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    Using illogical thoughts to induce sleep

    by , 11-26-2014 at 07:40 PM (739 Views)
    So, I was having some difficulty falling asleep and decided to try out the method*. At first, I was trying to make random semi-meaningful sentences and phrases "They came for the food; People sitting on road, etc.", then switched to more meaningless stuff and finally went on to random generation of a set of any three words, sometimes with a slight association between the words "hobby batman train", "milk bread wall".

    One of the early effects while trying to generate these words was that I started having mini memory flashbacks of real scenes from the past. This sometimes happens to me when reaching a clear but conscious state of mind and the memories are real ones rather than imaginary.

    As I continued with the exercise, a number of past dream memories, again real ones started mixing with the life flashbacks. These weren't very vivid and would last a second or so as I was fully concentrating on the word exercise.

    I was getting somewhat tired of continuously generating random words and also my awareness was beginning to slip away. At this point, I noticed the emergence of other random scene flashes, but those contained novel or rather different (not real dream or life memories). This is not new to me as I had on other occasions observed that the more towards unconsciousness I would drift, the more of these different scenes I get, while when my mind is fully aware and quiet it tends to get more real memory flashbacks. No idea what this is all about.

    Anyways, the interesting part was that as I was struggling to generate a new set of words, I would begin to get a random flashback scene before each word (now a mix of true past places and some unknown random places), and my mind would actually scan the scene for an object or action and use it in the word set! And this would go on for every word or sometimes two words would come from the same scene. It a was really cool realization when it happened the first time, then I let the process continue. I wasn't fully asleep at this point and took a step back towards wakefulness to review the process. Then continued a bit more with the word generation, eventually got tired and stopped and fell asleep.

    Looking forward to playing with this again!

    *Tnx to Xanous, Jeff and CL for the ideas and links.

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    Updated 11-26-2014 at 08:30 PM by 61764

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    1. fogelbise's Avatar
      Very interesting Nyx! You continue to impress me with the things you try and the successes you have!
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    2. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      Oh cool, you're playing with this! Excellent! It looks like this did a lot as far as creating dream/hypnanogia material, but it didn't just put you to sleep, is that right? Very interesting stuff!

      I was hoping it'd zonk you out, because getting back to sleep while in the right mindset is generally the hardest part for me.

      I'm looking forward to seeing you continue to play with this! (If you're interested.) In my attempts, I had a little trouble staying focused and didn't give it a full effort. But I've been dealing with very problematic lack of sleep lately, which just makes everything more difficult!
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    3. NyxCC's Avatar
      @ Fogelbise

      Thanks! I was inspired by one of our recent discussions with Xanous and CL.

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      @ CL

      I'm looking forward to seeing you continue to play with this! (If you're interested.) In my attempts, I had a little trouble staying focused and didn't give it a full effort. But I've been dealing with very problematic lack of sleep lately, which just makes everything more difficult!
      It's a really fascinating thing to experiment with. I agree with you one has to be in the right mindset though. Been a bit overactive myself and it is much harder to keep up the practice. Might try it during a micro wbtb to see if it makes a difference then! Wish us both some good quality sleep and relaxing thoughts.
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    4. Xanous's Avatar
      Very cool! I after seeing your link in my email a while back, I tried it again. I started with the random words for a few seconds and the next thing I knew it was 2AM. Did you try this at a WBTB or was it at the beginning of the night? Either way I really think this exercise was beneficial for you because you are observing your own mind and how it falls asleep. I can't seem to get as far as you did. Maybe when I have actually insomnia again I'll try to be slightly more observant.
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    5. NyxCC's Avatar
      I did two serious attempts at bed time mainly to help fall asleep and of course due curiousity. Last night a semi serious attempt, fell asleep rather quickly. Need to be more disciplined and try this more often and also do some trials during natural wakes. It wouldn't hurt. Be sure to post your results if you experiment again.
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    6. Xanous's Avatar
      Early this morning it caused me to pass straight out. I was actually trying to beat insomnia but only gave a half-hearted attempt at WILD. The randomness was more visual this time. It was interesting.