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      OBEs: a thought.

      when you have an OBE, is it possible to 'will' yourself somewhere else? or must it always be in the place you are sleeping?


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      You can will yourself somewhere else.

      “Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are.”
      - Kurt Cobain (1967 – 1994)

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      Some people find that they can't just will themselves somewhere else, but must travel there such as flying. I think it depends on what astral plane you are at. The higher the plane the easier to teleport by thought.

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      oooh, interesting. I just think it would be wild to OBE and visit someone.


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
      oooh, interesting. I just think it would be wild to OBE and visit someone.
      Me first, me first! Just be careful, sometimes the dog craps on the rug!
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      no, sorry, Alec first.

      no one can see you OBEing right? it's all in your head, RIGHT?

      I guess it's like you're actually there, only not...like a ghost..hmm..


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
      no one can see you OBEing right? it's all in your head, RIGHT?
      Maybe...
      you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
      -gandhi

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      ahhhh...

      anyway I just think it would be really awsome...it's on my 'to do' list of things to do when I can lucid dream like a pro.


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      If you OBE, other people which are also OBEing can see you. Supposedly they see you with clothes and see you more as you see yourself, so that generally people see themselves as more attractive and leaner.

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      Originally posted by Dream-Master
      If you OBE, other people which are also OBEing can see you. Supposedly they see you with clothes and see you more as you see yourself, so that generally people see themselves as more attractive and leaner.
      Guess it's not a good idea to OBE in the nude..
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      it's just plain freaky wondering if it's really all in your head or not...


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      OBE NAKED! <---------awesome bumper sticker

      Um, when I OB, the only ones who can see me are three types
      1) ppl who r meditating
      2) ppl who are OBE, hehe, sometimes they snap back to their body if they're somewheres else
      3) ppl who are tripping beacause that's all a trip is

      It's all in your head, but keep in mind, so is your physical perception or reality, that can be easily broken

      And some ppl won't even look at your clothes. Masters of OBE and meditation look THROUGH you. This is something I can only kinda do. But what one looks at is how the soul is innerconnected to the universe, they see energy, not the physical manifestation of self. hehe, craziness.

      some ppl can supposedly even manipulate that energy. Chi is body energy. Ki is mind energy. I think Chi is the first one you see. Ki is almost mythical, legendary. Ki is like hyper telepathy i guess.
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      Originally posted by Blulanou42
      OBE NAKED! <---------awesome bumper sticker
      The only problem is, only 1% of the population would get the joke!
      you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
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      Originally posted by Blulanou42
      some ppl can supposedly even manipulate that energy. Chi is body energy. Ki is mind energy. I think Chi is the first one you see. Ki is almost mythical, legendary. Ki is like hyper telepathy i guess.
      Like Jean Grey and Professor Xavier... (X-Men 1 and 2 are two of my fave flicks!)

      Interesting that the comic book creators at Marvel designated them as two of the most powerful (human) superheroes.

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      I thibk it's in your head in thatyou can never by caught outside your body, bu tI think a conciusness energy does leave your body and enter a different plane.

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      That's a tough one to explain. Don't think we have the words for it... but I agree. It is "in your head" but where is "in your head"? It transcends the physical...

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      I dont think its up your head, then why call it Out of Body Experience..then call it in your head experience or something lol..

      No really..I dont know..i cant explain either..I just dont think its up your head
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      well think about it...
      Telekenisis is control of every atom in an object spanned over a time of seconds, the amount of power this requires is immense... this is due to the objects observable nature, you have to fight the will of everyone else around you, they say no that cant float, you say, yes it can, watch at the same time convinsing every atom in that object to do the same thing... A strong enough Telekinetic could transmutate matter, even disperse it! Granted he strong atomic forces are strong but if one had enough power... POOF it would be dangerous though, what if you got mad at somone and without thinking just created a Vacuum around their head?! I wouldent want to go out in public it would scare me eheh. A powerful telikinetic could have basically any of the other mutants powers if they figured out how to do it...

      Empaths/Telepaths on the scale of Dr. Xavier?... dear god... that is an even more amount of required power. in his case he could overrid the mind of another, taking complete control of another's spirit? I am not even going to get into the power nessesary to do something like that, overiding the spirits control of its host brain, thats is home turf so to speak for the other spirit and he could go in there and just take it over like it was his business... so yeah I would think they were pretty derned powerful...

      Wolverine is still the man though.
      "A knight is sworn to valor.
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      His wrath undoes the wicked."

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      Originally posted by Lucius
      I dont think its up your head, then why call it Out of Body Experience..then call it in your head experience or something lol..

      No really..I dont know..i cant explain either..I just dont think its up your head
      Yeah, that's a problem, but even the OBEs I have had are still on some sort of mental/psychic plane -not in the physical "real" realm -at least not directly...

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      Seri,
      Interesting thoughts on controlling every atom at the same time, you are essentially manipulating its momentum

      But riddle me this my friend:
      To move an them you would have to know the momentum of every atom and it's location at every instant.

      According to quantum theory you cannot know both at the same time.
      you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
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      damned uncertainty principle... forgot about that one hmm let me think

      Ok big object many atoms

      I will attribute knowing every atom to the enhanced awareness of the telekinetic, they are not actually observing the atoms.. they just know?

      PLOT HOLE!!!

      *falls in*

      crap......

      oh last night one of my coworkers.. he is old and has done.. and seen way too much he has been attacked by pirates and even raced in the cannonball run... gotten malaria in the amazon... he is a veritable book of weird stories, so he knows a woman that was telikinetic, she and her twin were very gifted and their link was very strong so much that they never had to call the other they just knew.. now whether or not all those stories are the rantings of an old crazy man I duno hehe just figured I would throw it in.
      "A knight is sworn to valor.
      His heart knows only virtue.
      His blade defends the helpless.
      His might upholds the weak.
      His word speaks only truth.
      His wrath undoes the wicked."

      Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined

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      That's why it is called quantum THEORY. The truth is simple, why do we persist on making it SOOOO complicated???.

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      But think about it, if just one atom gets knocked out of place, the telikinetic energy would cause an atomic explosion. Basicly, if anyone ever has altered matter with there mind, they're probably dead... Then again, the human brain is an amazing organ that generates a fair electromagnetic field, so I think you can only manipulate matter by working around the electrons in that item via the brain's electric field. If all the electrons move to one location, the necleus is bound to follow.

      P.,.S.,. Wasn't this forum supposed to be about OBEs?

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