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    Environmental Subconscious vs. Internal Subconscious

    by , 05-28-2012 at 04:51 PM (750 Views)
    05.28.2012
    Environmental Subconscious vs. Internal Subconscious (Non-lucid)

    NON-DREAM DREAM LUCID

    I thought since I'm on vacation for a few months before I go to college, that I would be able to sleep late and wake up late, nope, not really something to get too comfortable with. :/

    These distractions aren't set out to wake me up, but it feels that the more I wake up late, the more distractions I'm having, so this means I'm going to have to sleep early and wake up early.

    Anyway, below, I'm just going to put what I know, and I won't know everything of course, so if I sound like a know-it-all, it's because I'm trying to declare it with as much honesty as I can.

    It will have it flaws, I know that, but this is going to be for the "Awareness of your mind" thing for the Dream Yoga assignment lectured by Sivason:







    And because I like thinking, a lot, even if it may introduce the possibility that I might be contradicting myself, oh well.

    And also, we're going to have to work in order to get some bits of Sivason's knowledge on the class, which is good, because I have noticed that when people give knowledge just like that without the receiver having to contribute some passion themselves, they'll have it in their mind, but they'll never really learn from it.

    I guess the best teacher is yourself. It's good to gain knowledge from others, but if you can't take their knowledge, mold it in how you think, your schemata, perception, etc., you either become a clone of that person's ideals, or become a better person with added knowledge.

    Common sense right there, and I admit, I have moments where I take a person's knowledge for granted too, but when we remind ourselves of it, it shows that we're at least trying right?


    Environmental Subconscious vs. Internal Subconscious


    Environmental Subconscious:
    Okay, I'm not really good with the title of what I'll be talking about, but what I mean by Environmental Subconscious is pretty self-explanatory.

    Again, with this practical and subjective reasoning stuff, just to make sure people won't get irritated, I'll try to use some practical logic more.

    An environmental Subconscious, perhaps one of the most vague and sporadic manifestations of certain aspects of your mind. Doors, mirrors, water, rocks, grass, sky, anything.

    In a practical sense, your mind is essentially collecting experiences, images, etc. that you never or rarely take the chance to incorporate into daily conscious acknowledgement.

    You know what I mean by that, it's not that difficult to understand. These fabrications from your beautiful mind, your powerful mind, the mind that you might underestimate because of your practical reasoning, could be signs of so many things.

    How you interpret them.....ugh, that word alone, interpret, ugh, it's so BORING.

    I would love to interpret dreams, but I've made it apparent with all those possibilities that demotivate me from holding it to an absolute truth.

    But, to be open-minded, if you believe your dream environment is your subconscious in a sense, how you see things in your environment, and how your environment, or the environment I should say, can be utilized as a means of enlightenment.

    I don't really need to explain much.......what would you think about these occurring or being apparent in your dream environment?

    Fire:
    Conflict, danger, passion, rage, anger, intense, etc.

    Water:
    Calming, relaxing, peace, Depth (oceans, etc.), flowing, soothing, serenading, etc.

    Earth:
    Solid, firm, absolute, molding, malleable, durable, strong, enduring.

    That's taking the Environmental Subconscious to the rudimentary recognition.

    Lol, these fancy words....anyway,

    Environmental could even be the dream characters you meet in your dreams, if you want to include human beings/whatever beings in the equation....

    Deformed people in your dreams, at least in my opinion, could be expression insecurities, repressed desires, things like that.

    But those representations are not confined only to those common sense associations though.

    People who look perfect, beautiful, hot, sexy, appealing, enticing, they could mean the same thing like the deformed dream characters.

    To me, seeing meaning in representations of certain dream characters, and the environment itself is complicated, because I know I over-analyze some things, almost all the time, but never really take the time to write them down because it'll just send me into a long ramble like I am doing now.

    Hm.....

    Am I that annoyed with these thoughts making themselves apparent in my head? If I wanted to, I could pick one topic with dreaming, go on and on and on, until my head runs out of things without repeating concepts over again.

    Okay, distracting myself now, but I'm releasing these thoughts that usually would be suppressed because I somehow feel insecure putting it in writing, or typing...bleh.

    Environmental subconscious, it's so complicated and yet so simple....what I mean by complicated is just that when you hold on to one temporary belief when your interpret one aspect of the environment, and then linking it to other possibilities.....

    And what I mean by simple is that it so sporadic, so spread out, so simple to view, to experience...that is what I mean.

    But when you take interpretation, analyzing it, that's when becomes complicated.

    Things like seeing a T.V., couch, chair, water bottles, socks, clothes, guns, and so many other things, when I try to find meaning in those, I know that I'll get bored easily.

    Because to me, getting serious on the efficacy of the manifestation of a sock would just be silly and too into the thought of one single object.

    I mean, would anyone want to write 5 pages on the importance of socks in their dreams?

    Lol.

    All right,

    Environmental Subconscious with Dream Yoga

    Okay, here's the important part. In my opinion, at least the opinion that was sustained in my mind at this moment, the purpose of those sensory perception exercises (More specifically, the Exercise 1 and its levels) made by Sivason is to just pay attention of the potential that our mind can exhibit.


    Everyday, we ignore minor and subtle changes in sound, because if it doesn't really have any kind of importance for us sustaining our mortal body as long as possible, it's just going to be ignored.

    If something is worth listening to, it will be acknowledged, processed, and then stored into long term or short term memory.

    That's basic psychology, nothing fancy or "oh my god, you're sooooo deep!"

    Sounds that would be categorized into long term memory, footsteps, people talking, birds chirping (unless you live somewhere where birds aren't really something common), etc.

    These things, in my opinion, have a greater chance to be ignored, because our mind, which likes to fill in the gaps as quickly as possible, will already try to predict and associate how something might sound based on prior experiences.

    And with dreaming, the mind just goes CRAZY with such simplicity at a much faster rater than in waking life.

    And when you take into consideration that if you can block external senses in waking life, and shift your focus in dreaming senses, it just takes that to a whole new level of awareness.

    I haven't done much with the Exercise 1, Level 1, because I wanted to get used to doing it passively before getting serious on it. (if you don't know what I mean by that, check Sivason's Course on Dream Yoga)

    I think Sivason is putting those Exercises there as the rudiments....the fundamentals of the purpose of the course.

    And I believe Sivason is putting them out and early on purpose, because I know he knows that there are going to be some students who might not really pay attention to the efficacy that each Exercise can provide.

    What do I mean by efficacy? Simple really....promoting more lucidity of course!

    Sivason puts it out there because these are part of the things he has practiced himself, and I'm sure he has deeper concepts and exercises that makes introspection and speculating inevitable.

    Which is good, because do we honestly analyze how we feel in our dreams? Do we always have a decent recognition of dream sounds? Do we take those sounds in our dreams for granted?

    I think so, because I know I do. All those dreams I posted, I've heard generic sounds. Gun shots of shooting guards, the swooshing sound as I accidentally kill someone out of fear of being killed.

    The echoes of dream characters being augmented as I think more about myself, you know...when you're in Cafeteria or some place busy, you look around, and you don't see a lot of people moving their mouths, but there's just so much sound waves of their voices bouncing back and forth that makes it even more confusing.

    I hope I'm not the only that notices something common like that.

    Honestly, I know that in the future, I will add sounds as an important part with awareness of the mind in waking life and in dreaming life.

    I don't mean just recognizing generic sounds, but more subtle and rare sounds....those things that would be stored into short-term memory.

    Okay, done with that, because I ran out of things to think about.

    Now for the good part, at least what I think is good.

    Internal Subconscious:

    Having a single entity being a vessel for your subconscious to release unconscious expressions stored in that secret vault or whatever is much more appealing to me.

    You already know where I'm going to go with this, Dream guides.

    Having an entity that you know will be individual, someone that won't be influenced by your expectations....you know what I mean...when you want them to say something, and then they say it.

    There's no fun if all your expectations become apparent, right? Unless you like control in your dream, maybe, but if you want unique and individual thoughts from your own mind, someone to reflect on, it is more beneficial to have a separate entity from your own.

    I am contradicting myself when I say that, because in the practical sense, and me trying my best not to get to subjective with the dreaming plane, shared dreaming, astral plane, etc.

    I know, because my subconscious is me. Your subconscious is your subconscious, so it's hard to try and distinguish it as a separate entity in your dreams right? Because in waking life, it would be considered abnormal to indulge in the fantasy that you have separate beings inside your mind.

    It just wouldn't make sense right?

    That's only if you use practical reasoning, and that's proof that practical reasoning itself is limited only to a person's knowledge gathered from waking life, or the life that they lived most of the time.....at least what they believe they spent most of their time in.

    Haha, I added the possibilities of other lives right there, see what I did right just now?

    Subjective reasoning makes things like that much more relaxing, as long as there isn't too much ambiguity to it (uh oh! I added practical reasoning to subjective reasoning there too!).

    All right, back to the Internal Subconscious thing.

    Having a connection to your subconscious is something that can be amazing, and excluding the potential for higher beings exhibiting higher frequencies that can often make a person feel very emotional in a positive sense, it can be very rewarding and provide a boost in self-esteem.

    Just imagining someone you can have in your arms, someone you can rest your head on their lap, wouldn't that be something worth waiting for when you drift into sleep?

    I'm associating romantic feelings with dream guides, but I can't help myself. I just feel that if you have romantic feelings with your dream guide(s)...it can just add on your overall respect for them.

    This is excluding the potential that one might take it too far with the romantic tendencies.

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    Spoiler for Music:


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    I think that listening to songs in waking life is something else that we take for granted. We listen to them to fade from reality for a while, but do we really take advantage of how it can make you feel in your dreams?

    Imagine feeling those surge of positive emotions being expressed with each beat, feeling the tingling sensation starting from your head and trickling down slowly into your spine to be released throughout your whole body.

    Powerful enough to make you cry and feel good crying. Tears of joy.

    I'll stop there, because I'll get too emotional just thinking about it more.

    It doesn't hurt to get some positive treatment from dreaming, even if you don't think you deserve it.


    I hope that someday, I'll make drawings of my dreams, and add music to them, in hopes to motivate people to express their experiences, if they're willing to devote the time to it... Hopefully....


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    Updated 05-28-2012 at 05:17 PM by 47756

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    1. Dreamprofesser's Avatar
      Link, you make some very interesting points here. I certainly believe that music can impact the way we all dream. In fact, i find that by listening to certain songs more thruout the day is likely to effect the way we all dream. I listen to a variety of music thruout the day, and find that my dreams consist of whatever i have been listening too.

      But like, if i listen to classical music more before bed, i find that my dreams take on a more dramatic or more of a mafioso type of dream. If i listen to alot of R&B music form the early 90's, (i rarely listen to music from this generation for a variety of reasons, only if they are a artist that people rarely know of) 60's or 70"s classic oldies music, my dreams seem to take on more of a movie theme at times.

      But this is certainly a experiment that i have been trying out for the past few years or so, and certainly hope you get great results from experimenting with them man. Goodluck buddy, and may you get many many more lucid dreams.
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