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      OBEs and Lucid Dreams

      OTHER WORLDS: OUT-OF-BODY EXPERIENCES AND LUCID DREAMS
      by Lynne Levitan and Stephen LaBerge, Ph.D.

      "Out of body" experiences (OBEs) are personal experiences
      during which people feel as if they are perceiving the physical
      world from a location outside of their physical bodies. At least
      5 and perhaps as many as 35 of every 100 people have had an OBE
      at least once in their lives (Blackmore, 1982). OBEs are highly
      arousing; they can be either deeply disturbing or profoundly
      moving. Understanding the nature of this widespread and potent
      experience would no doubt help us better understand the
      experience of being alive and human.

      The simplest explanation is that OBEs are exactly what they
      seem: the human consciousness separating from the human body and
      traveling in a discorporate form in the physical world. Another
      idea is that they are hallucinations, but this requires an
      explanation of why so many people have the same delusion. Some of
      our experiments have led us to consider the OBE as a natural
      phenomenon arising out of normal brain processes. Thus, we
      believe that the OBE is a mental event that happens to healthy
      people. In support of this, psychologists Gabbard and Twemlow
      (1984) have concluded from surveys and psychological tests that
      the typical OBE experient is "a close approximation of the
      'average healthy American.'" (p. 40)

      Our conception, also proposed by the English psychologist
      Susan Blackmore, is that an OBE begins when a person loses
      contact with sensory input from the body while remaining
      conscious (Blackmore, 1988; LaBerge - Lucidity Letter; Levitan -
      Lucidity Letter). The person retains the feeling of having a
      body, but that feeling is no longer derived from data provided by
      the senses. The "out-of-body" person also perceives a world that
      resembles the world he or she generally inhabits while awake, but
      this perception does not come from the senses either. The vivid
      body and world of the OBE is made possible by our brain's
      marvelous ability to create fully convincing images of the world,
      even in the absence of sensory information. This process is
      witnessed by each of us every night in our dreams. Indeed, all
      dreams could be called OBEs in that in them we experience events
      and places quite apart from the real location and activity of our
      bodies.


      WHAT ARE OBES LIKE?

      So, we are saying that OBEs may be a kind of dream. But, even
      so, they are extraordinary experiences. The great majority of
      people who have had OBEs say they are more real than dreams.
      Common aspects of the experience include being in an "out-of-
      body" body much like the physical one, feeling a sense of energy,
      feeling vibrations, and hearing strange loud noises (Gabbard &
      Twemlow, 1984). Sometimes a sensation of bodily paralysis
      precedes the OBE (Salley, 1982; Irwin, 1988; Muldoon &
      Carrington, 1974; Fox, 1962).

      To the sleep researcher, these strange phenomena are
      remarkably reminiscent of another curious experience, called
      sleep paralysis. Sleep paralysis occurs sometimes when a person
      is waking from or falling into REM sleep, the state in which most
      vivid dreams occur. During REM sleep, the muscles of the body,
      excluding the eye muscles and those responsible for circulation
      and respiration, are immobilized by orders from a nerve center in
      the lower brain. This prevents us from acting out our dreams.
      Occasionally, this paralysis turns on or remains active while the
      person's mind is fully awake and aware of the world.

      Some of the experiences people have reported during sleep
      paralysis are: "I feel completely removed from myself," "feeling
      of being separated from my body," "eerie, rushing experiences,"
      and hearing "hissing in the ears," and "roaring in the head."
      These events appear to be much like the OBE sensations of
      vibrations, strange noises, and drifting away from the physical
      body (Everett, 1983). Fear has also been described as a common
      component of sleep paralysis (see the "Question and Answer" in
      NightLight, Vol. 2, No. 1 for a discussion of overcoming fear in
      sleep paralysis.)


      WHEN DO OBES HAPPEN?

      So, it seems possible that at least some OBEs arise from the
      same conditions as sleep paralysis, and that these two terms may
      actually be naming two aspects of the same phenomenon. As a first
      test of this idea, we should ask how many OBEs actually occur at
      times when people are likely to experience sleep paralysis --
      that is, do OBEs happen when people are lying down, asleep,
      resting, or while awake and active?

      Researchers have approached the question of the timing of
      OBEs by asking people who claim to have had OBEs to describe when
      they happened. In one of these, over 85 percent of those surveyed
      said they had had OBEs while they were resting, sleeping or
      dreaming. (Blackmore, 1984) Other surveys also show that the
      majority of OBEs occur when people are in bed, ill, or resting,
      with a smaller percentage coming while the person is drugged or
      medicated. (Green, 1968; Poynton, 1975; Blackmore, 1983 )

      Survey evidence favors the theory that OBEs could arise out
      of the same conditions as sleep paralysis. There is also
      considerable evidence that people who tend to have OBEs also tend
      to have lucid dreams, flying and falling dreams, and the ability
      to control their dreams (Blackmore, 1983, 1984; Glicksohn, 1989;
      Irwin, 1988).

      Because of the strong connection between OBEs and lucid
      dreaming, some researchers in the area have suggested that OBEs
      are a type of lucid dream (Faraday, 1976; Honegger, 1979; Salley,
      1982). One problem with this argument is that although people who
      have OBEs are also likely to have lucid dreams, OBEs are far less
      frequent, and can happen to people who have never had lucid
      dreams. Furthermore, OBEs are quite plainly different from lucid
      dreams in that during a typical OBE the experient is convinced
      that the OBE is a real event happening in the physical world and
      not a dream, unlike a lucid dream, in which by definition the
      dreamer is certain that the event is a dream. There is an
      exception that connects the two experiences -- when we feel
      ourselves leaving the body, but also know that we are dreaming.

      In our studies of the physiology of the initiation of
      lucidity in the dream state, we observed that quite of few of the
      lucid dreams we collected contained experiences like OBEs. The
      dreamers described lying in bed, feeling strange bodily
      sensations, often vibrations, hearing loud humming noises, and
      then rising out of body and floating above the bed.

      Those studies revealed that lucid dreams have two ways of
      starting. In the much more common variety, the "dream-initiated
      lucid dream" (DILD), the dreamer acquires awareness of being in a
      dream while fully involved in it. DILDs occur when dreamers are
      right in the middle of REM sleep, showing lots of the
      characteristic rapid eye movements. We know this is true because
      our dreamers give a deliberate prearranged eye-movement signal
      when they realize they are dreaming. These signals show up on our
      physiology record, so that we can pinpoint the times when
      lucidity begins and see what kind of brain state the dreamers
      were in at those times. DILDs account for about four out of every
      five lucid dreams that our dreamers have had in the laboratory.
      In the other 20 percent, the dreamers report awakening
      from a dream and then returning to the dream state with unbroken
      awareness -- one moment they are aware that they are awake in bed
      in the sleep laboratory, and the next moment, they are aware that
      they have entered a dream and are no longer perceiving the room
      around them. We call these "wake initiated lucid dreams" (WILDs).

      A casual look at the dream reports and physiological
      records led us to think that the OBE-type dream content was
      happening mostly in WILDs. So, we analyzed the data
      scientifically in the experiment described below.


      THE LABORATORY STUDY

      The data we studied consisted of 107 lucid dreams from a
      total of 14 different people. The physiological information that
      we collected in conjunction with each lucid dream always included
      brain waves, eye-movements, and chin muscle activity. These
      measurements are necessary for determining if a person in awake,
      asleep, and in REM sleep or not. In all cases, the dreamer
      signaled the beginning of the lucid dream by making a distinct
      pattern of eye movements that was identifiable by someone not
      involved with the experiment.

      After verifying that all the lucid dreams had eye signals
      showing that they had happened in REM sleep, we classified them
      into DILDs and WILDs, based on how long the dreamers had been in
      REM sleep without awakening before becoming lucid (two minutes or
      more for DILDs, less that two minutes for WILDs), and on their
      report of either having realized they were dreaming while
      involved in a dream (DILD) or having entered the dream directly
      from waking while retaining lucidity (WILD).

      Alongside the physiological analysis we scored each dream
      report for the presence of various events that are typical of
      OBEs, such as feelings of body distortion (including paralysis
      and vibrations), floating or flying, references to being aware of
      being in bed, being asleep or lying down, and the sensation of
      leaving the body (for instance, "I was floating out-of-body").


      RESULTS: MORE OBE-LIKE EVENTS IN WILDS

      Ten of the 107 lucid dreams qualified as OBEs, because the
      dreamers reported feeling like they had left their bodies in the
      dream. Twenty of the lucid dreams were WILDs, and 87 were DILDs.
      Five of the OBEs were WILDs (28%) and five were DILDs (6%). Thus,
      OBEs were more than four times more likely in WILDs than in DILDs.

      The three OBE-related events we looked for also all
      occurred more often in WILDs than in DILDs. Almost one third of
      WILDs contained body distortions, and over a half of them
      included floating or flying or awareness of being in bed. This is
      in comparison to DILDs, of which less than one fifth involved
      body distortions, only one third included floating or flying, and
      one fifth contained awareness of bed.

      The reports from the five DILDs that we classified as OBEs
      were actually much like those from the WILD-OBEs. In both the
      dreamers felt themselves lying in bed and experiencing strange
      sensations including paralysis and floating out-of-body. Although
      these lucid dreams sound like WILDs, we had classified them as
      DILDS because the physiological records showed no awakenings
      preceding lucidity. However, it is possible that these people
      could have momentarily become aware of their environments (and
      hence been "awake") while continuing to show the brainwaves
      normally associated with REM sleep. The science of the EEG is not
      sufficiently advanced that we can tell what people are
      experiencing by looking at their brainwaves. Anecdotes from dream
      reports indicate that people sometimes become aware of sensations
      from their sleeping bodies while dreaming -- for example, the
      dream in which you are trying to run while your legs become
      heavier and heavier, perhaps because you are feeling their true
      immobile condition.


      OBES AND WILDS OUTSIDE THE LABORATORY

      Our laboratory studies showed us that when OBEs happen in
      lucid dreams they happen either when a person reenters REM sleep
      right after an awakening, or right after having become aware of
      being in bed. However, we wondered if this relationship would
      apply to OBEs and lucid dreams that people experience at home, in
      the "real world."

      Not being able to take the sleep lab to the homes of hundreds
      of people (the DreamLight may soon give us this capacity!), we
      took a survey about OBEs and other dream-related experiences,
      somewhat like the past studies referred to earlier. The
      difference between our survey and previous ones is that in
      addition to asking if people had had OBEs, we asked specifically
      about certain events that we know to be associated with WILDs,
      namely, lucid dreaming, returning directly to a dream after
      awakening from it, and sleep paralysis.

      A total of 572 people filled out our questionnaire. They
      were either students in an introductory psychology course or
      readers of the NightLight. About a third of the group reported
      having had at least one OBE. Just over 80 percent had had lucid
      dreams. Sleep paralysis was reported by 37 percent and 85 percent
      had been able to return to t a dream after awakening.

      People who reported more dream-related experiences also
      reported more OBEs. For example, of the 452 people claiming to
      have had lucid dreams, 39 percent also reported OBEs, whereas
      only 15 percent of those who did not claim lucid dreams said they
      had had OBEs. The group with the most people reporting OBEs (51%)
      were those who said they had experienced lucid dreams, dream
      return, and sleep paralysis.

      We would expect people who can return directly to dreams
      after an awakening to be prone to having WILDs, and therefore
      also to have frequent lucid dreams. Indeed, in this survey,
      people reporting frequent dream return also tended to report
      frequent lucid dreams. Thus, we believe that the fact that dream
      return frequency was linked with OBE frequency in this study
      gives further support to our laboratory research finding that
      WILDs were associated with OBEs.


      WHAT DO WE KNOW NOW?

      Our two studies have compared the frequency of OBEs in the
      two types of lucid dream, and surveyed the relative frequency of
      OBEs and dream-related events in a large number of people. We
      have thereby learned that when OBEs happen during lucid dreams,
      they generally happen in lucid dreams that arise from brief
      awakenings in REM sleep, and that people who have certain special
      dream experiences are more likely to have OBEs that people who do
      not. These dream experiences include returning to the dream state
      after an awakening, lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis.
      Above we described our operating theory that OBEs occur
      when people lose input from their sense organs, as happens at the
      onset of sleep, while retaining consciousness. This combination
      of events is especially likely when a person passes directly from
      waking into REM sleep. In both states the mind is alert and
      active, but in waking it is processing sensory input from the
      outside world, while in dreaming it is creating a mental model
      independent of sensory input. This model includes a body. When
      dreaming, we generally experience ourselves in a body much like
      the "real" one, because that is what we are used to. However, our
      internal senses in the physical body, which when we are awake
      inform us about our position in space and the movement of our
      limbs. This information is cut off in REM sleep. Therefore, we
      can dream of doing all kinds of things with our dream bodies --
      flying, dancing, running from monsters, being dismembered -- all
      while our physical bodies lie safely in bed.

      During a WILD, or sleep paralysis, the awake and alert mind
      keeps up its good work of showing us the world it expects is out
      there -- although it can no longer sense it. So, then we are in a
      mental-dream-world. Possibly we feel the cessation of the
      sensation of gravity as that part of sensory input shuts down,
      and then feel that we are suddenly lighter and float up, rising
      from the place where we know our real body to be lying still. The
      room around us looks about the same, because that is our brain's
      best guess about where we are. If we did not know that we had
      just fallen asleep, we might well think that we were awake, still
      in touch with the physical world, and that something mighty
      strange was happening -- a departure of the mind from the
      physical body!

      The unusual feeling of leaving the body is exciting and
      alarming. This, combined with the realistic imagery of the
      bedroom is enough to account for the conviction of many OBE
      experients' that "it was too real to be a dream." Dreams, too,
      can be astonishingly real, especially if you are attending to
      their realness. Usually, we pass through our dreams without
      thinking much about them, and upon awakening remember little of
      them. Hence, they seem "unreal." But waking life is also like
      that -- our memory for a typical, mundane day is flat and lacking
      in detail. It is only the novel, exciting, or frightening events
      that leave vivid impressions. If we stop what we are doing, we
      can look around and say, "Yes, this world looks solid and real."
      But, if you look back and try to recall, for instance, brushing
      your teeth this morning, your memory is likely to be vague and
      not very life-like. Contrast this to a past event that excited or
      alarmed you, which is likely to seem much more "real" in
      retrospect.

      Lucid dreamers often comment to themselves in dreams, "I
      know this is a dream, but it all seems so incredibly real!" All
      this goes to show that the feeling that an event is real does not
      mean that it is happening in the physical world that we all share
      when we are awake. This is not to deny that that inner
      experiences are real, in that they have deeply profound effects
      on our lives. However, as lucid dreaming so amply demonstrates,
      we can learn to distinguish between our personal dreams and
      events in the consensus dream we call physical reality. When we
      do, we find that what we thought was one thing -- the waking
      world -- is actually another -- a dream.

      Proof that some or even most OBEs are dreams is not enough
      to allow us to say that a genuine OBE is impossible. However, in
      the interests of lucidity, if you have an OBE, why not test to
      see if the OBE-world passes the reality test? Is the room you are
      in the one you are actually sleeping in? If you have left your
      body, where is it? Do things change when you are not looking at
      them (or when you are)? Can you read something twice and have it
      remain the same on both readings? If any of your questions and
      investigations leave you doubting that you are in the physical
      world, is it not logical to believe you are dreaming?

      Another point to consider is that a dream doesn't always
      have to happen in REM sleep. Most do, but there are probably
      quite a few other conditions in which people can lose touch with
      sensory experience and enter a mental world. Some such states
      that we know of are hypnotic trance, anesthesia, and sensory
      isolation. OBEs have been reported from these states (Nash et
      al., 1984; Olson, 1988). Thus, the argument that an OBE cannot be
      a dream because the experient wasn't asleep doesn't hold water.


      THE "IN-THE-BODY" EXPERIENCE

      To end this discussion of the origins of the OBE, an event
      considered unbelievable by many and metaphysical by others, let's
      consider the state of affairs that is considered normal: the "in-
      the-body" experience. What does it mean to be in a body? Saying
      that one is in a body implies that the self is an object with
      definite borders capable of being contained by the boundaries of
      another object -- the physical body. However, we do not have any
      evidence that the self is such a concrete thing. What we think of
      as "out-of-body" in an OBE is the experience of the self. This
      experience of being "in" a body is normally based on perceptual
      input from the senses of both the world external to the body and
      the processes within the body. These give us a sense of
      localization of the self in space. However, it is the body, and
      its sense organs, that occupy a specific locus, not the self. The
      self is not the body or the brain. If we think that the self is a
      product of brain function, even this does not make it reasonable
      to state that the self is in the brain -- is the meaning
      contained in these words in this page? It may not make any sense
      on an objective level to say that the self is anywhere. Rather,
      the self is where it feels itself to be. Its location is purely
      subjective and derived from input from the sensory organs.

      Putting aside the question of the essential nature of the
      self, perception is undeniably a phenomenon tied to brain
      function. So, when we find ourselves experiencing a world that
      seems much like the one we are used to perceiving with our usual
      equipment -- eyes, ears, etc., all things linked to our brains,
      it would be logical to assume that it is our usual brain creating
      the experience. And, if we were to really leave our bodies --
      severing all connection with them -- it would be illogical to
      assume that we would see the world in the same way. Therefore,
      although no amount of contradictory evidence can rule out the
      possibility of a real "out of body experience," in which an
      individual exists in some form entirely independent of the body,
      it is highly unlikely that such a form would utilize perceptual
      systems identical to those of the physical human form.

      Spiritual teachings tell us that we have a reality beyond
      that of this world. The OBE may not be, as it is easily
      interpreted, a literal separation of the soul from the crude
      physical body, but it is an indication of the vastness of the
      potential that lies wholly within our minds. The worlds we create
      in dreams and OBEs are as real as this one, and yet hold
      infinitely more variety. How much more exhilarating to be "out-
      of-body" in a world where the only limit is the imagination than
      to be in the physical world in a powerless body of ether! Freed
      of the constraints imposed by physical life, expanded by
      awareness that limits can be transcended, who knows what we could
      be, or become?
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      Thanks for posting this Nina. I've read this on LaBerg's website before, and it's worth the read.

      IMO, whether or not a person chooses to interpret their experience as something strictly physiological or something spiritual is up to them. Spiritual experiences in general are subjective and emotional. The label we give them is up to us, not someone else. It's understandable that other people would be frustrated at someone labeling something as a spiritual experience when it looks mundane in an objective view.

      On the other hand, what's wrong with exploring different states of consciousness and all the gray areas in between without having to label them at all? In other words, doesn't it really limit us when we try to separate when we try to label different experiences? And if they are really spiritual experiences, why shouldn't they overlap with dreams? Does an OBE have to be completely separate from a dream for it to be "special"? Who cares if it's put under the same umbrella in the eyes of science? Does that really take away its meaning for those who choose to give it that?

      If you're scientist, it's your job to try to categorize things and figure out what makes them different, if at all. But as for me, it doesn't really matter what the label is for my experience. Personally, if I choose to find meaning in it, or if I choose to explore it without worrying about what it is or how it works or where I really am, I think I get a lot more out of it. But that's just me.

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      Excellent post Naiya...couldn't agree more.

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