Accessing Other States from a Lucid Dream

For a long time now I`ve been interested in accessing a different Altered State of Consciousness (ASC) from a dream state, though I`ve found a disappointing amount on the subject. I have been a Lucid dreamer for as long as I can remember. I regularly have Lucid dreams and I`m proficent at controlling both the content and the depth of dream (how close to waking I am). The content can obviously vary as wildly as you want and the change in consciousness as you move between deeper and lighter sleep is interesting. But is it possible to move into any different ASC`s ? (off the normal wake-sleep curve)

The only attempt Ive made is a failed form of Zen meditation within a lucid dream. I entered with the priori that once in the dream I would begin a focus on breathing. I chose a focus on breathing as I have been practicing it in its normal way for sometime. I also thought that I may be able to feel the sensation of my breathing from the Lucid dream state. Unfortunately, I found I was unable to feel my breathing to focus on it. A few times I did feel a sensation of breathing but later realized this was not my real breathing but the something I had created in my mind.

I think the main problem with mindfulness meditations within a dream is it is pretty impossible to find something to solid to focus on that has not been constructed by your own mind. I am quite good at bringing a lucid dream close to wakening and have had a few experiences when I have heard events going on around me from the depths of the dream. I am considering experimenting with this; playing one of those CD`s thats designed to induce trance states and listening to it from the dream.

I would also like to have a go at some form of mantra from a dream. Unfortunately, I dont have any experience with mantra meditations. I suppose visual meditations are best suited to dreams, but dont visualisations meditations aim to lead to the lucid dream state anyway?

Does anyone has any techniques or ideas to move into a different state?

The one ASC thats oftened mentioned form lucid dreams is OBE`s. I am convinced that many of these are misrecognised and I get the idea that real OBE`s are very difficult to create. Having said that, if anyone has specific technique for creating an OBE from a Lucid state please let me know.

yah i was taking to this guy about oobes and he is a expert and he told the ways to do it are lucid dream,mantras and a few other things the way to do it in a lucid dream is to fly yourself out of the earth in your dream and he says that will meak a oobe if you want to talk to him his username is kratos137 on neopets.

Hi welcome to dreamviews, I think this link answeres your questions http://www.consciousdreaming.com/lucid-dre...experiences.htm

>yah i was taking to this guy about oobes and he is a expert and he told the ways to do it are lucid >dream,mantras and a few other things the way to do it in a lucid dream is to fly yourself out of the >earth in your dream and he says that will meak a oobe if you want to talk to him his username is >kratos137 on neopets.

I tried the flying myself away from the earth thing. I failed to reach any decent height with clear images. I guess it`s `cos I don`t often see images in waking life from that angle. When I lost clarity I was no longer zooming out. I’ll talk to kratos137 for some tips.





>Hi welcome to dreamviews, I think this link answeres your questions >http://www.consciousdreaming.com/lucid-dreaming/astral->projection-and-out-of-body-experiences.htm

The link did answer some of my questions – thanks. The suggestion thing “Increase levels of Lucidity now”, is brilliant. I can relate to the black void stage he talks about though can only occasionally get this state. I`ll keep practicing.

Not fully convinced it`s an OBE though. I thought the difference between a Lucid dream and an OBE is what you see in an OBE is actually happening in the “real” world? LD or OBE it`s helped show me the way to go all the same.

Cheers