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      Debunking Psychics.

      Alright, I want to test these theories. And i am planning a long distance psychic phenomenon test. I will test scientifically and come to a real conclusion.

      Do not ask me about the tests i am planning, Because the whole point is i need to keep them secret for now.

      But there will be a phenomena test made by me. And it will be legitimate and documented.

      So all i need now is a good candidate for testing.

      I will only choose 1-3 people because i want to keep it fairly small for now.

      So what i am asking is anyone who believes they have any significant psychic ability please post in this thread and tell me if you would not mind being a test subject for my long range tests.

      Post in this format.

      Name:
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      Since when you became psychic:

      Must have MSN or AIM and be fairly active.

      I am looking for legitimate psychics here so please do not enter if you are a faker or just don't know what your doing, Because it will hurt the research.

      Thanks.

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      Just a consideration:

      Asking for legitimate psychics to participate in an expirement whose stated goal is to "debunk psychics" is not likely to generate honest participation.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Denver View Post
      Just a consideration:

      Asking for legitimate psychics to participate in an expirement whose stated goal is to "debunk psychics" is not likely to generate honest participation.
      The whole point is if they are legitimate then they have nothing to worry about, And also i'm not biast. I balieve neither way. I am only interested in makeing tests.

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      Sorry but testing 1-3 people won't lead you to any scientific conclusions. You need a very large sample size for any results to be taken seriously.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Denver View Post
      Just a consideration:

      Asking for legitimate psychics to participate in an expirement whose stated goal is to "debunk psychics" is not likely to generate honest participation.
      Lol, true 'dat. It's like running an experiment to measure the pain of being kicked in the nuts and then asking for volunteers who will let you kick them in the nuts.

      I might participate if your experiment can work with remote viewing. But my personal info is none of your damn business. Now where did I put that protective cup?

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      Confidence Calls

      By the way, any fair experiment of this sort should allow for "Confidence Calls".

      When the psychic give their answer, you should allow them to say if they are confident in they answer they give. You'll find the % of right answers for confidence calls are way higher than under normal circumstances.

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      I plan to make it larger when i have already used the method a few times, no point going full scale with this test at the moment.

      There will be, Remote Viewing tests, Shared Consciousness test, Etc.

      And i plan for Confidence Calls and i did from the start, And the only reason i wanted to know the info was for pure research reasons, If a younger or older age is more prone to psychic activity etc.

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      To clear away lies, exaggerations, vanities, etc.

      Meaning i wish to find the honest truth. And get rid of over exaggerations and fakers.
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      consider another group of 1 to 3 people who are not psychics (at least not aware of it) to be tested in the same way.
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      I'm not a psychic and will participate if you happen to find yourself in agreement with the above comment.

      Gotta tell me what would be required of me first though.

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      Yeah i would probably include non-psychic's too. Its just a new consept i have, If psychic activity can be done from a distance, And has a high sucsess rate, Then it could have many possabilities, As far as i am aware nobody has done ths type of test before, Since all other tests require lab standards, Removeing the labs makes things more interesting because from a distance there is no chance of logical guessing or face reading for the result.

      If it works it will be very interesting indeed, If 2 or more people can connect via psychic connection or remote viewing or shared conciousness.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ghost3DE View Post
      Since all other tests require lab standards, Removeing the labs makes things more interesting because from a distance there is no chance of logical guessing or face reading for the result.
      You need to read up on your research methodology.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      You need to read up on your research methodology.
      From the extremely vague terminology in the OP, I think it's going to be a sort of, "if it works, you'll know it" type of thing.

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      I was referring to the fact that he implied that legit scientists conducting research in a lab don't go through rigorous methods to ensure that their studies are blind and etc.

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      there are many experiments you can find about online

      no one listens or pays attention because the test wasn't talked about at their university. but universities don't teach everything.....as the study of the psychic phenomenon was taken seriously with military incentive. you know, who's to say the military will share everything?

      one of the last experiments that I heard about, shows that everyone is psychic. at least the test suggests, on a subconscious level everyone can and does react to future events before they happen. such as your body will react to a hideous picture, before you even 'know' on a conscious level that you are going to look at a hideous picture.

      there is no test that can prove without a doubt that the psychic phenomenon is real. people can freely choose to turn a blind eye, as they have done. as they will continue to do.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Beeyahoi View Post
      From the extremely vague terminology in the OP, I think it's going to be a sort of, "if it works, you'll know it" type of thing.
      I have a view the the subconscious hides things when in a troubling setting Like a lab, This is like if i gave someone a lie detector test and they knew what it was and i was asking them questions and i never asked them to tell the truth i was only asking them simple questions about there everyday life that nobody has to hide i can guarantee the subject would deliberately play along and put up some false answers because they are aware of what the situation means without even consciously thinking it over.

      Not everything can be measured with machines, Sometimes you have to let the pretence of a machine go and just look whats right and make up your own mind about it.

      The way i would test is if there is something that is very unusual then i would try to replicate the result.

      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      I was referring to the fact that he implied that legit scientists conducting research in a lab don't go through rigorous methods to ensure that their studies are blind and etc.
      What if one of the researchers are a friend of the subject and lets out information when they go out drinking? ^^, That's the type of thing i am talking about, if the test is long distance with people who don't know each other then it eliminates that possibility.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      You need to read up on your research methodology.
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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      there are many experiments you can find about online

      no one listens or pays attention because the test wasn't talked about at their university. but universities don't teach everything.....as the study of the psychic phenomenon was taken seriously with military incentive. you know, who's to say the military will share everything?

      one of the last experiments that I heard about, shows that everyone is psychic. at least the test suggests, on a subconscious level everyone can and does react to future events before they happen. such as your body will react to a hideous picture, before you even 'know' on a conscious level that you are going to look at a hideous picture.

      there is no test that can prove without a doubt that the psychic phenomenon is real. people can freely choose to turn a blind eye, as they have done. as they will continue to do.
      Not to get involved in a debate but...

      The example that you mention sounds like pure coincidence to me. Think about all the times that your body didn't react to some future event.

      That's the main issue with people thinking that something was a psychic phenomenon (in my opinion). Another example: Someone has a dream about a plane crash, and the next morning it happens. Well what about all those other dreams that didn't come true? Picking and choosing?

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      Look at it this way: Through our whole life we have had infinite amount of dreams.. and if only one of them was about a plane crashing, and that one dream out of all those dreams happens exactly when a plane is crashing IRL.. then how is that coincidence? If you calculate the odds of that happening, you end up with 1 against infinity. That's not coincidence anymore. Why believe, be skeptic, or do experiments if you can just use maths?

      Many scientific experiments have already verified this btw, but most people believe in coincidence more than in science. It's like talking to a brick wall, instead of thinking logically they just explain everything with coincidence eventho the chances of coincidence are 1 against infinity. As the odds are so low, coincidence is ruled out as a valid explanation.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba View Post
      Look at it this way: Through our whole life we have had infinite amount of dreams.. and if only one of them was about a plane crashing, and that one dream out of all those dreams happens exactly when a plane is crashing IRL.. then how is that coincidence? If you calculate the odds of that happening, you end up with 1 against infinity. That's not coincidence anymore. Why believe, be skeptic, or do experiments if you can just use maths?

      Many scientific experiments have already verified this btw, but most people believe in coincidence more than in science. It's like talking to a brick wall, instead of thinking logically they just explain everything with coincidence eventho the chances of coincidence are 1 against infinity. As the odds are so low, coincidence is ruled out as a valid explanation.
      How can you say humans have had an infinite amount of dreams throughout their whole life? Does that mean that, starting on Day 1, a newborn baby has had an infinite set of dreams? Please, explain what you mean.
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      I just meant a really big number lol. If you assume we have 3 dreams a night average, and you're 20 years, that makes a total of 3x365x20 = 21000 dreams, which is an infinite amount for me the way I put it was kinda confusing indeed..
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      Quote Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba View Post
      Look at it this way: Through our whole life we have had infinite amount of dreams.. and if only one of them was about a plane crashing, and that one dream out of all those dreams happens exactly when a plane is crashing IRL.. then how is that coincidence? If you calculate the odds of that happening, you end up with 1 against infinity. That's not coincidence anymore. Why believe, be skeptic, or do experiments if you can just use maths?
      That's not really math though... Because how can you calculate how many plane crash dreams a person has had? It's impossible. For one thing, people don't remember most of their dreams in the first place.

      That's not real math/science IMO.

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      If you keep a dreamjournal you can. Most people do, so they can calculate the odds. That is math, your opinion isn't going to change that lol. Nice try tho.

      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      She's correct about both of those, for sure.
      Nope. "for sure" is not a valid argument, try again.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      For one thing, people don't remember most of their dreams in the first place.

      That's not real math/science IMO.
      She's correct about both of those, for sure.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Not to get involved in a debate but...

      The example that you mention sounds like pure coincidence to me. Think about all the times that your body didn't react to some future event.
      my understanding of the test was that the body was ALWAYS reacting to future events. not a few times here and there.

      unless I misunderstood it

      it makes sense if you consider our understanding of linear time, isn't true to what time actually is. information is traveling to and fro through time space.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba View Post
      I just meant a really big number lol. If you assume we have 3 dreams a night average, and you're 20 years, that makes a total of 3x365x20 = 21000 dreams, which is an infinite amount for me the way I put it was kinda confusing indeed..
      Fair enough - I was mistaken in your meaning. I thought you might be implying that a person is more or less "born" with the set of all possible dreams that they may have in their life; kind of like how a woman is born with all of her eggs, even though they are not mature.

      But yeah, to say that we have a truck-load of dreams is definitely true.
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