Thread: Are OBE's healthy?

Seeing that OBE is probably just an LD theme, I would say no.

Hey Cryptic,

You can OBE without darkness. In fact, I prefer to OBE during the day. Don't let your beliefs keep you from going forward.

lol, yes listen to transflux.

Half of my OBE's come from when its daylight outside.

Saying you cant because of something like that is really humorous though.

Originally Posted by C911

lol, yes listen to transflux.

Half of my OBE's come from when its daylight outside.

Saying you cant because of something like that is really humorous though.

lol I will try once more

Do OBE's really hurt you? They especially might if you really leave your body.

Things can happen, but if you don't do anything wrong, they are perfectally fine.

And if you are going to tell me OBEs are really just LDs, please go to some other forum.

Here is a good AP tut, if that is what you want: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=44182

^C911 is God.

I tried to AP last night...the first time I almost did it but chickened out and snapped back to full awakeness...the second time it didn't work...

The third time I got to the "ready to fall through the bed phase" but when I tried to go further I got a pain in the vein that runs along your left arm, right on the inside of my left elbow. The entire patch of vein hurt and tingled..but it HURT. And the pain got worse the more I tried to exit my body and cross the threshhold...the pain wasn't made up, and it actually still hurt after I snapped back to full awareness/awakeness. Like, I was actually rubbing my arm for the pain until it subsided a little while later.

Help? I don't want that to happen again, and also would be interested in any explanation of the pain.

Thank you very much.

My guess would be that the pain was really in your mind, in that your body was testing to see if you were still awake, and your concious direction twards it made it unable to leave your body.

You have to be able to let go of all feelings, and not let your mind cross paths with the thoughts of them.

Oh, and yes i am double posting, whatever.

AP can be very dangerous. Basically though, do one to others as you want done to you.

So in english terms, dont do shit to people or beings or demons or w/e, without expecting the same or even worse things to happen to you.

Originally Posted by C911

My guess would be that the pain was really in your mind, in that your body was testing to see if you were still awake, and your concious direction twards it made it unable to leave your body.

You have to be able to let go of all feelings, and not let your mind cross paths with the thoughts of them.

K thx I'll try again when I go to bed pretty soon.

Originally Posted by C911

Oh, and yes i am double posting, whatever.

AP can be very dangerous. Basically though, do one to others as you want done to you.

So in english terms, dont do shit to people or beings or demons or w/e, without expecting the same or even worse things to happen to you.

lol im just tryin 2 learn the basics, demons r 4 level 2

Well it sometimes hurts. And obviously it requires quite a lot of raw vital energy which is, at least partly, supposed to dissipate during separation. I wouldn't say though it's not healthy, because it obviously increases your body's ability to accumulate, circulate and store more energy. It will improve the lateral and vertical integrity of your consciousness, too. And don't forget, that you can also heal yourself in OBE.

But I guess it can be very unhealthy if done too aggressively. I'm not a big fan of playing with vibrations, ripping those elastic threads during separation, flying around power lines too much or having sex with strangers. But the fact is I haven't been sick since I started OBEing back in 1997. Not even with flu, seriously.

Cool. Maybe using your astral/spirit body heals you...?

I'm not sure. I guess successful OBE attempts are like doing qi gong or something. You even feel the problematic areas in your body highlighted during the vibrational state. Seems like once identified the body heals them automatically.

But not having been ill for a long time doesn't mean that my health is perfect. Some things never will be the same again. The body slowly deteriorates and there is nothing we can do about that.