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True. XD When dcs are like dream zombies I find it annoying so I guess it was a good idea for you to leave him after all

Or he would be standing there repeating- "doors are closed, I can't go through" even if there are no doors there He was behaving like dream zombie.

Lol Maybe he would have gone through if you busted the door open or unlocked it with an “open sesame”.

Well, that hadn't happened to me as long as I remember. Not in the house. I was stuck in a cave a few times, but I found way out- lucidity has its positives. You can wake up when you want, or you can go through walls... It is even possible to change surroundings, but that usually wakes me up.

I meant stuck inside the house...I have had dreams before where I cant get out of a dreamscape

It would be strange to get stuck in garage doors with head on one side and body on other one

Ok I thought you were going to get stuck glad you got out and about

Yeah I would be happy with just the state of mind gained by eye balling the goat/moufflon

Maybe first time I saw an animal while in OBE... If it was animal.
I never asked for to be taken to different level... not even here. I asked to be transported to different place here, and it was first time... a fluke, a momentary idea... Normally I sparsely find interaction able beings and this one I felt to be more powerful then myself.

Cool experience. The mountain goat sounds awesome. Did you have others take you to a different level before or is that the first time you asked?

Maybe I'm overthinking it just now...
But I believe that it would be more simple to do it while in a dream(inside imagination) where materialization takes part often, than to start dream from start in such specific environment... I simply know my present limits. Maybe in future it will be simple, but not now.

Well, meant to create fairy in the dream. I can create energy balls, and to imagine someone born from that energy may function.
What you understood from my message has merit, just my imagination is not that good. Directed imagination is more difficult, than random one... I am able to imagine simple things, but body isn't simple.

O.k. I'm sure it'll come to you if you keep trying though. Could it be that you just over think the details when you try to do it?

Well, meant to create fairy in the dream. I can create energy balls, and to imagine someone born from that energy may function.
What you understood from my message has merit, just my imagination is not that good. Directed imagination is more difficult, than random one... I am able to imagine simple things, but body isn't simple.

:3 Okay. 3 decades is quite a long time.I didn't really see WILD as imaginative much before tbh. Just random images/ process to get in a ld. But you reminded me how you can incorporate imagination. I tried WILD again last night after waking up from my first dream. It didn't work but It wasn't as demanding as I thought it would be. Create a fairy? Do you mean when your in the moment of going into the WILD? That's a cool idea. You might end up lucid in a forest full of fairies too.yeah,repetitive stuff can get pretty boring. ^^"

I have years and years of practice, don't expect to be successful on the first time. It is easier for me, since it is the same indifference to result I need to have to reach OBE. And I and I have more than 3 decades of training under my belt The only difference is that for WILD I use imagination and for OBE I simply go out of body when spiritual body is free of physical.
You don't need to leave your DILD method for going WILD. Simply use WILD as the second option.
I would like to try something in wild but I forget to experiment with that again and again... (because of focus aimed for stabilization and existence in a dream lucidly). I know how to create energy sphere, concentrate it and so on... but I got an idea to try and create a fairy... First to create small energy sphere in between my palms... I was thinking of sphere as of an egg, full of energy from which something like fairy could be born. It would be interesting to have conversation with such creation. You see, those experiences I have are quite repetitive, and I would like to try something new.

Yes, indeed... Maybe if certain conditions are met, the transmission could be received. Or maybe it is all only imagination. It needs to be reliable to have a proof.
I try that whenever I remember to do it. Pity, I didn't try to call my brother too, he is another person I try to contact...

It'd be cool if that experiment worked. :3 I remember a similar experiment I did when I was 13 I think. In WL I tried seeing if I could send a message to my cousin dream like dream telepathy. When I saw her again she told me she had a dream I was calling her in the sky. Could be coincidence though. I didn't try again after that.

OK, I think I have got it.
When I want to go WILD I don't push expectations forward, nor do I feel impatience. It happens or it happens not. I imagine simple moving circles (flight through tunnel) or flash images. I fall asleep often. But I got rewarded by interesting WILD if I don't. The key is patience and kind of indeference to the result.
I go for a result but I'm indeferent if I don't reach it.

If I did that it would probably be easier for me. When I feel like trying it again I will keep in mind I need to be indifferent/patient. It might take time to get use to doing it more though if I choose to continue with wild.I remember having the tunnel jump feeling and seeing the shapes before too. There was also a image of moving mountains which I found pretty cool. :3

OK, I think I have got it.
When I want to go WILD I don't push expectations forward, nor do I feel impatience. It happens or it happens not. I imagine simple moving circles (flight through tunnel) or flash images. I fall asleep often. But I got rewarded by interesting WILD if I don't. The key is patience and kind of indeference to the result.
I go for a result but I'm indeferent if I don't reach it.

Well, everyone has its own preferred method.
I just wonder, how do you know that you are more relaxed? You are waking to consciousness in a dream after all...

I relax more because I tell myself i'm gonna become lucid,(even though others say "I'm dreaming". Its just something I learned and became a habit) I do this for a bit than start imagining things that make me feel relaxed/happy until I fall asleep. If I was doing WILD I wouldn't be able to imagine the relaxing things and waiting a while for the WILD could frustrate me. There were times when I wasn't frustrated and waited patiently but i remember more impatient moments.hrmm.. I suppose it could also be that I like the non lucid part of the dream and look forward to seeing what my mind comes up with. If I did WILD that part would be missing.

Oh, also I tried concentrating on long lucid again but i ended up having a vivid non lucid dream that had some dream elements to it. : ) There was good and bad parts to it though. I will write it.