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It would be a cool shaman type experiment to try and see if you can contact some sort of higher beings in a lucid dream.
The words " I summon the most powerfull good being in the universe into my body" should suffice. The Idea is that it is powerfull enough to pick up your transmission and also enough to interact with you in your mind.
I don't recommend trying to meet the most powerfull bad being.
Im interested in hearing what you get in this dream.
Nice one, but i bet to be even capable of trying this, in a dream, you'll need a very proficient oneironautQuote:
Originally Posted by Iisme
not to mention staying stable when it happens , IF it happens
Ludid?
Also, do you expect these "higher beings" to be....real?
Cos if so....well you know.
That's stupid.
Might be interesting to see what your brain comes up with anyway I guess.
Well.... Actually the whole Idea is to see if anyone else would get the same result as I; thus establishing the reality or lack there of. It would all depend on the consistency of the outcomes.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingYetiTeffa
The controls of this experiment are the only problem though. It helps that Ive not displayed my experience yet though.
It is also an unknown if some one must in balance with there third eye or needs to have already already gotten the attention of said entity. That is if there is anything going on other then just dreaming.
Where would we be if everyone just excepted that the world was flat, or that religion wasn't man made. Freedom is a state of mind, and now days, so is slavery.
I will post my dream on a forum to make it hard to find. So that my part of the experiment can be verified, by date.
Ive actually had a few run ins with this catagory of lucid dream sinario. I guess thats why im kinda obsessed with it now. Maybe you will see what I mean.
I agree with KingYeti. Since you would be dreaming at the time, most likely you would get a fictional figment of your dreams. But if you and many other people got the same result, and were able to describe the same thing proficiently, then maybe, it wouldn't be so, uh, far fetched.
How crazy would it be if we could contact each other in the Dream World. And only the limited number of strong oneironaut's could do so O_O
Sry just high as balls :p
Ok.... I put the dream in a thread that I have been talking about this subject on, but with a user name that is not linked to me. I can always just copy and paste that entery here, after a few people do it, and post here. :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Muggler
:lol: That sounds like good experiment too. I had a dream where I thought that happened once, but I thought I may have entered some one elses dream, and I was trying to explain it too her, as we were on a river in a small boat approaching a waterfall. Im going to have to try and look that up in the threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluemangroup
Higher beings not real?! K-hole, 4th plateau, plateau stigma LEARN IT!.
That being said it probably will be your mind creating this shit on drugs or dreams but, it's still cool to see what your brain can pump out.
Get off my forum robojunkie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azatos
(totally kidding btw, chug it narc)
Real or not, It would be awesome to see what it comes up with.
I had another of LD of this type. Im not going to post mine though until some of you actually get around to doing it and post.
A couple of problems I see with this concept.
Imagine you're in a room with a group of random people. A message comes n over the intercom:
"Would the most powerful good person in the room please pick up a white courtesy phone?"
What happens then? You look at each other and start saying "Well, I'm good... are you good or evil?... Oh... you're neither? Ok... so... I;m good... he's good... looks like another good one over there... now how do we determine who's the most powerful... arm wrestling contest maybe?"
Do you see the inherent problems?
Also, if these beings are so powerful, then why would they be bound to answer to your summons?
And who's to say if you put out a wide band call for powerful "good" beings, that bad ones wouldn't answer and claim to be good?
I see what you are saying. I guess it is just a way of narrowing down the invitation. Weather or not anything fits in, or has to obide by that specific invitation may be a totaly different matter. I guess It wouldnt really matter what you say as long as it works. Just a long as you write down the variation with results. I gave that statement because that is the one that worked for me. It is still up for grabs if its a figment of the imagination or not. You could leave out the word good and maybe put caring or not evil in its place. The word good is more of a safety thing I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkmatters
I'm interested in people's experiences with this. When I master LD, I will be trying something similar. I think intent is the most important thing, not the wording. The intent conveys the concept behind the words you use, so the feeling it gives you when you say it is what matters - does that make sense?
My personal phase is going to me asking for an entity with the wisdom to help me reach my and everyone that I love's highest good and potential to visit me. Or something along those lines, it's likely to change as I get there. I'm uncertain at this point if there are really "outside" forces which would be "summoned", or if the highest part of my own subconscious will be created by my brain, however I remain open to both concepts until I get objective proof (to me, precognative information or a verifiable shared experience completely uninfluenced by suggestion - ie a closed envelope sharing of experiences where the content was not discussed prior, except perhaps a "meeting place" we had both arranged and visited before - and this would need to be repeated). I've had a couple of "Hmmm" moments like this, however I'm still both skeptical and openminded.
It's something I am extremely interested in, and something I hope to resolve before I croak. :)
That is pretty much the same way I perceive this subject. Minus the fact that I don't have a confirmed shared experiences, but hopefully some one will get a hit, and post it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumblebee
More of my godly dreams: My first one was the best, and the second one was almost as interesting. The third one was cool too but not as much drama. Still no super powers, and no staggeringly impressive other things, maybe.
That was one thing that was cool about it to me was that it happened within a day or two after I got the idea, and when it happened it was odd in the way the dream took me on a tangent for a decent amount of time to different locations and such. It was kind of like in that movie where the ghost of christmas past, christmas future and present was taking that Scrooge guy to different places, only I wasnt hanging around a lot and there wasnt any guide or anything yet. Also, I dont remember all of that part, only bits and peices. Another interesting thing is how in the second part I met and talked with the entity in question, the dream was extremely stable, and realistic. Towards the end I was creeped out about something and wanted to leave. I was alarmed by the fact that I had trouble waking up. Normally I have trouble keeping lucid, and trying to stay lucid is often a big theme of my LD. Another interesting thing was that I was in the place for a wile at the end of it and I wasnt having any problem with the stability of the dream. It just held together on its own very well. These three things are something that make this particular dream even more interesting to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by LostKiddo
I wish I had not left as quickly as I did. Now that it is over I would have done a couple of things differently.
The only stupid thing I see here are the people who tell other people that something that they may believe is possible is "stupid". Ludid? You obviously know he meant lucid so why question how he spelled it? Is it your life goal to demean everyone for any reason or are you just a complete ass on special occasions? Don't be so judgmental, after all, if he believes it is possible, then in his life, it is possible.. if you do not believe its possible, then in your reality, it is not possible.. with that being said, if I had a choice, I'd rather live a reality of possibility, as opposed to being a pessimist.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingYetiTeffa
Once in a dream I met a being who appeared to me like Krishna! And before he appeared to me as a Krishna look alike, he appeared to me as an eastern dragon of the same color! :)
He radiated love, compassion, understanding, and at the same time there was something psychedelic and consuming about this encounter! Consuming in that, once I was at his presence nothing else in the dream mattered. He was all there was. Being at his presence made me so aware. I was compelled to kneel before him, not in a worshiping fashion, but as if I was his student and he was my teacher. As if I just knew my cup was empty and he was going to fill it. As I sat by his feet like a small child he gave me lucidity/awareness lessons that I can apply to dreams or waking!
I instantly tried to apply his lesson, and to bring the dream into full clarity! Something very fascinating happened when I tried to bring this clarity to see him in full clarity!
Which brings me to this point. If you are in direct contact with a Higher Being the end result WILL effect your state of consciousness. Why? Because that is what a Higher Being is, a higher state, even a divine state of consciousness. And that is what a contact with said being means!Quote:
I agree with KingYeti. Since you would be dreaming at the time, most likely you would get a fictional figment of your dreams
How many dream characters do you know who's very presence takes your entire consciousness to a new level? To illustrate the impact he had on my consciousness, the first time I left his presence I lost all lucidity. Since I started recording my dreams at the age ten, he remains the ONLY dream character to directly effect my state of consciousness in this way.
A figment of your imagination at the end of the day holds no power over your state of consciousness. Because your state of consciousness created that figment of your imagination and not the other way around.
So I want to stress that when you come into contact with an Ascended Being/Higher Being/Higher Self, if your state of consciousness has not been altered then you are NOT in direct contact with said being!! Because, that is what said being is! CONSCIOUSNESS!
But there is an essence of imagination involved. The imagination comes into play in how said being would appear to you. So the CONSCIOUSNESS behind the dream character is REAL. But the appearance of said being is just ultimately an illusion. It can still be a powerful and symbolic illusion!
When I tried to see this blue-purple being standing before me with full clarity - the entire dream came into crystal clarity except for one feature. His face. His face melted away instead into something like water. And the more I focused on water the more the entire dream became that water. The water was glowing and reflecting light back to me. I could feel my dream falling apart, it was almost like ripping apart because of this waving reflecting light-water. The more I tried to see the more all I saw was this reflective light!
:) And then I woke up.
Here I am trying to see the truth of the being before me, and my dream gives me a vision of a powerful REFLECTION of light! That's why we have the term Higher SELF.
I'm glad to see an entry. There may or may not be some interesting things that are similar about our dreams. Any one else have any luck?
This is the Heart of my Path: Separating my Energy Body from my Tonal body in order to gain a perspective that I cannot in a normal experience - and to engage the wisdom of entities not tied to this Tonal experience.
Most of the work I do is done in the Dreamtime, though I separate my energy body from my tonal body consciously as well.
As for being "cool"... I guess the best way I can describe it is like this:
When I was very young, I remember looking up at cliffs, trees, even roofs of houses and thinking, "Wow... it must be "cool" up there."
The other day, I was on the roof our house cleaning out the gutters and my youngest daughter came out and asked, "Hey daddy... Is it cool up there?"
Yes. It was. It was lightly raining with a stiff wind and I was almost soaked to the bone. It wasn't just cool... it was freezing.
All things are done or experienced with purpose. Even the "cool" stuff.
Ok.. here was the main dream.
First my dream body jerked like lightning hit me. Wile dreaming I was wondering if some guys next to me that were playing cards when I dozed off might have seen my body flop like a fish. Then there was some weird period where there was a micro wave oven doing something.( the Microwave was broken and not sealed, and was turned on.) Then I saw my grandma. Then I was in a room with a guy in farmer cloths. His face was missing, but blackness was there instead. There was a (green)dragon in a meadow on the TV, lecturing about something that I don't remember. The farmer and I talked a bit and I asked him some questions, about his relations with humans. He agreed that a (small) lizard is to humans as we are to him. Also that it took about 5 minutes to learn to communicate with us.
This is the same as I wrote it down a couple of months ago, except for the parentheses which I threw in just now. I'm not too worried about making it a decent experiment any more, since there was not too much participation.