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    by , 04-29-2012 at 08:01 AM (741 Views)


    I hope you have some time to watch this Kaomea, you probably have a sense of what this woman will be saying if you do watch it, but it does make me consider on who I'm interacting in dreams.

    I can see why you want to see future selves of other people. I don't think you're doing it because you want all the spoils, and seeing them at a state that is supposed to be the epitome of their whole being, I think you're digging deeper into trying to eradicate any preconceptions you may have for another person.

    Which leads me to believe that part of you is seeing a part of me in your dreams where my soul is essentially deceit-free, even though I'm not feeling it right now because of my sporadic nature in emotions in waking life lately. Going from passive to stressful, and to even small contemplations of degrading my life to the point where my dreams are the only way for me to have some modicum of hope that this reality is still worth going through.

    You've mentioned that experiences in your dreams are meant to enhance waking life, and from watching the same video, it's clearly obvious omcasey1 sees things in a different light now, and if you do watch it, you'll see she admits to being more considerate, thoughtful, and appreciative of others and the environment around her.

    But the question I have for you, Kaomea, is there a point in your life where you might see things differently to where you see this dimension in another dimension like casey did in the video?

    I would like to believe what casey said, but this is something that has to be done on personal means. But near the end of the video, she is a bit confusing, for me at least.

    It seems she's mentioning she's shifting towards the mentality of Solipsism, but at the same time, it's not believing only she is real, she starts to connect it to how all of us can create this sort of universal collective consciousness.

    Again, it's hard for me to believe this until I experience these things myself, and because I know I still have preconceptions and bias towards dreaming, despite knowing that I found some things about you in your earlier life, it makes me wonder if because we have a liking for each other as friend that we're open the other person entering our realm.

    I don't mean that as invading your minds, just seeing each other in the dreaming plane.

    I can see why AA Michael declared his perspective to you on the person you meet in your dreams is essentially stages of their whole being, sometimes it can be an evolution, or it can be a regressed state.

    I honestly do not think it's unhealthy for you to only search for future selves of myself or anyone else, that is, if you already accept infinite realities into the equation, and infinite you's, and me's....I think I'm starting to understand Michael clearly now. It's making more sense to me.

    But still, because I'm inexperienced compared to you Kaomea, seeing the world based on being accustomed to this reality, it is still difficult for me to full comprehend and feel the type of energy casey in the video must be saying, but that's further proof that I should strongly consider dreaming lucidly.

    I'll just put that as a long-term goal, to see things in a different dimension. To see this world in a different plane, because even though I'm clearly open to this possibility, it's my mentality of this world that constrains the potential for me to understand things clearly.

    Anyway, I wanted to mention that to you, Kaomea.

    When we do meet each other in the dreaming plane, promise me you'll stare at my eyes deeply, and tell me whether or not you still feel the same vibe from other projections/stages/evolutions of myself.

    Because if not, I will ask youeventually.

    Because when I see you in my non-lucid dreams, I see parts of you that are passive, and sometimes I wonder if you do that on purpose to tempt me to take the lead instead of being submissive most of the time.

    What I'm saying is, with someone who is used to astral and etheric experiences, you sure do sustain a type of humbleness that makes me question whether or not I'm experiences patches of who you are.

    Are my eyes set on looking at you in the past, rather than the future? Is this my way of my higher self understanding you quickly because He/she/it wants me to live in the past to understand why you want to see me in the future?

    Tell me, are you sure your seeing my in the future, Kaomea?

    It could all just be expectations you know............of who you want me to be......

    Which relates to how you like as much fun as you can from your dreams, but still having control when DC's get out of hand or get too "subjective" with you.

    Tell me,

    What will you do when I start being too subjective, and things get out of hand?

    Will you constrain me with bolts like you did with Hades?

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


    If Hades himself, or your projection of him can experience humility from being constrained by bolts, then the possibility of me going out of control is still there.

    Anyway, that's all for now.

    But I'll leave you with this.....


    When I do attempt to dream, people in waking life tend to be insignificant to me. I don't mean your typical "this is a second life" kind of mentality...I literally forget about these people when I do become lucid.

    At least, that happens most of the time when I enter the dream state from a WILD, and not a DILD/MILD.

    When I do become accustomed to lucidity, I'm afraid there might be some parts of myself you won't like. But I just want you to know that when that time comes, acknowledge those dislikes of yours.

    Remember what I said about what it takes to have a long relationship with someone? Even though you have more experience than me, you deemed what I declared as "lovey-dovey" and "cheesy."

    I admit, sometimes when I do exhibit a romantic type of mentality, I feel awkward and think I shouldn't be doing this, because it feels cheesy and not worth it.

    But I think one reason for that is because this world has so many people to the point where romanticism is basically a fairy tale. Anyone with the right words can tempt a woman/man in their arms, and when they realize it's the wrong person they exhibited this "love" towards, it's already too late.

    Which is why I'm still insecure about having relationships in waking life. There's just so many possibilities, so many "What if I met this person instead of that?"

    "What if I met someone more beautiful?"
    "What if I met someone more intelligent?"
    "What if I met someone more sociable?"
    "What if I met someone more fragile?"
    What if I met someone more kind and loving?"
    What if I met someone more thoughtful?"

    It's always more, more, more, more, more.


    I may not understand why you wanted to engage in taboo and irrational relationships in the past, but based on what I'm insecure about with relationships and all, I think I understand why you went down that path before.

    There's always the possibility of meeting someone better than the person you have now.

    When we find a lover in our lives, even though attractive people still spark an interest to the person, that same person will always believe their lover is better.

    But what makes me think that they're saying that is because they have added security, the risk of abandonment is low, and exhibiting effort towards someone who could be better is pointless when they have someone who can satisfy their needs.

    Sometimes I wonder if this is the subjective matter of how our body dilutes our perception of things like the Selfish Gene Theory, where we are only considerate for augmenting the possibility that our genes will be passed on to the future.

    People try to deny and think we're more than just animals who want to pass our genes, but really, who are the ones being fooled here?

    If we're so complex to not have to full believe in that standard that we here to pass on our DNA to the next offspring, what does that say about humans in general?

    Could our minds be declaring this to us to make us feel better, to make us feel that we're not just here being vessels to pass on traits to another vessel?

    Are we really more than just animals? Are we just high and conceited of our own kind, humanity, to be able to think that we're the only ones on this planet, and possibly the universe as a whole to think we can pass on more than just our genes???

    That doesn't even relate to what I'm trying to tell you, I think.......


    Anyway. Good night...or good morning I should say....lol.

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    1. TheForgotten 's Avatar
      Which leads me to believe that part of you is seeing a part of me in your dreams where my soul is essentially deceit-free, even though I'm not feeling it right now because of my sporadic nature in emotions in waking life lately.
      When I see people, I generally see their honest selves. Sometimes it's not a matter of being deceit free because I've seen some people I know in waking life, who I barely knew at the time and their dream version was a complete ass when their waking life version didn't show any signs of assiness. Then as I got to know them better in waking life, they were just very very careful about revealing various aspects of themselves... and their dreaming self turned out to be pretty accurate.

      So it's not that I'm getting the ideal or good version.. I'm just getting their real selves. Or so that's been my experience. Granted of course their real self can change and transform but without significant motivation to do so, it might not change.

      You've mentioned that experiences in your dreams are meant to enhance waking life, and from watching the same video, it's clearly obvious omcasey1 sees things in a different light now, and if you do watch it, you'll see she admits to being more considerate, thoughtful, and appreciative of others and the environment around her.
      I try to live by the idea that if something doesn't enhance life, it probably doesn't need to be a part of it. Yes, it's clear as she becomes more aware and conscious of the varying realities and of her higher self, she's learned to become more considerate, thoughtful, and appreciative. It's just really difficult to hold that vibration for long stretches of time... I mean, who wants to be nice all 24 hours of the day?! That's a serious question.... lol, it takes a lot of energy to behave consciously. Autopilot is so much easier.

      But the question I have for you, Kaomea, is there a point in your life where you might see things differently to where you see this dimension in another dimension like casey did in the video?
      Yes. I have in fact. It takes a lot of stepping away from this reality to be able to view it as an external life but dreaming is excellent for that sort of thing.

      I would like to believe what casey said, but this is something that has to be done on personal means. But near the end of the video, she is a bit confusing, for me at least.
      Yes, it is a personal journey. The ending is just her referring to the abstract idea that there is no 'I' ... it's 'we'. Everyone is a reflection, which implies an individual... but if the idea is built further, if everyone is a reflection, each individual has their own reflection and we serve as reflections for everyone else. Which makes it really one big orgasm of reflections which work in a really complex manner. Or that's at least how I interpret it.

      Again, it's hard for me to believe this until I experience these things myself, and because I know I still have preconceptions and bias towards dreaming, despite knowing that I found some things about you in your earlier life, it makes me wonder if because we have a liking for each other as friend that we're open the other person entering our realm.
      I think we have a liking for one another and are open to one another. It's not a difficult thing... it's just the willingness to allow someone else into your personal space. The mind just happens to be very personal to some. Boundaries are important though. I might be a pest but if I know I'm not wanted I'm pretty respectful of others wishes... that and I pay attention to how they'd like to interact versus what I want. There has to be a mutual understanding and level of respect, I mean, it's not nice to be invited into someones house and rearrange their furniture. There are unspoken courtesies which I think go along with opening the door to shared anythings. Just my thoughts on that.

      I honestly do not think it's unhealthy for you to only search for future selves of myself or anyone else, that is, if you already accept infinite realities into the equation, and infinite you's, and me's....I think I'm starting to understand Michael clearly now. It's making more sense to me.
      Good, I'm glad you don't think it's unhealthy Lol. I generally don't aim for a specific version... unless there's a reason to. Typically I just meet someone and have to determine who they are... I do try to get their genuine self, as it would be a waste of time to get anything other than that. Whereever they fall in their spectrum of evolution is fine with me. No biggie.

      But still, because I'm inexperienced compared to you Kaomea, seeing the world based on being accustomed to this reality, it is still difficult for me to full comprehend and feel the type of energy casey in the video must be saying, but that's further proof that I should strongly consider dreaming lucidly.
      Lolololol. Experience is relative. It's good you're interested in seeing various perspectives and are open to exploring other mindsets. I mean, you might happen to find something that serves you better than your current set of beliefs.

      I'll just put that as a long-term goal, to see things in a different dimension. To see this world in a different plane, because even though I'm clearly open to this possibility, it's my mentality of this world that constrains the potential for me to understand things clearly.
      Sometimes just the desire to see things differently will land you where you'd like to be. You'll find ways to behave which supports your desires.

      When we do meet each other in the dreaming plane, promise me you'll stare at my eyes deeply, and tell me whether or not you still feel the same vibe from other projections/stages/evolutions of myself.
      Sometimes it's about the eyes... but other times it's not. I've looked you in the eyes... haven't had a reason to gaze... you're pretty understandable. I don't think I've seen you at other stages than the near-present. I can say that different versions of people generally hold the same vibe which identifies them as them. Except the mindset and maturity is different.. goals and aspirations have a different feel to them. I wish I could show you what I mean, I think you'd find the differences pretty cool.

      Because when I see you in my non-lucid dreams, I see parts of you that are passive, and sometimes I wonder if you do that on purpose to tempt me to take the lead instead of being submissive most of the time.
      I generally do not like to be too controlling (dominate) because I don't want to hinder the creativity of the person I'm with. That and being a dominate takes effort. The dominate sets the stage... and when I'm with other people, who I think would benefit from exploring their own talents, I don't want to discourage their own explorations. That and I just really like seeing what other people come up with. They give me good motivation for my own exploits. I'm totally ok with taking a back seat and letting others run the show... except of course when things like raids or battles ensue... then it's less about creative explorations and more about badassery.

      What I'm saying is, with someone who is used to astral and etheric experiences, you sure do sustain a type of humbleness that makes me question whether or not I'm experiences patches of who you are.
      I'm fortunate to know there are many many many many people/things out there who are more talented and skillful in many areas than I am. Everyone has something I can benefit from... to think otherwise is just ignorant... or is it arrogant? Anyway, I'm sure you're seeing patches of who I am... but patches make up a whole. That and we often see what we're searching for and we are often shown what others want to show. The key (in my opinion) is to learn to broaden the field of vision so that what's seen is what's there.

      Are my eyes set on looking at you in the past, rather than the future? Is this my way of my higher self understanding you quickly because He/she/it wants me to live in the past to understand why you want to see me in the future?
      I don't try to see you in the future because it's not relative to anything at the moment. That and I'd prefer present versions because everything else has either already happened or hasn't happened yet. I think you see what you need to see in order to understand. Controlling who we see isn't always a choice.

      Tell me, are you sure your seeing my in the future, Kaomea?
      Haven't seen your future self yet I think. All are very closely related to the present.
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    2. TheForgotten 's Avatar
      It could all just be expectations you know............of who you want me to be......
      Very true.

      What will you do when I start being too subjective, and things get out of hand?
      I have the ability to ignore or mute my imagination when required. Although, harmless chaos is fun to watch.

      Will you constrain me with bolts like you did with Hades?
      Of course not. Hades was supposed to be a figment of my imagination. Which meant I thought it logical to use imaginative powers. You are real to me. So I'd probably just toss you into a cage to let you cool off if you needed it.

      If Hades himself, or your projection of him can experience humility from being constrained by bolts, then the possibility of me going out of control is still there.
      Anything is possible.

      When I do attempt to dream, people in waking life tend to be insignificant to me. I don't mean your typical "this is a second life" kind of mentality...I literally forget about these people when I do become lucid.
      Awww. Sometimes real people are especially entertaining to dream of.

      When I do become accustomed to lucidity, I'm afraid there might be some parts of myself you won't like. But I just want you to know that when that time comes, acknowledge those dislikes of yours.
      Lol. Only if it's something really annoying will I mention it. I'm normally ok with other people, ya know... I mean, I let them do them and so long as I'm allowed to do me, it's all good. I mean, I still might shoot you just for shits and giggles but everyone has weird quirks. I don't expect others to be perfect or fit into a mental mold. Just do what's right for you.

      Remember what I said about what it takes to have a long relationship with someone? Even though you have more experience than me, you deemed what I declared as "lovey-dovey" and "cheesy."
      Sorry. Don't mind me, I don't really like the lovey dovey stuff... ok, I do, but I prefer a twist on the traditional version of what's considered lovey dovey. Nothing wrong with cheesiness. Goes great on bread.

      I admit, sometimes when I do exhibit a romantic type of mentality, I feel awkward and think I shouldn't be doing this, because it feels cheesy and not worth it.
      Seriously, if it feels right to you... do it. You're not going to make everyone happy and you shouldn't try. Not everyone will like you or your views. The key is not to care Go on with your bad cheesy self. Just as guaranteed as it is that you won't please everyone, find relief in that you're guaranteed to find someone you do please. The key is to know how to hold on with one hand while releasing the other.

      But I think one reason for that is because this world has so many people to the point where romanticism is basically a fairy tale. Anyone with the right words can tempt a woman/man in their arms, and when they realize it's the wrong person they exhibited this "love" towards, it's already too late.
      Hrm. I don't think it's all about the words but for some people it very well might be. That and sometimes preferences change. Sometimes we do regret choices. Doesn't make it wrong though. Just means it's time to go back to the drawing board and alter the design.

      Which is why I'm still insecure about having relationships in waking life. There's just so many possibilities, so many "What if I met this person instead of that?"
      Yeah... many people have this issue, lol.

      "What if I met someone more beautiful?"
      "What if I met someone more intelligent?"
      "What if I met someone more sociable?"
      "What if I met someone more fragile?"
      What if I met someone more kind and loving?"
      What if I met someone more thoughtful?"

      It's always more, more, more, more, more.
      Just keep in mind, skillsets vary and it's more about what fits you and what you're looking for and not what is socially acceptable or held high.

      I may not understand why you wanted to engage in taboo and irrational relationships in the past, but based on what I'm insecure about with relationships and all, I think I understand why you went down that path before.
      Oh, because I'm retarded. Haha... actually I just like to explore different things and I think I needed those experiences to really understand a number of things about life. I don't really know but we'll pretend like that's the reason.

      There's always the possibility of meeting someone better than the person you have now.
      Of course there is. But after a while it becomes less about the other person and more about how you feel when you're around that person. If you want to 'own' someone awesome and have them as a trophy, then sure, that works and you should by all means filter though the varying degrees of what's considered trophy material. But the way I view it is... why trade someone who makes me feel confident, strong, empowered, sexy, intelligent, creative, etc... and that's the way I try to live my own relationships. I want to enhance another life... because that's where the value is. People are less sacrificing of people who nurture who they are. Trust me, I've had this happen numerous times... and it's not just in regards to sexual relationships... friendships too. When you support others, they eventually learn and trust themselves around you. That sort of feeling isn't one people are quick to discard.

      When we find a lover in our lives, even though attractive people still spark an interest to the person, that same person will always believe their lover is better.
      Perspectives vary from person to person.

      But what makes me think that they're saying that is because they have added security, the risk of abandonment is low, and exhibiting effort towards someone who could be better is pointless when they have someone who can satisfy their needs.
      Yeah...but the 'needs' can become increasingly complex. Remember, people change. If our partners don't change in the same way we do... what happens?

      Sometimes I wonder if this is the subjective matter of how our body dilutes our perception of things like the Selfish Gene Theory, where we are only considerate for augmenting the possibility that our genes will be passed on to the future.
      Relationships aren't all about biology. Environment plays a part. But I'm sure biology plays a significant factor.

      If we're so complex to not have to fully believe in that standard that we here to pass on our DNA to the next offspring, what does that say about humans in general?
      It means we think?
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    3. Linkzelda's Avatar
      It means we think?
      Oh really? That's sooo intriguing....

      No like, what I mean is how we set ourselves high on the food chain, and how we label other organisms and such. Being trapped in this small blue sphere we call Earth. It's like until Space travel is possible, and I mean traveling in many lengths in space, it just seems we're just being all high and mighty just because we seek to know everything that there is on this planet, while being ignorant of other possible life forms.

      Anyway, I'm probably not making sense, it's like.........We won't have another "The world is actually round instead of flat!" moment for a long time now.
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    4. TheForgotten 's Avatar
      It'll only seem like a long time if you view time as linear

      If you just shove time into a wadded paper ball, it's not as long.







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