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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      Please provide a link to one peer-reviewed paper that says there's something going on.
      Will you just go away. Any respected scientist who lends his name to something of that nature gets ostracized by the community. Nobody is willing to risk their career on something like that. And any "peers" in a field of study like that wouldn't be taken seriously to begin with, so what you're asking is an impossibility.

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      i cant see a thing now when i try to see the new object, not a single detail, should i learn remote prescence instead and see if that works better? or should i read up more on RV because i havent looked right into it that much

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      Could you repost the picture of your first object? It isn't working for me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by edsq View Post
      Could you repost the picture of your first object? It isn't working for me.
      It's a red-painted Chinese dragon made of stone but looks as if it could be made of plastic. The scales look more like bumps than scales.

      Maybe you can picture it
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      This is a great idea, Cusp. I wonder if we could set something like this as a monthly dreaming task. It would be interesting to see what people come up with when they peek under your bed in their dreams.

      I know I've seen such experiments set up on other forums. We have so many skeptics here, I'm sure there would be some backlash.

      I will try this tonight with both image streaming and dreaming.

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      So to recap, we currently have two targets. Something beneath my bed, and something beneath Sandform's bed. If someone wants to put out a target object for me, I could use the practice.

      Try to describe the objects but not guess what they are. If you have an image in you head of what you think it is, you're doing it wrong. It's important to learn to recognize when you're doing that, and to try to avoid any description that comes from it.

      So PM me with descriptions of what's under my bed, and PM Sandform (http://www.dreamviews.com/community/member.php?u=12358) with descriptions of what's under his.


      And here's pic of that measuring tape in case anyone cares. Turns out there was a bit of silver on in, right at the end of the tape.

      Quote Originally Posted by Ryuinfinity View Post
      It is green... Silver? Moderately big. LIke a computer tower in size. Wait. WTF? YELLOW?! My mind just told me yellow. Oh well. I think it's made mainly of plastic. Some metal. Smooth, but not incredibly so. Relatively rough.
      Last edited by The Cusp; 12-02-2008 at 06:31 PM.

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      could anyone provide a link to an article on how to remote view because i havent found any good ones yet.

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      I wasn't sure if there was a new object yet, but while sitting here reading I saw an image in my head to I PMed it. I might have only seen it because I am half asleep but I posted it anyway.

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      Under my Bed: results of second attempt

      This one didn't go well at all. I mean nobody was even close! It was a fuzzy red christmas stocking with a thick white band on the top.

      Here's what people sent me:

      Quote Originally Posted by benTENDO
      When reading the post all my mind showed me was a spherical object which was green.
      Quote Originally Posted by WakataDreamer
      The entire object is dark blue, it is elliptical, possibly inflatable (?) and has numerous projections on its top.

      It is made of rubber or some other material very much like rubber (a soft plastic?).
      Quote Originally Posted by WakataDreamer
      Second attempt-

      An object like a broom, wooden and sticky (not jelly sticky, sticky as in having stick-like bristles at one end).
      Quote Originally Posted by slash112
      black, smoth surface, but not smooth edges i think, kind of sharpish edges (as in not curved smooth ones), and for some reason i think its metal, at least some or most. and im not sure about the shape.
      Not a single thing that could have been even remotely close. I really should have provided some links on how to do this, or given more detailed tips on how to go about it. I'll get on that.

      So now the christmas stocking is gone, replaced by a new mystery item. Keep those descriptions coming!

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      I was way off
      I'll try and concentrate next time instead of saying anything that just comes to mind
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      Then you'll see, that it is not the dream that bends, it is only yourself.

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      Quote Originally Posted by benTENDO View Post
      I was way off
      I'll try and concentrate next time instead of saying anything that just comes to mind
      haha ye i think thats what i was doing aswell.

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      No, but if I take those who got it right, and see if they are able to do it consistently, then we'll be getting somewhere!

      So here are the descriptions I got. I'm a little disappointed so few people tried.







      and here is what was hiding under my bed


      I was hoping for more descriptions, but that an OK start. As you can see, everyone mentioned the main color red. Licity got all the colors, even the gray of the dust on it. For a first try, I think those guys did pretty good.

      Any single description by it's self is kind of useless, but when you several that are saying the same thing, it's a pretty good indication you're on the right track.

      Sandform's Target

      Anyways, Sandform tells me he's placed something underneath his bed now, so try that as the next target, and send your results to him. I'll get him to post them here in a few days to give to give more people a shot at it.

      Under my bed
      And I also placed something new under my bed as well for anyone who wants to try that one as well. Message me with those descriptions.
      LOL, that's kind of weird. I have the exact same thing sitting on my computer desk.

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      Quote Originally Posted by benTENDO View Post
      I was way off
      I'll try and concentrate next time instead of saying anything that just comes to mind
      Quote Originally Posted by slash112 View Post
      haha ye i think thats what i was doing aswell.
      If the first thing that pops into your mind is a fully formed image, a complete object that you can name, it's wrong. Likewise if you lock onto the first impression you get and develop it until you have full fledged object you can name, wrong again. All you end up doing is making up detail to match your guess.

      The only explanation I can come up with of how RV works is my second rule of dreaming, with the assumption that life is just a dream. It may sound outlandish, but it's an absolute truth in dreaming, and applies more often than not to the waking world as well.

      The more attention you give something, the more related detail it will create

      If you focus on a random guess, all you will do is create detail to that specific guess.

      If you can manage to focus on your target without actually naming it or having an actual image of it (which is the tricky part), you should end up with detail related to that target.

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      Man I was off! I got the circular thing kinda... Since the dragon had round bumps...

      If I had noticed that there was a second try, I would have attempted. Sorry, I missed it.

      Gonna do another one?
      Bollocks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
      Man I was off! I got the circular thing kinda... Since the dragon had round bumps...

      If I had noticed that there was a second try, I would have attempted. Sorry, I missed it.

      Gonna do another one?
      Yeah, of course! There will pretty much always be something under my bed, so try at any time.

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      If anyone is interested, I have an item under my bed now. Send me a PM with a description if you feel like trying.

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      Hey, Cusp and Licity... You gonna tell us what was under your bed?
      Bollocks.

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      I have only received one guess, but...

      there wasn't anything under my bed. My mattress touches the floor directly, so there isn't even a space to store something.

      The guesses were pretty interesting:

      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan
      A nudy mag.
      Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus
      heart-shaped, and made of cloth.
      My original intent was to see what would be seen if you were looking for something that wasn't there, but I didn't get enough input.

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      Ah... tricky licity...
      Bollocks.

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      Maybe that's why you didn't get a lot of replies. Everyone who did the task saw nothing and just assumed it wasn't working hehe

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      There is a nudy mag, whether he admits it or not.

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      Wait a sec licity, delphinus said it was heart shaped right? I'm assuming he RV'd the SHEETs. Just a guess.
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