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    1. Psionik's Avatar
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      Well, everyone has its own preferred method.
      I just wonder, how do you know that you are more relaxed? You are waking to consciousness in a dream after all...
    2. <span class='glow_FF1493'>DawnEye11</span>'s Avatar
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      Thanks. That's true. I feel more comfortable with DILD cause I can relax more and my chances of getting a LD from a DILD is still good. I don't do reality checks in WL either. Usually after I become aware I can check but I don't do it as much though.My chances of getting a Wild is less since I don't make many attempts.^^" Maybe I'm also not determined enough to practice WILD.
      Updated 09-20-2017 at 05:02 PM by DawnEye11
    3. Psionik's Avatar
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      Congratulation! I had problems with short OBEs and LDs in past and I tried to find help... but only I could help myself. It is very subjective: The same thing may help to one man and be the failure for other one. But concentration is the basis.

      What makes you uncomfortable with WILD?
      For me it has major advantages-
      1. you go directly from waking life- best control
      2. DILD is chance based, reality checking doesn't function well for me because in dreams I conclude, that I'm not dreaming even if I have strange experiences.
      Of course any type of LD is better than none.
    4. <span class='glow_FF1493'>DawnEye11</span>'s Avatar
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      It is all about concentration. I laid down at about 00:30 and when I emerged from it it was about 2:45. While I can't say exact time of entering it, I can say, that it usually takes about 15 minutes to induce wild or I fall asleep.
      I tried concentrating the last night and it turned out to be longer. I will try concentrating again. I think ive been settling for short lucids for too long. Im not comfortable with WILD as much but ill try again with Dild. Thanks~
    5. Psionik's Avatar
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      It is all about concentration. I laid down at about 00:30 and when I emerged from it it was about 2:45. While I can't say exact time of entering it, I can say, that it usually takes about 15 minutes to induce wild or I fall asleep.
    6. <span class='glow_FF1493'>DawnEye11</span>'s Avatar
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      2 hours, nice I could use a long dream tonight.
    7. <span class='glow_FF1493'>DawnEye11</span>'s Avatar
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      It wasn't intentional! I don't come here often
      XD Hehe I know. Reading your entry I understand what its like now though.So thanks for the unintentional experience~
    8. Psionik's Avatar
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      It wasn't intentional! I don't come here often
    9. <span class='glow_FF1493'>DawnEye11</span>'s Avatar
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      You did what I was trying to do yesterday. Funny how it turned out to be your bed holding you back.
    10. <span class='glow_FF1493'>DawnEye11</span>'s Avatar
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      Ok, Ill try and be more of a observer. Thx for your advice. ^.^
    11. Psionik's Avatar
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      Try that maybe your dreams will become less exciting on the emotional side of equation, but they will gain something more stable, more real, more calm. It only depends whether you will like the result or if you like the current state more.

      The "fear complex" may be very detrimental... I think my wife has it too. It stops her to think rationally about unknown and seemingly dangerous situations. Yesterday, I spoke with one of the college at my work as I was waiting for machine to do its work, about OBE. She is enthusiastic, but also fearful, so she doesn't want to experience anything like that. Here comes the question- why to fear something you don't know... and never experienced. When I provide first hand explanation and examples what may happen and how to deal with that. I find such fear illogical But everybody is different, I can't judge other people because of their feelings about the matter. People should remember that everything depends on their mental and emotional state once experiencing LD... Or OBE.
    12. <span class='glow_FF1493'>DawnEye11</span>'s Avatar
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      I dont like scary movies. XD I do like some horror things but they aren't very graphic or gory. I know what you mean by the movie example though. Its just that even when I know its a dream If its something I dont want to be near I get scared and try to change setting or fly away from it. Its a habit I accumulated over time but even if I train myself and become better at dealing with it, I know ill have set backs. However, I will try to observe more. I don't do it all that much since I like interacting and doing things.

      I suppose I have a fear complex that shows in WL and my dreams. The things I have fears about, Im curious about. For example, I dislike cemetery but I'm curious about AP dreams. Im curious about the existence of others beside us such as angels, demons and God but I am afraid of becoming unclean in a way.>. <
      Updated 07-17-2017 at 06:09 PM by DawnEye11
    13. Psionik's Avatar
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      Ah... well.
      You see, I have experienced quite a more LDs and OBEs than I had written here. Sex in astral or in lucid dream is not that interesting like research of things. And when you take, that characters you meet there are mainly weak minded dream zombies... they may look great but their consciousness is weak or even zero. In this case, the consciousness of that girl was fully closed into only one thing- to make love.
      Next thing is, that sex is quite repetitive thing, there is nothing other than pleasure to gain from it. Well, maybe not nothing, I tried to do something like Tantra Yoga there, but without much success... I mean, I can control the whole experience to quite a great extent, it is similar to real world. My wife doesn't like that very much, it is taxing her, when I can do things for more than hour. It is simple, one just need mental control. But I expected there something more... hmmm mystical, something farther reaching. Maybe I need to train it more... but you know, with expectations the things start to happen in both, LD and OBE. Realism suffers - and that is the next aspect I'm researching, because it is more interesting to me.
    14. Psionik's Avatar
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      or you could describe it as being unnaturally passive and phlegmatic.
      When you look on horror movie in TV- do you feel fear? I don't. Lucid dreams are quite a bit more immersive experience, but even then- you know that you are dreaming... You can live in it, as if you are surrounded by an interactive movie.
      Try sometimes to take a step back from what you are experiencing in LD... be more observer, less indrawn... I know, it is easy to describe that by someone with tens of years of training and experience... But you will certainly manage that if you will train.
    15. <span class='glow_FF1493'>DawnEye11</span>'s Avatar
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      I guess it would be better to describe it as being calm or level headed than. But I meant it in a way that you didn't let fear get to you. :3 I still have problems with staying calm at times.
    16. LostTraveller9's Avatar
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      Why resist?
      You say it like your urges are bad.
      You'll have more dreams, Any activity you do in a dream that you couldn't normally do in real life is worth it, in my opinion.
    17. Psionik's Avatar
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      For me, it was straight forward. I was walking and observing. There was little action, the dream was quite long. But once I know that I'm dreaming, I have quite a bit of control. It is easy then to ignore things. It is like following some kind of line.
      I felt a little of fear when I was in the vicinity of demon,but it was only short pang of fear. It is like when you meet something unforeseen and you are surprised by that. I saw zombies from afar, so there was no fear. But I detected that demon was there all of the sudden.
    18. <span class='glow_FF1493'>DawnEye11</span>'s Avatar
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      Looks like your dream had lots of twists but its cool how you were always one step ahead.
    19. <span class='glow_FF1493'>DawnEye11</span>'s Avatar
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      Yeah, I understand. Life feels more meaningful if we do things and staying in the same state just to feel peace wouldn't give us the chance. Thx for explaining! I wouldn't want to take medicine either. I always pondered though how worse it would have to be for me to do that.
    20. Psionik's Avatar
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      hmmm.... maybe, I didn't thought about this in such way... But I think, tat ability to do something is something we should cherish, not wrong way of course. Therefore, from this point of view, I don't like that state from other states of mind... even if it is pure bliss. if you understand what I mean.

      Yes, thinking in classical form isn't good for OBE. At least for such OBE as I do.

      I don't want to take any medicine for that, even if I feel bad. I don't want to have my mind clouded, I don't like it.
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