Thread: Was I close to APing???!!?!?!

Were you doing this with your physical body?

Meditation before bed is great if you want to explore HI. Personally, I find HI really difficult to remember unless I wake myself up from it. And when I'd go to write what I saw in my DJ, sometimes I would see shadow people or sense a really evil presence in the room.

That's never happened when I get up to record my HI without meditating first, only when I meditate. Which for me isn't very often, yet I still saw those things often enough.

If you're going to be meditating and seeing HI anyways, could you do me a favor and rouse yourself from it every once and awhile to check for shadow people? It happened to me often enough that I would expect if you tried it at least five times you would be bound to see something.

The thing is I don't know!!! I keep my eyes closed, I don't know how a spirit body feels like, although it probably is my real body

Cool, I'll try, do you have any tips on how to get out of my body? people say roll out of the body, but how does it feel when your ready to?

Just to be clear, you think of it as an astral body, I think of it as a dream body. I don't think it makes much of a difference, because one way or the other it's the same thing.

I often start to feel phantom limbs in addition to my real body on the verge of falling asleep, so I usually just go with that.

But when I get HI without any body or parts at all, I wait until I get something that's moving and kind of try to attach myself to it. Not literally, I try to start moving with it, and that will usually shake out an arm or two, if it doesn't pull me right in.

That's a very delicate stage of dreaming after you first get your dream body. While you are completely lucid during HI, it's almost impossible to carry over that lucidity to the moment where you first get your dream body. There isn't enough of the dream world formed yet, and lucidity messes up the natural way dreams form. You can't interrupt it at the seed level like that and expect to build an entire dream from scratch.

Most often, I willingly give up my lucidity at that stage, or at least putting it on the back burner. The plan is that I'm going lucid again once the dream a little more stable, but it almost never works. The problem is, I end up taking the dream as real.

That's what I think this whole astral business is. You can't be lucid at such an early stage of dreaming, and have no choice but to believe it's real. Otherwise you'd wake up. I think it's possible that any of the stuff astral people claim they can do is real, I just think it's possible within dreams.

Actually, I'm more into lucid dreaming but I'm a very curious person, but you kind of make sense....the part about you can't be lucid at the start.

Is it possible to view HI consciously? because this is something I find really hard to do. When I was younger i remember I would do it periodically and think nothing of it but now it doesn't come as easy. Today I was laying down just relaxing for about 30 minutes in between studying. About 15 minutes through my rational thoughts mostly faded away and I would find myself day dreaming I was at a bus stop, or about this really old guy etc. But as soon as I realize what that I'm daydreaming it ceases to exist and all I see is black although I can recall the images very clearly.

to respond to you, I've heard about the swaying feeling your experiencing, some people are able to separate from their body through that. gl

Originally Posted by wet_roof113

Is it possible to view HI consciously? because this is something I find really hard to do. When I was younger i remember I would do it periodically and think nothing of it but now it doesn't come as easy. Today I was laying down just relaxing for about 30 minutes in between studying. About 15 minutes through my rational thoughts mostly faded away and I would find myself day dreaming I was at a bus stop, or about this really old guy etc. But as soon as I realize what that I'm daydreaming it ceases to exist and all I see is black although I can recall the images very clearly.

Daydreaming is kind of the same as HI, but you're more or less in control. HI just comes out of nowhere all of a sudden. I agree it's a little more difficult to stay lucid during daydreams, but like I said, too much lucidity at that early stage interferes how the dreams forms. Which is why most APers find themselves in their room, because it was the last thing they were aware of. They don't have the HI or daydreams to build off of, so instead the dream recreates their room.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Daydreaming is kind of the same as HI, but you're more or less in control. HI just comes out of nowhere all of a sudden. I agree it's a little more difficult to stay lucid during daydreams, but like I said, too much lucidity at that early stage interferes how the dreams forms. Which is why most APers find themselves in their room, because it was the last thing they were aware of. They don't have the HI or daydreams to build off of, so instead the dream recreates their room.

i think we would disagree why "APers find themselves in their room" lol. I see what your saying about too much lucidity, I always become lucid in my house, except once.

I'm almost never in control in daydreams and have never been able to maintain consciousness while daydreaming btw... others can?

You can if you make an effort. But it doesn't come naturally like with HI.