Thread: Beginners to psychic powers, this one’s for you!

I consider myself an advanced psion. the psion handbook is okay, but it often causes more problems then it solves. I agree it's valuable tool however.

We should talk sometime I have a question or two for you maybe pm. Nice of you to help beginners good luck in your pursuits.

Thank you.

It may seem lazy lol but does it show you how to find out which abilities you'd be better at?
i'm always finding myself thinking of a specific song and turn the tv on and find the video playin on MTV.
not only this but numerous times i've known things before they happen, but only minor things.

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

... telekinesis (a branch of psychokinesis) ...

I want to point out that telekinesis shouldn't be thought of as a 'branch' of psychokinesis.

Actually, TK should be considered an outdated term from the 1960's.

Tele - implies, merely, that something is being done from over a distance; so you might be turning a psi-wheel with a 10-foot-pole or a fan; the term is too ambiguous.

Psycho - specifically implies that it is done with the mind; hence the term psychokinesis should supersede and replace the outdated telekinesis term.

I am interested mostly in telekinesis although some of the other stuff is also interesting. I am curious, are any of you guys able to move stuff such as a pen in the air and around, or is it mostly just pushing it? I hope its not the first If yes, do you guys think you can make a clip of it and post on youtube. It'll really boost my moral about TK
Edit: BTW, I was looking at the wiki and it means teleportation, but, I thought that's impossible. I mean TK is possible, but, teleportation is out of this world ;P Would be great to be able to move long distance using teleportation

...and is there proof? Really, I'd like there to be.

EDIT: lol at how all of these "excercises" can be done by simply breathing hard. Sure, you might not do it consciously, but it happens.

Just wondering...can these abilities be learned? I doubt I take the time to hone such an ability, but I'm curious as to if it can be done.

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

...and is there proof? Really, I'd like there to be.

EDIT: lol at how all of these "excercises" can be done by simply breathing hard. Sure, you might not do it consciously, but it happens.

I agree which is the reason I read the psipog book, but, haven't done any practice yet. I really wanna see someone demonstrate some psychokinesis even if its just a pen flying across the table or simply levitation of the pen

Originally Posted by KingCarnie

Just wondering...can these abilities be learned? I doubt I take the time to hone such an ability, but I'm curious as to if it can be done.

From what I got from the book and always believed myself beforehand, everyone and anyone can learn these abilities. Some takes more time than others similar to how some are natural LDs, others need a bit of practice while some need a couple of month to get even one One thing that was a bit odd is that they say telekinesis is hard to perform(on wiki website) due to the fact that your brainwaves have to be between alpha and theta to get it, so, 7Hz theta waves and the problem with that is that its near sleep. This kinda makes me wonder if you are WILDing and are able to get through SP, will you be able to perform telekinesis while still in bed since you are technically in that state

good stuff, thanks a bunch. I've recently, in the past year, had semi-spontaneous PK. Indoors, twice, and right in front of me. Simple stuff that I am concentrating on, without even trying to be psionic or pyschokenitic etc. BTW: wouldn't TK be a part of PK, instead of being just an outdated term? I wouldn't know what else to call it then.

I once teleported a small foil ball and phased a penny through a desk. Do i expect you to believe me? No I honestly don't believe it myself because I cannot reproduce the results. I actually have a camera unlike most other people who do PK and conveniently don't have one on them. I will NOT EXAGGERATE or LIE about what I can do. I see no point, it's the Internet it really does nothing for me. I however am trying to progress in PK so that one day I could post a reliable video in the beyond dreaming section to quell any disbelief. I don't mean any for the psi wheel crap either(I'm just as skeptical as you guys when it comes to psi wheel videos). I'm talking a plastic pen on a marble floor and having it move without the use of my breath or hands. I cannot produce any convincing PK effects now, but I swear that the day I claim I can I will have a video companying it.

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Well anyways PK takes a lot of practice and oftentimes I doubt it exist myself contrary to what I stated above, but something is happening pk or not and it's not coincidence.

You're right ND Dk you shouldn't expect anyone to believe you. Luckily I've had that proof myself, and am already fully open to explanations. I see that you're trying to film something in order to prove something exists. There's a few videos already, it matters little I think, as in the end people need one of two things; scientific discovery or personal experience.

"...I doubt it exist myself contrary to what I stated above,"
I'm guessing you mean the doubt of it being PK, as oppose to the doubt of having a penny put through solid matter.

This may boost people's belief a smidge, if nothing else:



Those darn Russians seem to always come to the light about stuff before we do in America.

Our sceintists reject parapsychological phenomena as "wacky and untrue."

In Russia they have entire branches of science devoted to studying them, for both research and military purposes.



They propose that TK is due to the usage of the mind to teleport objects.
Instead of seeing the movement of the balls as the man moving the balls, they see it as the man teleporting the balls rapidly in sequences to get it where he wants it. Movement is only simulated because the ball dissapears and reappears one atom to the left/other desired direction in a split split split split second, and keeps doing this until it is at the desired location.

It's like when you take still images and run them very fast and they appear to be moving (like a movie/film), say the Russians.

Intriguing.

I don't know if you watched that all the way through, but in the end he says something like this; [some group] believes TK is just a side effect of people who've acquired more interesting potentialities.

it's like a disease, and in the end we all turn into zombies.

russian science has been investigating the most mysterious corners of the human mind for a looong time. if anyone is closer to understanding 'what is psychokinesis', its the russians!

This is something I am wondering about. I'm sure most psi experts claim that making a psi ball is easy and pretty much useless. Now what if you were to use the energy to make a rope and then lift an object with it. So, make some kind of utensil with the energy and move it under the object and lift. Could this work and cause the object to levitate or would it be too hard to perform? The reason I ask is because this seems to be the closest thing to do to get to performing TK

@OP Thanks for the ebook. I gave the first exercise a try and both times I was able to get fantastic results, but, the feeling differed each time, so, I can't wait to see which one I get tommorrow. I am working on the psi balls right now just so that I can see what I get before moving onto more constructs

Originally Posted by BigFan

@OP Thanks for the ebook. I gave the first exercise a try and both times I was able to get fantastic results, but, the feeling differed each time, so, I can't wait to see which one I get tommorrow. I am working on the psi balls right now just so that I can see what I get before moving onto more constructs

Much much welcome. Glad to be of service.

I haven't fiddled with constructs too much. I can form psi-balls and shield and such, but I haven't done much of that in a while. Now I'm more into telepathy and macro PK.

Please keep me updated on your progress. I can offer advice and stuff, as well as share personal experiences.

Whats your current macro-psychokinesis method and what is the largest object you've had success with?

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

Much much welcome. Glad to be of service.

I haven't fiddled with constructs too much. I can form psi-balls and shield and such, but I haven't done much of that in a while. Now I'm more into telepathy and macro PK.

Please keep me updated on your progress. I can offer advice and stuff, as well as share personal experiences.

Definitely helpful to have a good explanation plus pics, since, I'm a visual person Why not share the experiences here? I doubt anyone will say anything and it'll likely give others the motivation they need to start working with psi. Any advice you can give me on making psi ball would be helpful. I found it a bit difficult to concentrate on collecting the energy as well as moving it to your arms to make the ball, because, that will require focusing on visualizing both of them at the same time and its somewhat difficult to do I haven't tried the other method though which I might have much more success

Originally Posted by Native Dreamer

Whats your current macro-psychokinesis method and what is the largest object you've had success with?

I would also like to know this because macro PK is my main interest as well

Originally Posted by Native Dreamer

Whats your current macro-psychokinesis method and what is the largest object you've had success with?

I just think to myself, "It's moving." and it does. It's a bit like dream control, only in real life

Largest object? A chandelier. And it was obvious. Like, not just a jiggle. This thing shook like an earthquake was happening.

@BigFan: I use the visualization method. Haven't tried the other much personally.

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

I just think to myself, "It's moving." and it does. It's a bit like dream control, only in real life

Largest object? A chandelier. And it was obvious. Like, not just a jiggle. This thing shook like an earthquake was happening.

@BigFan: I use the visualization method. Haven't tried the other much personally.

Cool cool you're the type that can basically "Just do it" lol. I'm coming up with a new method I'll share later if it's successful.

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

I just think to myself, "It's moving." and it does. It's a bit like dream control, only in real life

Largest object? A chandelier. And it was obvious. Like, not just a jiggle. This thing shook like an earthquake was happening.

@BigFan: I use the visualization method. Haven't tried the other much personally.

And somehow you're not making millions of dollars off of this?

No, I'm not. The chandelier was a fluke, normally I'm not that good.

In fact, I don't want to make money off of it, and be known to the world as that "weird psychic dude" who is rich but very not-normal and strange and ... etc. ... you get the point.

Exposure would not be a good thing.

And besides, people would probably just say, "Oh, it's only a trick," anyways. Even if I proved under controlled variables that it couldn't be a trick, people would be unwilling to accept it and would say, "He just knows a trick that no one else does. He's just a really good phony."

I want to be a writer or physician or neurologist when I grow up... not some psychic who is passed off as nothing more than a street magician.

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

I just think to myself, "It's moving." and it does. It's a bit like dream control, only in real life

Largest object? A chandelier. And it was obvious. Like, not just a jiggle. This thing shook like an earthquake was happening.

@BigFan: I use the visualization method. Haven't tried the other much personally.

Nice, were you ever able to levitate something or bring it to you like a pen? Also, were you able to manipulate psi similar to how you make the psi ball and make it like a long spatula which you could place under the pen and make it move? I know its an odd idea, but, hey if it works, why not?

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

And somehow you're not making millions of dollars off of this?

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

No, I'm not. The chandelier was a fluke, normally I'm not that good.

In fact, I don't want to make money off of it, and be known to the world as that "weird psychic dude" who is rich but very not-normal and strange and ... etc. ... you get the point.

Exposure would not be a good thing.

And besides, people would probably just say, "Oh, it's only a trick," anyways. Even if I proved under controlled variables that it couldn't be a trick, people would be unwilling to accept it and would say, "He just knows a trick that no one else does. He's just a really good phony."

I want to be a writer or physician or neurologist when I grow up... not some psychic who is passed off as nothing more than a street magician.

I agree with you WakataDreamer. Anytime someone does anything psychic whether its real or fake even under controlled conditions, it will be labelled as a trick and the guy will be labelled as crazy

Originally Posted by Native Dreamer

Cool cool you're the type that can basically "Just do it" lol. I'm coming up with a new method I'll share later if it's successful.

Nice, keep in touch with that new method if its successful