions that I follow.

As I've said in other posts, the Dreamtime is sort of an inbetween place between the Spirit World and the Tonal World. When we dream, we enter a state that is in a higher vibrational state than we normally experience during waking hours. This makes it easier for us to communicate with Spirit and easier for Spirit to communicate with us.

During this state, our inhibitions and Tonal baggage that we carry around with us from day-to-day is lessened or discarded entirely and we can interact with our Spirit Guides fully and without self-imposed restriction.

Our Spirit Guides are with us all the time and we can access and interact with them whenever we want. We do this through prayer, meditation, or ceremony. But becasue the Dreamtime is a heightened state of being, we can interact with other aspects of Spirit that normally we would not have access to.

In this state we can interact with those who have crossed over - if they're willling - we can interact with past and even future incarnations of ourselves, and we can interact with all the forms that Spirit takes in the Nagual.

When you master LD, you can consciously seek out whatever Guide or Spiritual entity you choose. They may not answer, but you can always call out for them.

What I reccommended earlier was that, rather than trying to control every aspect of your dream, you simply sought out your primary Guide and let them tell you what needs to be done. After a while, your Guide will begin to introduce you to other helpers and allies in the Spirit World. Or, to put it in Christian terms, will bring other Angels to you for teaching.

When this happens, you are absolutely right not to try to control the dream, but simply to BE in the dream and receive the knowledge that they give you.

Lastly, even in the Spirit World the law of reciprocity holds. Anytime something is taken, something must be given. So every time your Guide or an Ally provides you with Knowledge, you must offer something in return. Usually, they will be quite forthcoming with what they want you to do or provide. Whatever it is, DO IT. Don't question, don't argue, be all "Nike" about it and "Just Do It!"

They will never ask you to do something that you can't or shouldn't. They always have your best interest in mind and will always support you to the extent that you need aid. It may not always be easy and it may not always be fun, but if you are impeccable in your actions and continue to live congruently, you - and everyone around you - will reap the benefits.

Remember also that you will get what you pray for. So be careful what you pray for. If you pray for stength, your strength will be tested. If you pray for understanding, you will get problems to solve.

I once prayed for Humility and Patience... BIG mistake. Two weeks later I was out of a job and unemployed for over nine months. Did I learn Humility? Yep. Did I learn patience? You betcha... "Ok... I GOT IT!" Trust me, I've learned to pray for Mercy, Grace and Compassion.

So, back to your original question... Sorry I deviated again... No, you don't need nor should you try to control every aspect of your dream. Simply seek out your Guide and let them take it from there.

I could learn so much from talking to you, and have! Thank you so much for your detailed answers and insight. You have no idea how much I appreciate your knowledge on the subject.

I will definately have to be careful of what I ask for. I often ask for Wisdom...but I'm starting to see where that could be more than I bargained for!

Thank you so much, Saxonharp, for all of your time

Timi

Originally Posted by Interested1

I could learn so much from talking to you, and have! Thank you so much for your detailed answers and insight. You have no idea how much I appreciate your knowledge on the subject.

I will definately have to be careful of what I ask for. I often ask for Wisdom...but I'm starting to see where that could be more than I bargained for!

Thank you so much, Saxonharp, for all of your time

Timi

Glad I could be service.

Best of luck in your following your Path.

Mitaque Oyasin,
Mato Kinze