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    In the future with Jude Law

    by , 12-07-2013 at 02:27 AM (825 Views)
    Date: 06 Dec

    Was supposed to do a wbtb, but felt really sleepy, so I just kept nervously waking up and falling asleep again. Was more deeply asleep than usual, had a pretty cool dream and a mini-ld at the end.

    Dream: In some city of the future, there are business people walking on the street. I am in some sort of transportation, with tables in the middle. The guide is talking about us opening the fancy books on the table, but I don't have one. The guy (to be JL) in front of me gives me his book.

    My attention is then drawn by the resting yogi platforms on the street. Initially a few, then many (DS), looking extremely interesting, like two rows of beige hammocks, each hammock cell uniquely decorated with some tribal art. These seem to continue down the street like forever (DS) and an old sadhu is horizontally resting on each one. I notice I am making sounds with my mouth as if playing a didgeridoo. Amongst the individual cells for the yogis are a few reporters from National Geographic. As I think about these reporters, the face of one of them turns into a human tiger face.

    We are still in the transportation and the guide explains about some sort of formation, that I think I noticed is in the sand between each cell? It's like a barely visible vortex in the sand, but when he explains about the formation, I begin to see as if looking on a screen, a computer model graphics of a donut shape. He explains that this formation is the result of the wind and some electromagnetic particles which when falling get to form this shape over time, due to magnetic influences.

    There are different types of futuristic cars flying in the air near us. They look like mini planes, but flatter, wider and made from some sort of black material.

    The guy that gave me his book is now Jude Law. Near the windows are many interesting (DS) bottles of fancy cosmetics. My attention is torn between him and them, but I touch his arm and leave my hand there, waiting for reaction. He doesn't seem to mind and keeps his arm in the same position. At some point he is eating a pack of dried/transforming to fresh blueberries and offers me some, I refuse.

    I begin examining the various cosmetics they have. Some sun tanning stuff and lots of colorful bottles and boxes of expensive cosmetics. I turn to Jude and say that one thing hasn't changed in the future and that is that some cosmetics are still prohibitively expensive. Then I take a purple box of face cream and read out what the benefits are supposed to be, reversing the meaning to the total opposite, my speech turning into a funny negative campaign for L'oreal. Jude is enjoying it too.

    I nervously wake up, remember the totm, and go back there.

    DEILD: Jude is to my right now and we are still in some sort of transportation. I briefly wonder whether to announce that this is about TOTM, but just say, "Please give me a present", or something along those lines. He looks at me surprised, especially after my long cosmetics speech, like he didn't expect me to want anything from him. I add "It can be something small", thinking it doesn't have to be expensive. He comes closer and gives me a super sexy kiss. We continue kissing for a while, while I contemplate this. The dream fades and I head for the journal.
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    Updated 12-07-2013 at 02:38 AM by 61764

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    1. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      Crazy setting there at the beginning, very cool! Chained it up into a nice LD, too, where you managed to roll Task of the Month and making out all into one dream! Now that is lucid dreaming done right, ha ha...

      Congratulations on getting lucid even without the WBTB. Looks like you took good advantage of the frequent wakings you experienced by using a little DEILD. I haven't had the chance to WBTB much recently and I've been wondering how to make something happen without it. DEILD's probably the way to go!
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    2. Highlander's Avatar
      Wow congratulations on the memorable TOTM! I see what you mean now (referring to your earlier post, etc.)

      I thought you nearly blew it with the blueberry refusal beforehand.
      I liked the part about the purple face cream which would make a good Ad campaign:
      L'oreal - "Because you are worth it!"

      I'm going to have to learn this DEILD malarkey. Any tips!?
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      Updated 12-07-2013 at 08:55 PM by Highlander
    3. NyxCC's Avatar
      Thanks guys!

      @ CL

      Yeah, it's pretty cool the kind of stuff that your subcon can come up with. And that dream was super vivid too. I have been having trouble waking up for my wbtbs, so this deild was very welcome. Talking of deilds nicely done from your side too!

      @ Highlander

      Thanks! Really not a deild pro, but I think it helps to really want to go back in the dream. With Jude Law waiting there, this was easier than at other times.

      Perhaps if I practiced this more often I would be able to give more useful tips, unfortunately most of the time I decide to visit the restroom, so that I don't get interrupted during hoped for lds. I guess if you remember to try it often enough, it should work out, especially given your ld experience.

      CL, any tips?
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      Updated 12-08-2013 at 03:31 AM by NyxCC
    4. Highlander's Avatar
      @ NyxCC.

      I do get the odd opportunity early morning as I can wake sometimes without moving, with my eyes closed, etc. My mind will be in an ideal state as well.
      The problem is 98% of the time I REALLY feel so uncomfortable, or I feel pain after sleeping in the same position for a while.
      Other times you feel like going to the loo. Most of the time it is a combination of the above factors.

      After a DILD the problem is the opposite due to alertness and the need to record the dream down!

      I guess I shouldn't complain as I can DILD fairly easily when I want to, although I am getting better/nearer DEILD as I'm starting to recognise the state even after moving slightly.

      Regarding the J.L dream: Congrats! I will have to use motovation myself.
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      Updated 12-08-2013 at 12:48 PM by Highlander
    5. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      Yeah, it's pretty cool the kind of stuff that your subcon can come up with. And that dream was super vivid too. I have been having trouble waking up for my wbtbs, so this deild was very welcome. Talking of deilds nicely done from your side too!
      Gosh, I hadn't even thought about it, but now I am almost 100% sure that reading this DJ entry and contemplating your no-WBTB DEILD is what made the thought occur to me for my last dream series. Thanks, Nyx! Like I was just telling Highlander a second ago, I'm pretty sure all "my" best ideas are just stuff I've read in other people's DJs.

      Thanks! Really not a deild pro, but I think it helps to really want to go back in the dream. With Jude Law waiting there, this was easier than at other times.

      Perhaps if I practiced this more often I would be able to give more useful tips, unfortunately most of the time I decide to visit the restroom, so that I don't get interrupted during hoped for lds. I guess if you remember to try it often enough, it should work out, especially given your ld experience.

      CL, any tips?
      Something I like to do for DEILD is to treat it very much like the void. I start imagining myself doing some repetitive motion or task such as running down a long flight of stairs, swinging a sword around, etc. I don't tend to use hand-rubbing, but I really should try that... I think I just never thought about it.

      This seems to be good for focusing the mind on the images it produces internally vs. the concerns/physicality of waking life.

      My biggest issue with DEILD is knowing in the moment when to try it vs. wake up. After a long LD, I like to get up and journal. But after a micro-lucid, DEILD is perfect since your mind is totally focused on lucid dreaming. It's also good for after an NLD.

      So that would be my ideal playbook. But in that wake-up fog state, I have a hard time making good choices consistently here.
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    6. NyxCC's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Highlander
      I guess I shouldn't complain as I can DILD fairly easily when I want to, although I am getting better/nearer DEILD as I'm starting to recognise the state even after moving slightly.

      Regarding the J.L dream: Congrats! I will have to use motovation myself.
      Thanks! That's really cool. It seems that you have found the DILD induction tech that works best for you then. And you are very aware of many of the transition moments, so you will certainly be able to capitalize on couple of dream exits to ld. Good luck!

      Quote Originally Posted by CanisLucidis
      Gosh, I hadn't even thought about it, but now I am almost 100% sure that reading this DJ entry and contemplating your no-WBTB DEILD is what made the thought occur to me for my last dream series. Thanks, Nyx! Like I was just telling Highlander a second ago, I'm pretty sure all "my" best ideas are just stuff I've read in other people's DJs.
      Cool! I'm happy your experience was swayed in the direction of deilding after our discussions. And such a nice execution too I love when ld ideas transfer seamlessly across different people's dreams (as long as they are not related to the "there is no ***", don't even mention it thing ). I believe that ld development is greatly accelerated by all these interactive readings and discussions. By the way, I had the chance to finally try your finger drawing technique. So cool! I'll post the stuff later if I am not too tired.

      Something I like to do for DEILD is to treat it very much like the void. I start imagining myself doing some repetitive motion or task such as running down a long flight of stairs, swinging a sword around, etc. I don't tend to use hand-rubbing, but I really should try that... I think I just never thought about it.
      That's a really great approach! Come to think of it, it is very similar to the void, especially if you had one of those quick deilds, where you only briefly touch on/land in your body and then are quickly back in dream space.

      My biggest issue with DEILD is knowing in the moment when to try it vs. wake up.
      I agree, since we don't use this as our primary tech, I guess we don't have the habit of being ready to deild and of course there are many excuses as you and Highlander pointed out like falling asleep, journalling or the restroom.
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    7. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      Awesome, Nyx, can't wait to hear more about your lucid finger-drawing experience!
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    8. Highlander's Avatar
      @ NyxCC:

      The DILD induction (technique) I use is no mystery - it is WBTB!

      @ NyxCC and Canis:

      Thanks you guys for your input BTW.
      Regarding DEILD:

      I have just lately been able to sort of recognise 'the zone' you need to be in, so that in order that I might be able to DEILD.
      You wake up (early morning) after a fair amount of sleep and you feel very relaxed and a bit drowsy.
      However I have noticed with your eyes closed then you get the 'flickering' sort of behind your eyelids. (Weak patterns/colours.) If its deeper (as in you are semi-drowsy) then it will be in the form of (cartoon-like) syncronised imagery. (REM?)
      Concentrate (focus) on it and you lose it.
      If you try not to 'think' then I have noticed it (the flickering behind your closed eyes) comes back, but if you try to 'visualise' a scene in your mind's eye then it disappears like as though you are fully waking up.

      Sometimes if I'm relaxed and not thinking too much where I get up out of bed then the 'flickering' will be in my peripheral vision of both eyes for a short space of time.

      Do any of you guys recognise this?

      @ CL:

      This leads me on to what you say about repetitive motion. (Inertia.)
      In the resting state (I mention above) I have tried something very similar instead of visualizing (imagery.)
      Basically I imagine the feeling of inertia, like my body is moving slightly back and forth (sideways.) I have had some success with this where it was nearly forming a dream/hallucination where I could 'feel' seperation effects, so I plan to maybe work on this maybe instead of image visualization.

      I agree what you say about the ideal time to maybe DEILD.

      Regarding that TV teleport idea; well I got it from you/your DJ entry. I must have subconsciously remembered it.
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      Updated 12-08-2013 at 11:49 PM by Highlander
    9. NyxCC's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Highlander
      The DILD induction (technique) I use is no mystery - it is WBTB!
      That's my fav tech too! Although I tend to end up with too much lucid dream inducing insomnia. Well, whatever works.

      Sometimes if I'm relaxed and not thinking too much where I get up out of bed then the 'flickering' will be in my peripheral vision of both eyes for a short space of time.

      Do any of you guys recognise this?
      I'm not quite sure if it's the same, but I have this thing which I call HI lights. With my eyes closed and also if I am relaxed or meditating, and my eyes are open, I would get these neon? lights swirling around. There are actually layers of them, but I rarely get to focus on the last layer.

      I know and have seen that in the last layer (there may be even more) there are indeed shapes that sometimes come into focus. For me this is not the same as visualization, it is something I can see with little effort, the initial layers at least, but it is hard to get the last layer shapes into focus. Sometimes they discontinue, then resume again. I think visualization may have a spillover effect regarding those lights as well, because lately I have been able to see slighly more lines and shapes in the last layer.

      I feel there's some potential in these things, yet not quite sure how to use them. With HI or dreamlets, you get to see the the scene ready, more or less complete, a bit less color but the shapes are already objects. Maybe this is some sort of pre-dreamlet state?

      Now about deild, it's great that you pay attention to such details. I can't tell if I see the hi lights when I deild or not, because most of the time it happens too fast for me to be aware, or doesn't happen at all. Yet, the HI lights are a good indicator of the state of mind/body, because I always get them when relaxed. If you get to see the last layer with the shapes, then I think your mind is also quite alert at the same time and well rested. This sounds like the state to be in to deild.
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      Updated 12-09-2013 at 12:55 AM by NyxCC
    10. Highlander's Avatar
      HI lights is a good name - I envisioned them (initially) as being in a girl's hair as a colouring effect which would make a brilliant picture.

      I haven't noticed such a 'layering' effect with my eyes open, apart from what I mentioned with the peripheral vision flicker.
      However you seem to ring a chord with me regarding the layer(s) with eyes closed and resting.
      It is like a 'crackle' weak colour effect on the back of the eyelids sometimes. Mind's eye visualization tends to kill it stone dead almost as though you are using the wrong part of the brain - i.e. logic and thinking, etc. By not thinking it continues if you are lucky and not alert.
      It is a fickle state, but like you say it is good for recognizing when you are relaxed, maybe to try DEILD, etc.
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      Updated 12-09-2013 at 06:44 PM by Highlander