Thread: Consider this a gift to you lots

Ask (be very clear on what you want)
Believe (Think like you already have it)
Receive (watch the magic happen)

Wishful thinking isn't enough. you have to actually do something to MAKE it happen.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

b slaps and bun icons or not, STICK to the rules clearly laid out in this forum.

I know... In fact I usually do, but phonix's attitude in his last post ticked me off, mocking anyone who didn't believe in "The Secret." I responded in kind (in lovely picture form, as well!)

I don't break the rules because I don't insult the religion or the fact that the person believes in it, I insult the moronic language/comments in the post.

...I don't believe that that breaks the rules, but sorry if you believe otherwise.

What the hell? I thought this thread would've died. What was it? Like 8 months I was away from this thread, well not going to post anything about the Secret atm, so I'm going to say this:

"When in doubt, MANGEKYU SHARINGAN!"

I think I kinda revived it...it was near the bottom of the page, and I posted.

LOL

Your not alone now, you think people expect that our post are spam? lol

What about people who have lets say testicular cancer. and they refuse to believe they have cancer "its just a normal lump" and they REALLY do believe this. and then from pain they go get it checked out and a year later there dead.
Your theory is floored, so very floored. and it is insulting to people who have lost friends and family. if it does exist, send us a picture when your on you 1000000quid boat with hot babes and gold teeth. then im gonna do some serious wishing and believeing

Why won't this thread ever die I wonder?

People just keep coming in and heaping manure on it like they get frequent flier miles for it or something?

(shaking my head)

If you don't believe the SECRET has merit or value, then that's wonderful for you.

Why malign people who do believe?

Live and let live.

ok, so this secret may be true to an extent and different degrees, but at the same time, why do we alway WANT things, isnt the real key to freedom not wanting things, letting go of all desires, even if you can manifest everything you want, arent you missing the point, the more you get, the more youl want, i believe also from experience that this is true to degrees, but for me takes too much mental energy, maybe im lazy, but i'd rather sit and watch a lake all day and find some peace of mind than try to manifest things all day, also it can bread fear into others, thinking they are missings out on something huge, but they are perfect how they are, and as far as love goes, i dont think it is a thing to manifest into your life, unconditional love is at the base of everything, even before this manifesting thing existed, imagine if all life/humans just relaxed and helped each other, in a simple way, no competition, no need for it, just sat and watched the moment, attaining things is all in vain in my point of view, because all is temporary and will pass eventually, im not saying dont enjoy and desire things, this cant be helped in our world now, but something about this secret thing just seems to agitate me, maybe its just me dont know, but i believe in truth, behind everything, we are everything, so why do we want everything, hmm, and this truth can only be seen when we stop wanting, i think it would be what the buddha was. anyway, this may have just been an energy release for me but if it makes sense thats cool!

This dosent work coz no matter how much I trick myself into thinking I have a iPhone I still dont have one... Where the hell is my iPhone? The universe sure is taking its time manifesting this one...

Originally Posted by Writermind

Why malign people who do believe?

Live and let live.

Beliefs are meant to be scrutinized, examined and even criticized.

Originally Posted by Nazzul

Beliefs are meant to be scrutinized, examined and even criticized.

Agreed, however to my mind I think that mostly applies to self.

Who better to examine and scrutinize the belief system than you?

After all, at the end of the day, you're the one who has to believe it...or not.

I actually don't even think there's anything wrong with writing that you don't agree with the Secret, but the level of animosity and juvenile replies exhibited in this particular thread went way over the top in my opinion.

Had I not believed in the Secret and found this thread, I, most likely, wouldn't have even bothered to post a comment at all because I'd rather focus my energy on learning more about things I do believe in.

What I noticed is that there were a lot of negative, mean-spirited, juvenile people who came into this thread for no other reason than to argue, not because they were seeking to understand.

As I've written many times in this thread, I believe the poster who made the thread had the purest of intentions and only wanted to share something he believed and was excited about, yet he was met at every turn by someone who figuaratively slapped him the face with negative comment after comment.

I reiterate, on a discussion board dedicated to the phenomena of perceiving other astral dimensions and the spirit/soul/mind actually leaving the physical body, I found it ludicrous that, of all things, the premise of the Secret would receive such a negative welcoming.

Takes all kinds I suppose.

I still believe in the Secret, but don't wish to argue with people about it either.

I'm just in awe that more worthy discussion topics have died long ago, yet this particular thread is not only still around, but still the target of silly wise cracks and random outbursts of negativity.

I'm a member of several discussion boards online and you can usually tell a lot about the type of people who post based on the topics and comments that keep getting bumped the most.

Perhaps I just over-estimated the maturity of this particular board.

Agreed, however to my mind I think that mostly applies to self.

Beliefs are what shape our actions and decisions for me beliefs affect everyone around you.

Who better to examine and scrutinize the belief system than you?

I agree however it is important to get other view points and even consider them within your own mind. It is not good to ignore other peoples experinces and ideas.

After all, at the end of the day, you're the one who has to believe it...or not.

True, just remember that these things that you believe do and will effect other people because of your actions or non action.

....the level of animosity and juvenile replies exhibited in this particular thread went way over the top in my opinion.

These are an anonymous board where anyone can post anything they want without real world repercussions. Juvenile behavior and general assholery is to be expected anywhere on the interent escpecially message boards. However there seemed to be many good retorts and responses in argument against the "secret".

I'd rather focus my energy on learning more about things I do believe in.

If we focus and use up all our energy on only things we believe then it will blind us of the other side of the argument.

I believe the poster who made the thread had the purest of intentions and only wanted to share something he believed and was excited about, yet he was met at every turn by someone who figuaratively slapped him the face with negative comment after comment.

I reiterate, on a discussion board dedicated to the phenomena of perceiving other astral dimensions and the spirit/soul/mind actually leaving the physical body, I found it ludicrous that, of all things, the premise of the Secret would receive such a negative welcoming.

The OP was selling his idea. We all do this if when we want to change someones lifestyle or even selling an exercise plan. The title said "Considerd this a gift to you lots" that just seems a little condecending if not out right arrogant. Not a very good first impression thats for sure. Of course some are going to be a little insulted from his posts. If your going to try to sell us on this "secret" dont state it like oooooh look I have a secret and ill let all you riff raff in on it look heres some info and heres the book you can buy. But I digress. Trying to sell something and change someones entire outlook on life is going to be questioned and scrutinized if your trying to sell me a faulty product then it is important no duty to warn people of the dangers of such a change.

I'm just in awe that more worthy discussion topics have died long ago, yet this particular thread is not only still around, but still the target of silly wise cracks and random outbursts of negativity.

I'm a member of several discussion boards online and you can usually tell a lot about the type of people who post based on the topics and comments that keep getting bumped the most.

Perhaps I just over-estimated the maturity of this particular board.

This board is a little more skeptical than even I would assume. I did not know how old this thread was when I first posted however it just seems that your ignoring the good arguments that have come from this disscussion. It could just be my point of view though.

Originally Posted by Nazzul

Beliefs are meant to be scrutinized, examined and even criticized.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! THIS CANNOT BE!

I don't believe that the law of attraction is something real that causes the universe and destiny or whatever you think it is to cause good things to happen to you. That's just a bunch of bull. But I believe that the power of positive thinking and affirmations is huge. If you say things enough like "someday I'm going to do this." then the universe isn't going to 'rearrange' itself to help you out in it. Your subconcious will just find a way of making you make the right decisions to be in the right place at the right time to be able to do whatever it is that you wanted to do. It's not a scientific law. It's all you. But that's fine. It doesn't matter what it is. As long as you stay positive and do all the things that the "law" tells you to do, then things will work out either way.

this is, indeed one of the most interesting posts I have ever read on Dreamviews.
Bravo

I've known The Secret for a few years now.... Watched the movie on it.
I wouldn't have a wii without it.

I thought this thread died?????? wtf!

Anyway, I apologize for my past actions and if I annoyed anyone. I'm just gonin to be more diplomatic. Ok the LOA helps some people but not others, because it'sseen as NOT GOING TO WORK through LACK OF BELIEF. Yes, you DO have to ACT upon your DESIRES that very important, sorry if I missed that out.

However, I'm very happy to see that I have helped some people. I don't want to start agruments on this forum be between anyone. If you don't believe in it thats ok, if you have your own veiws on it that's ok, if you believe in it thats ok.

In other words, lets just leave this once and for all, people all have there own views on this world and as much as I hate to admit it: No one will know the truth untill the day they die...

So untill that day comes, lets just be friends and just settle for watever anyone believes. Thats the first step to making the world a better place...