Thread: Taking dream mind to waking life

why would you ever want to do that?

I've always seen the dreaming mind to be not far off the drunken mind.
So, go to the pub if you want to loose a bit of mental clarity

Besides brain damage and drugs, I dont think this is possible. You would need to shut down most of your logical reasoning during waking life, yet this faculty is one of the defining factors that makes us awake. If you merely mean how to better get "in touch" with our own subconscious, I would advise not to go about it like you suggest but to try meditation instead.

Originally Posted by [user-name]

why would you ever want to do that?

I can't get into much detail right now, but we are going to be beginning research on this subject this summer. I'm curious if any of the dreamview community has some personal experience with this or any stories they'd like to share

Stay tuned

According to Freud nonsense is explained by inhibitions that put what you really think or feel in a metaphorical way, instead of putting it out as it is in your dreams. So I'd say all inhibitions are in place (if you adhere to that theory), but they're used to distort your thoughts instead of completely hide them.

In this manner it's not very clear what you want to achieve. Do you think that it's possible to achieve "naked" subconsciousness, without distortions and methaphorical hidings, a kind of "naked stream" that fully makes sense?

Yes I did, in taekwondo and other martial arts they call this technique the soft stare, fightin with your subconscious. It's like you let your muscle memory do all the work and you don't think for yourself anymore, it gives you faster reflexes.

Attaining the intensity of dream emotion during everyday waking life would be incredible.

Originally Posted by Metaphyz1k

Attaining the intensity of dream emotion during everyday waking life would be incredible.

Are you really saying that your dream-emotions are more intense than waking ones?..

Originally Posted by dearly

We lose our inhibitions during dreams and speak our mind and act subconsciously. Has anyone looked into bringing this attitude to waking life and how one would go about doing it?

To lose inhibitions, you basically have to stop caring about what other people think.

The only time I experienced the freedom of a lucid dream in reality was when I was hitchhiking across Canada and found myself in a bar one night in a little town called Medicine hat. Being in the middle of nowhere, not knowing anyone, and knowing I'd never see any of those people again was very liberating. The closest thing to being lucid. I don't usually dance because I feel self conscious, but that night I danced up a storm, had a blast and picked up a blond who kept showing me her pierced tongue all night!

Originally Posted by Arutad

Are you really saying that your dream-emotions are more intense than waking ones?..

Absolutely. I often find that my emotions are heightened significantly in dream situations, and they are much more intense than what I generally experience in the everyday world.

This shouldn't be too surprising because we already know that the logical function and memory centers in the brain are largely inhibited during sleep, amplifying the emotional and subconscious aspects of our dreams. Also, because our dreams usually involve themes related to our hopes, fears, and desires, naturally this will evoke a lot of strong emotion, especially when compared to what we commonly feel from our experiences in our mundane waking lives.

Are you really implying that your waking emotions are more intense than your dream ones?

insomina seems to makes life into a dream like state. I have no idea about dream mind though.

Originally Posted by Metaphyz1k

Absolutely. I often find that my emotions are heightened significantly in dream situations, and they are much more intense than what I generally experience in the everyday world.

This shouldn't be too surprising because we already know that the logical function and memory centers in the brain are largely inhibited during sleep, amplifying the emotional and subconscious aspects of our dreams. Also, because our dreams usually involve themes related to our hopes, fears, and desires, naturally this will evoke a lot of strong emotion, especially when compared to what we commonly feel from our experiences in our mundane waking lives.

Surprising for me But I guess we all are different. I personally feel like a different person in a dream, not caring for a lot of things, that's why I like them And emotions are the same, except for fear that's more intense, but that's because in real life you don't have nightmarish kinds of fear.

Were you talking of normal or lucid dreams btw?

Originally Posted by [user-name]

why would you ever want to do that?

For a very own VIP-pass for your mind. Anyhow, using drugs that alter state of conciousness can help with this, but I wouldn't advice for it. Also, hallucinations via mental instability do the trick as said before ... ;>

But through trance your state of consciousness differs greatly and you can be in tune with your sub-c a lot better. Even though not technically asleep, you are not in fully awaken state either.

But for having full clarity as in waking life, without drugs or mental illnesses, I say no.

Originally Posted by Arutad

Surprising for me But I guess we all are different. I personally feel like a different person in a dream, not caring for a lot of things, that's why I like them And emotions are the same, except for fear that's more intense, but that's because in real life you don't have nightmarish kinds of fear.

Were you talking of normal or lucid dreams btw?

Well, I was speaking of dreams in general. But I suppose you're correct in that we are all different. I believe my waking emotions to be less prominent than the average person because I've undergone a sort of disconnection from my feelings due to certain occurrences in my life. My dreams are like a sanctuary and a tool for self discovery, and I've come to enjoy them greatly.

I feel like a different person when I'm dreaming, as well. But when I'm in this state I usually take time to marvel at the beauty and fully embrace the experience. I wish I could be the same way when I'm awake.

I hope that you'll become the same way when awake, too. Life can be difficult, but such is life... You're probably different in dreams just because you don't remember something bad while dreaming.

a man who could read energies once explained to me that the physical waking life is perpendicular to the divine subconscious (he was a mystic type), forming a T, with the physical running horizontal to the divine vertical (where the chakras are, the horizontal being across your heart)

the reason i am bringing this up is that the horizontal depends upon the vertical that you can't fix anything in your life horizontally without fixing the vertical as the horizontal is dependent upon the vertical.

if you replace horizontal with conscious mind and vertical with subconscious it suddenly makes a lot more sense in a non spiritual way.

so if you realign the subconscious then the conscious physical world will fix itself. it is possible to be at a theta or delta state whilst being awake. this is what monks call enlightenment.

you simply have to keep your mind perfectly clear all the time, which is easier said than done.

Originally Posted by dearly

I can't get into much detail right now, but we are going to be beginning research on this subject this summer. I'm curious if any of the dreamview community has some personal experience with this or any stories they'd like to share

Stay tuned

Why the research?

In any case I think a few literature studies will be sufficient.