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    1. Draeger's Avatar
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      It's interesting, I wouldn't have personally associated it's physical (im)plausibility as necessarily relating to how realistic it may seem. To me, what seems real is more in the realm of feeling than of thought-out rationality. Plenty of things feel real to me but that doesn't mean they are plausible. That's why I don't often refer to waking life as "real" life anymore; I find that especially as my recall has improved over the years, my dream reality has all the things I need for me to consider it real, real enough for me certainly.

      And I like your description, it seems pretty detailed in how you recall it, certainly seems interesting as something I might like to try drawing myself some time. I'm curious, did you not feel like adding those details to the DJ because you could remember them well enough anyway or for some other reason?
      Due to how I think reality is, which is that I don't think that anything can be made sense of considering how we are part of the system, which is actually contradictory since it might just be that we can make sense of it despite that because it just is like that, I guess I would think of it the same way. But I'm not quite fond of being isolated, at least going by the way most people define reality as being. If going by scientific laws, one would be fully alone in a dream, and I don't like that. It just feels uncanny to be as alone and helpless as one is in a dream, which amplifies itself considering that dreams often include fears as well.

      I didn't write that into the DJ because it seems that, when a dream is vivid enough for me to remember it for a while, it automatically sort of amplifies the recall of the dream over the course of up to a few days. Like, I just remembered that the cubes had smaller fractal-like crevices as well.
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      It's interesting, I wouldn't have personally associated it's physical (im)plausibility as necessarily relating to how realistic it may seem. To me, what seems real is more in the realm of feeling than of thought-out rationality. Plenty of things feel real to me but that doesn't mean they are plausible. That's why I don't often refer to waking life as "real" life anymore; I find that especially as my recall has improved over the years, my dream reality has all the things I need for me to consider it real, real enough for me certainly.

      And I like your description, it seems pretty detailed in how you recall it, certainly seems interesting as something I might like to try drawing myself some time. I'm curious, did you not feel like adding those details to the DJ because you could remember them well enough anyway or for some other reason?
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      It would be interesting to see a drawing or something of how you saw this structure. Was it on its own in empty space or was it in a star system?
      It seemed to be classed as a star (apparently I just knew that, as if I read it), but since it was so zoomed in on this massive structure, I wasn't able to see if anything was orbiting it.

      Well, I can't draw. But I guess I can describe it. It was spherical, as every celestial object is, but from afar it seemed to have a rough surface. On closer look, it has billions of large crevices (so large that you can probably fit whatever tower you want between such a crevice). It was white, and lit lightly, although this didn't seem to come from the star and was just there. There were a lot of sort of angled, huge cubes in these crevices, just placed artistically spread out from one another. There also seemed to be many smaller crevices within the crevices, so it was sort of fractal-like in detail. These smaller crevices usually quickly declined in size and ended up so small that a human can't fit into it anymore just a few meters in. And that was basically all I saw. Oh, and another thing I knew as if I read it was that the mass is comparable with the stars Betelgeuse and VY Canis Majoris.

      So, it was definitely not what I would call realistic. Under such gravity, no structure would be able to hold any shape except spherical, and it would quickly heat up, even if just by friction, that it would very quickly turn into an active star.
    4. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      It would be interesting to see a drawing or something of how you saw this structure. Was it on its own in empty space or was it in a star system?
    5. Draeger's Avatar
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      Well, my username feels related.

      An interesting dream to be sure; I would love to explore the idea of something like this in a lucid, and would also like to explore the idea of something that might "emit" darkness, which I guess is physically impossible; I would like to see what my mind would come up with.
      lol

      Well, and I love the feel of this dream. Like this creepy feeling; watching your friends fly into a completely unknown fate... I wonder what would happen if you follow them? It's like a simulation of flying into a black hole, with you going deeper and deeper into the darkness as the universe accelerates and blue shifts behind you until it doesn't exist anymore. Maybe I'll test that out some time.
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      Well, my username feels related.

      An interesting dream to be sure; I would love to explore the idea of something like this in a lucid, and would also like to explore the idea of something that might "emit" darkness, which I guess is physically impossible; I would like to see what my mind would come up with.
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      The amount of times I could have said this with my own dreams. I suppose not everyone works the same way, though I found myself getting too negative when making this type of remark on my dreams/dreamsigns and so eventually I stopped doing it, since I mostly felt I was frustrating myself by feeling like I'd "failed" instead of focusing on positives.
      Thanks for the tip.
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      (I should've gotten lucid right there, ugh)
      The amount of times I could have said this with my own dreams. I suppose not everyone works the same way, though I found myself getting too negative when making this type of remark on my dreams/dreamsigns and so eventually I stopped doing it, since I mostly felt I was frustrating myself by feeling like I'd "failed" instead of focusing on positives.
    9. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      Quote Originally Posted by Draeger
      I should really really reality check to the series I watch, shouldn't I?
      Possibly; personally my biggest difficulty with this type of stuff is having to remember initially that I want to make an interruption.

      Hopefully of some help, you can think about how you are about to start doing an activity and that during the activity, you might want to do a RC every so often, but I'd say you probably want the RCs to be cued by something a bit more specific, such as right after a key thing happens or when you see something specific that you know might appear; this can be applied to mostly anything really and I think it also helps when you are doing something that you can interrupt, such as by pausing or stopping the activity, because during a pause you can also think about why you are doing it (the RC and the activity) and think about whether reality is appearing "consistent" with what it should be or otherwise.

      For things that can't be paused, interrupted or stopped, such as conversations, driving, etc... Say you realise you should be doing a RC but for some reason you can't or don't find the motivation or whatever. As soon as you realise that you should have done a RC you can set an intention to do a RC at the next earliest possible moment whenever it's most convenient and when you do, the same as above, think about the whys and whether things are consistent, etc.
    10. Draeger's Avatar
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      I think the term you're looking for is digitigrade?

      And that's cool, sounds like it was still pretty detailed overall.
      Yep, digitigrade is what I meant. Wasn't sure how to describe it, it sort of just reminded me of how the high voltage symbol looks like.

      Thanks.
    11. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      The same goes for my back legs, except that they are sort of lightning shaped, to support the weight.
      I think the term you're looking for is digitigrade?

      And that's cool, sounds like it was still pretty detailed overall.
    12. Draeger's Avatar
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      Fair enough, that makes complete sense. At times I forget I've been like that too and can only hope that you can find some way of dealing with the current situation.

      By the way, I'm curious and if you can recall, what was your dragon transformation like, in terms of details? (colour, general shape/type, etc)
      Thanks.

      I knew I was a roleplay character I use that represents some part of my mind, which makes it easy to roleplay which is probably why it appeared.
      I was a blue dragon with horns at many areas around the head, with two right on top, symmetrically aligned and have a long neck. This goes on to my front legs, which are muscular and clawed, with individual "fingers" which have webbing in between. The same goes for my back legs, except that they are sort of lightning shaped, to support the weight. On my shoulders are many small spikes, as well as two single spikes on my two, large wings right at the tip, pointing forward. My tail is quite a few meters long and has many spikes on top, up until the end of them, just as on my neck.
      I even was just as much of a hot head as the character, except that I apparently had a human form in the dream, while the character doesn't. I had pretty basic sensation of size and a bit of claws and back, as far as I remember.
    13. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      Fair enough, that makes complete sense. At times I forget I've been like that too and can only hope that you can find some way of dealing with the current situation.

      By the way, I'm curious and if you can recall, what was your dragon transformation like, in terms of details? (colour, general shape/type, etc)
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      Although that wouldn't bother me so much now, I can definitely understand feeling embarrassed around family for writing up dreams if they were nearby or able to read them as I did it.

      Depending on a few things, like what your sleep is like, how long you sleep for, etc., you could always try waking up slightly earlier (15-30mins) than normal. The point of this is to allow yourself a bit more control over the part where you are just recalling or writing recall down.

      Personally I wouldn't try this every day since it would get exhausting for me, but you should be fine doing it a couple of times a week anyway, it depends on how you predict your days might go. With this slightly early waking up, you could still recall some dreams and write them down/make note of them (even just a few key words) without feeling like you're not being given the chance to do so.

      Also, in regards to remembering your mantra, if it's any help, I find that typically remembering to do those things is a bit poor at first for me; if you keep remembering that you haven't done it, you'll be likely to progressively improve at remembering it at the right time or when it's relevant anyway.
      Thanks.

      Honestly, it's just me dreading the fact that I will inevitably have to return to the stupid education that doesn't work and possibly die because of the virus, and I will probably always lay still in bed till I notice that I have to go in 15 minutes, no matter how early I wake up.

      Hm, that mantra thing is interesting to know. Thanks.
    15. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      Although that wouldn't bother me so much now, I can definitely understand feeling embarrassed around family for writing up dreams if they were nearby or able to read them as I did it.

      Depending on a few things, like what your sleep is like, how long you sleep for, etc., you could always try waking up slightly earlier (15-30mins) than normal. The point of this is to allow yourself a bit more control over the part where you are just recalling or writing recall down.

      Personally I wouldn't try this every day since it would get exhausting for me, but you should be fine doing it a couple of times a week anyway, it depends on how you predict your days might go. With this slightly early waking up, you could still recall some dreams and write them down/make note of them (even just a few key words) without feeling like you're not being given the chance to do so.

      Also, in regards to remembering your mantra, if it's any help, I find that typically remembering to do those things is a bit poor at first for me; if you keep remembering that you haven't done it, you'll be likely to progressively improve at remembering it at the right time or when it's relevant anyway.
    16. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      Over the last two years I had a lot of stress factors in my waking life that either prevented me from doing LD technique practices or made it difficult for me to focus on the techniques. The last lucid I had was also the first proper lucid dream I've had in a long time, other experiences in the last two years were not fully lucid or were only very small parts of longer non-lucid dreams. In my case, I also have to constantly manage my self-expectations and also deal with factors outside my control, regarding my body (and sleep quality).

      All in all, I only wanted to give you a friendly reminder that it's fine to lapse with awareness and practice. My advice would be, yes, try to focus on improving, but do not make yourself get to the point where doing the practice itself is stressful.
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      Fair enough, that makes sense, I didn't mean to explain something you already knew, just hoped it would be helpful. Good to know you are already familiar with it.
      Sorry, I did not mean to make it look like I was judging you for telling me. I just tend to explain things like that for no apparent reason.

      I understand; it concerns me that it can disturb you so much and I simply don't think I can imagine it properly, as it's not something I can fully relate to. I am hoping that you will overcome this fear/sensation with time.
      Those kind of dreams or fears in general aren't really an unusual experience for me anymore, and they don't really affect me all that much when the dream is over, except for particular dreams that happen every few years, but the fear from these particularly horrible dreams only lasts a week at most. I don't have a lot of fears that are bad, but I guess I have to pay for that by having a few irrational fears that scare to the deepest part of my psyche.

      And I had transformed into a giant anthropomorphic green lizard (link to the dream/DJ entry). The feelings were pretty consistent with my overall perception of the shapes, especially the feet/claws, tail awareness wasn't 100% there but I wasn't focusing on it and most of the dream's context didn't make me become more aware of it either except for when I was more lying down than standing. During that part I sort of felt my tail pressing/resting over my legs.

      This is amongst the most physical of my experiences with transformation; even in my childhood dreams where I took on a similar form, the degree of authenticity to the physical part wasn't really quite the same as this. It's really something I look forward to experiencing again, whenever that will be.
      That sounds really cool. I hope to be able to experience something like that at some point. A great motivation to get lucid again.
    18. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      I actually have already practiced the sort of "ghost limb" feeling for fun since a few years. I just had pretty horrible lucidity, so my mind jumped from thought to thought without really doing much logical thinking, so I couldn't utilize that practice yet.
      Fair enough, that makes sense, I didn't mean to explain something you already knew, just hoped it would be helpful. Good to know you are already familiar with it.

      I'd rather not. The dream still had this disturbing feeling attached to it since it was still connected to this demonic mineral/face from the catalog in the beginning, and that feeling and dread would probably make a potential LD less enjoyable, or possibly outright nightmarish.
      I understand; it concerns me that it can disturb you so much and I simply don't think I can imagine it properly, as it's not something I can fully relate to. I am hoping that you will overcome this fear/sensation with time.

      I'm curious, what'd you transform into and how was it?
      And I had transformed into a giant anthropomorphic green lizard (link to the dream/DJ entry). The feelings were pretty consistent with my overall perception of the shapes, especially the feet/claws, tail awareness wasn't 100% there but I wasn't focusing on it and most of the dream's context didn't make me become more aware of it either except for when I was more lying down than standing. During that part I sort of felt my tail pressing/resting over my legs.

      This is amongst the most physical of my experiences with transformation; even in my childhood dreams where I took on a similar form, the degree of authenticity to the physical part wasn't really quite the same as this. It's really something I look forward to experiencing again, whenever that will be.
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      In regards to how the tail felt, you might want to try practising imagining a "ghost limb" type feeling of having a tail like that while awake, as it might eventually let your dream mind simulate the sensation more accurately too, at least I personally believe so. For me this type of imagined limb feeling has always come kind of naturally while I'm awake (I can feel extra arms and other such things more or less at will) so I'm not sure how easy or difficult it is for others to practice imagined sensation in this way.
      I actually have already practiced the sort of "ghost limb" feeling for fun since a few years. I just had pretty horrible lucidity, so my mind jumped from thought to thought without really doing much logical thinking, so I couldn't utilize that practice yet.

      It was really satisfying to have a complete transformation in my last LD, so all I can say is that you can certainly look forward to continuing that practice.
      I'm curious, what'd you transform into and how was it?

      Even though you got interrupted/woken up in the end when trying to return to the dream, you could still try to continue exactly where you left off when you get back to bed for sleeping tonight. I would certainly give it a go anyway since the dream would still be somewhat fresh. Apart from that, probably continue as usual I'd say.
      I'd rather not. The dream still had this disturbing feeling attached to it since it was still connected to this demonic mineral/face from the catalog in the beginning, and that feeling and dread would probably make a potential LD less enjoyable, or possibly outright nightmarish.
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      In regards to how the tail felt, you might want to try practising imagining a "ghost limb" type feeling of having a tail like that while awake, as it might eventually let your dream mind simulate the sensation more accurately too, at least I personally believe so. For me this type of imagined limb feeling has always come kind of naturally while I'm awake (I can feel extra arms and other such things more or less at will) so I'm not sure how easy or difficult it is for others to practice imagined sensation in this way.

      It was really satisfying to have a complete transformation in my last LD, so all I can say is that you can certainly look forward to continuing that practice.

      Even though you got interrupted/woken up in the end when trying to return to the dream, you could still try to continue exactly where you left off when you get back to bed for sleeping tonight. I would certainly give it a go anyway since the dream would still be somewhat fresh. Apart from that, probably continue as usual I'd say.
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