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Do you know this for a fact? Just curious... You just describe it as surely as though you had read it in an encyclopedia. Where did you hear this?
I’ve been doing some research, and have come across two terms that are often mixed up, “astral” and “etheric.” I’m laying the definitions down here, once and for all:
Astral refers to the Astral Planes, other planes of reality. When you astral project, you force your astral body (also known as your spirit body, some claim it to be your soul) out of your physical body, which is then put into an unconscious state as you, in your astral body, are dimensionally shifted to be in the astral planes, which are sort of like different levels of a parallel universe that is accessed when in your astral body. It is said to be a bright, white, light-filled place, full of spiritual entities (claimed by some to be “angels” and “demons”).
Etheric refers to when one forces their etheric body (also known as the soul, very similar to astral projection but without the dimensional/planar shift) out of the physical body. This leaves the person able to amble/float/fly about the physical plane (this world, not another dimension) as a soul, invisible to all but other souls (or other etheric entities disregarding souls in specific, if you believe there to be more kinds of things out there).
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May people have been mixing these up, claiming to have astral projected and gone into their backyard as a soul and seen their dog chasing a squirrel or something like that, and when they snapped back into their physical body and went into their backyard their dog was indeed chasing that squirrel.
That’s not AP’ing, folks. That’s etheric projection, and it’s a whole ‘nother Shakespeare. :whistle:
So please, try to not get them mixed up! :wink:
It helps understanding a bit in this section if people can properly identify what they are meaning to express! :)
(PS: If any of you out there have a good etheric projection method (not astral!) please post here for the good of the community (nvm that its called "Esoteric Methods" I meant to type etheric :P). Thanks!)
The intended thread post. :whistle:
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I would rather just call it Out of Body than Esoteric.
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Grammar Nazi says that you must include "projection" for your definitions to be true. A more correct definition of esoteric is:
es⋅o⋅ter⋅ic
–adjective 1. understood by or meant for only the select few who have special knowledge or interest; recondite: poetry full of esoteric allusions. 2. belonging to the select few. 3. private; secret; confidential. 4. (of a philosophical doctrine or the like) intended to be revealed only to the initiates of a group: the esoteric doctrines of Pythagoras.
So there. As for esoteric projection, I've never heard of it (though I understand the definition above quite well). My question is, how is one to differentiate between an esoteric projection, and a lucid dream?
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uh oh!
we should keep esoteric to it's original meaning, secret knowledge and emphasis with unity with God.
I thought the buffer zone between this world and the astral was the etheric realm? not esoteric? are there different terms going around now or what?
people will always get things mixed up, but from what I understood you should use OBE for a real time projection *your esoteric projection* and AP for an astral projection, which is outside of our concept of time. I think the members of astral dynamics do a good job separating the two
and redfan, if you have a real OBE, you'll know it's not a dream because you can witness real time events and verify them later. I can't say the same is true for the astral, I still want to know how to verify an AP from a dream!
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You are right juroara, esoteric is a term about spiritual knowledge.
I found this, I think the word is right, etheric instead of esoteric
"Etheric projection
In contrast to astral projection, etheric projection is described as the ability to move about in the material world in an etheric body which is usually, though not always, invisible to people who are presently "in their bodies."
