Simple AP Experiment

I am not well versed in "astral projection", much less WILD. But I keep an open yet skeptical mind to everything.

If my understanding of AP is correct (and it's probably not so bear with me), all it should be a releasing of consciousness from the physical body in the form of whatever. Basically, becoming a ghost without dying.

So, wouldn't it follow that you can see objects in the waking world as you would see them a ghost?

Some of you may have heard of my simple "playing card" experiment. Basically, find a glass table in the house. Take a deck of cards, and shuffle them up really well. Take three at random and place them on the glass table face down. If you don't have a glass table, tape three cards to a window with the face away from you (you don't want to know what the cards are just yet.)

Now, induce an AP. You should easily be able to see the cards from under the table or on the other side of the window. Just take a good look, remember what they are, and wake. Now check and compare the cards.

If I ever manage to FINALLY get the hang of staying aware while you fall asleep, this is one thing I'd be willing to try myself. But I encourage anyone who is adept at this skill to give it a shot. It could prove a compelling case for the existence of AP. I try to look for cases giving it a good solid basis for existence, but most of these reports come from websites that are questionable in their analytical methods.

I've tried this experiment myself a few years ago. In fact, I know at least several people that have tried similar experiments...all with varying results...none that seem to offer any proof that APs are "real" in the sense that, you are walking around the real world, not the dream world.

another test would be to astral project and have somone do something and than when you wake yourself, you recount everything the person did.

One of my martial arts instructors is very spiritual and claims he can AP at will. He told me a story where he APed and went to a friends house. he than went and recounted everything his friend did that night, and the friend confirmed it.
Again... who knows if he was telling the truth or not, but if that could be proven, it would be a surefire way of proving AP I would think...

What if your AP consciousness has a different view of things then your human view of things you see with your eyeballs (brain). It may be hard to understand, and we may see other things then we normally would. I may see a jar of peanut butter on the table in waking life, but there really is no jar of peanut butter, it's a human illusion (although you can see things you wanna see, so you may see cards on the window and it's good enough for you), and this non human consciousness allows you to see differently, like non illusion things. If you can AP you can see things you can't your brain tells you you are seeing from those light rays or whatever, i dunno...this is just a theory i thought of when reading the OP so don't think i'm actually serious.

edit- Reading over it i'm confused myself of what i said. What i said is what if your human view of things (your vision) is different then your non human view of things (vision, although i needed a human way of saying it because vision without the brain we say is impossible) because everything is an illusion created by the brain, but the reason why you may see like cards on a window, but it's not 100% correct as you put them is because you want to see cards to prove to yourself you are not faking it. Most people wanna just "know", so you may have forgotten, or blanked out the real ones and used the cards even if they are wrong to prove to yourself you are right, and that this really does work even if the expieriment was to prove to everyone. To prove to everyone you are right is to convince yourself first.

I did an AP experiment with his friend while I was on the phone. This is how our conversation went. This was about ten years ago when I was practicing AP all the time.

Me: I see your car. It looks strange... It's orange... and hmm...

Him: It's actually orange with one green door, because the original door got dented.

Me: Um... your lawn has weeds.

Him: Well, the grass is kind of long. I haven't mowed the grass for awhile.

Me: And you have three steps going up to the front door.

Him: No, four. But, close!

Me: I go into your house. I am in the living room. There is something disturbing on the TV. Something really disturbing.

Him: Actually, the TV is off, but I drew a picture of a three breasted devil in the dust on the screen.

Me: Haha. Weird. Okay, I am in your bedroom. I see you have a superman logo on the ceiling? Hanging from the ceiling?

Him: I actually have a comic book hanging from the ceiling.

Me: Funny. Everything in your room looks like it's floating. Everything is floating. Even your bed. What the hell?

Him: I have a lot of stuff hanging from the ceiling. Even my bed is hanging from the ceiling suspended by chains.

Me: That's cool!

Him: That's cool that you said everything was floating.

Commentary: I don't know exactly what AP is still. From personal experience I would get impressions, but it's not like walking around in waking life. It's more like remembering a faded memory, but the memory is the present. I have had some AP experiences that were totally out of body, and others where I felt like I was imagining things in my mind, but I obviously wasn't. There is always a kind of astral overlay to the physical.

I understand a lot of seekers want to do experiments because they want to believe something is true, and thus devise experiments to provide unrefutable evidence. But, I find that putting the cart before the horse. Here's an example. Let's say you want to see if humans can hold their breath underwater for four minutes. You try it and fail. You get others to try it, and they fail, then you dismiss it all, saying that it's completely impossible to hold your breath for four minutes, without considering the possibility that holding your breath is a skill, and holding your breath for four minutes is something that humans can eventually do with a lot of practice.

From my personal experience with AP and remote viewing, things like looking at numbers on cards are difficult. It's much easier to look at big things like cars, houses, bridges, mountains. Also, if you were to go completely out of body, you may get so amazed you forget your task, as in a lucid dream.

For example, let's say I was to do that experiment with you, and you didn't tell me that you taped cards to your window, I may notice the cards, I may not, but if I did, I may say... "You have some stuff stuck on your window... What is that? You have Christmas cards on your window?"

I am not as good at AP as I used to be, because it's a skill, and if you don't practice, your skill decreases. I find lucid dreaming much easier, so I focus on that.