Keitorin's Dream Journal

**Keitorin** · 06-10-2008 11:44 AM

Welcome to my Dream Journal!

「ケイトリンの夢の世界」

...このページは私のゆめジャーナルです。

I discovered lucid dreaming June 10th, 2008. I was actually reading the Wikipedia entry on Sleep to find out what the average amount of sleep needed for my age was. From there, I followed the link to Dream because I suddenly realized I haven't remembered my dreams in years. I'd forgotten about dreaming entirely. Once I got to Lucid Dreaming, I didn't look back... especially since I remembered for the first time in a long time a couple of dreams I've had in the past.

I won't be using any special colors, though I may in the future. I'm still practicing my dream recall and can't wait to discover more about myself through dreaming!

Old LiveJournal DJ.

The transaction goes something like this:

Dream Journal (beside bed) > DV Dream Journal > Desktop DreamJournal

LDs: 3 Briefly Lucid, 4 Lucid

DILDs = 7

My Dream Signs:

Fandom characters or ideas
Old places or people (school, residences, family I don't see often)
Does sex count? Usually unconventional (threesomes, weird places/times, BDSM themes)

Past Dream Signs:

Animals (mostly horses, dogs, cats)
Doing immoral stuff (Stealing being the most often, I think)
Disasters (most often Tornadoes or something I can't remember)
Driving dreams, mostly where accidents occur

Note: Starting from August 30 '08 and onward, bold = dream signs.

**Keitorin** · 06-10-2008 12:03 PM

(Sunday, June 08, 2008)

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<h4>Lightspace</h4>

First time I've remembered a dream in years. I always thought of the sleep process as a necessary evil. That's what computers do to you, you become independent on them. *gives computer evil eye*

Before I fell asleep I thought, "I will recall my dreams". Earlier in the day I thought about it a lot and kept hoping I would, so I think that helped it along quite a bit.

Ah, the reason I woke up at 6 p.m. is because I'm in the middle of Chronotherapy. I was supposed to get up at 9 p.m. but couldn't go back to sleep, possibly because I was too excited from the dream.

Onward-

6:47 p.m.:

I woke feeling alert but also still sleepy in my chest area or something.

I remembered the dream until I rolled over... and then it was all gone, as if some distant memory I was trying to remember but couldn't quite grasp the details of. It may have had something to do with <A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yagami_Light">Light</A> from the manga Death Note (I've been writing that character a lot in fanfiction for the last few days) and space (probably inspired by the book I've been reading, <A href="http://www.amazon.com/Shanghaied-Moon-Michael-Daley/dp/0399246193">Shanghaied to the Moon</A> by Michael J. Daley).

Also, I remember thinking how easy it would be to remember because it was such a simple dream. I don't know if I thought that while dreaming or I was half awake.

I was sadly mistaken. T_T

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Now, here are some memories that were triggered yesterday about dreams I've had a long time ago. Except the last one wasn't that long ago, I don't think.

The dream I remember having the most and more than once is of flying. I thought it was real and perfectly possible and hated when I woke up. I was always confused about the reality (or non-reality of it), and I remember missing the dream a lot later on when I stopped having it.Another dream I remember is something to do with Mario and the Princess (possibly saving someone), and I probably remember because it was just too weird – I hadn’t played Mario in forever and even if I had, I wouldn’t want to think or dream about it.Ah, I also remember a sexual dream I had, it was very strong and I woke up feeling like I was still in the dream for a few seconds and was confused.

Realistic dreams are realistic.

Edited June 09, 2008: Photobucket is the most awesomest thing ever for editing pictures online when you're too lazy to open Photoshop.

**Keitorin** · 06-10-2008 12:18 PM

I had this issue where I kept getting excited, so I couldn't sleep. So I tried meditation and that helped to relax enough to sleep. I think I will try that more often, although I did have issues where I stopped breathing a couple times. It happened three times the night before. Might be due to my sleep schedule again, but I've already decided to stop it now and move on to sleeping at 11pm and getting up at 7am. <HR>
(Tuesday, June 10, 2008)

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Clutching Salt

3:33 a.m.

All I remember is "still clutching the salt". That's what I woke up thinking, and I didn't feel anything in particular. Tried to go back to sleep in hopes I'd dream again, but no dice.

Apparently my addiction to salt penetrates even my dreams. I wish I remembered more, but I opened my eyes and moved an inch and it all was gone except that one sentence that stuck out.

I thought I woke up because of the dream at first and was kind of proud myself (especially since I managed to roll over and write the dream down) but then I realized it's probably because I got enough sleep so my dream was actually interrupted.

Interpretation:

Yeah, it just occurred to me that my dream was telling me I'm going to die because of eating too much salt, metaphorically "still clutching at the salt". That's creepy.
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It's like I'm going to have coax my dream recall out like a baby who won't eat. I guess I can't be surprised - I haven't remembered my dreams in so long and I have a relatively bad memory in the first place.

Oh yeah, for the first dream and this one, I used autosuggestion, thinking "I will remember my dreams". I also used "I am dreaming" to try and help. Used meditation this time.

Still, I had something resembling a dream, twice! I find myself doubting that I had them at all because I recalled so little, but I'm going to keep at it, especially since I haven't even got my sleep on a good schedule yet. It should only get better.

**Keitorin** · 06-10-2008 10:55 PM

I laid down to take a nap at about 3:43 p.m. because I was getting really tired and doubted I'd be able to stay up to 11 p.m. without a little help. So I laid down and set my little alarm for an hour later because I knew it'd take me a while to get to sleep and was only planning on napping for about 30 minutes.

A few minutes after laying down I decided to try the 'trick your body' thing and tried waiting till I felt uncomfortable. Well that feeling didn't come, but I definitely started feeling heavy and eventually tingly in my hands. My index finger was randomly doing this twitch thing... But I think maybe I dozed, and that's why I saw and heard weird things. You're supposed to (and by this I mean it's possible for you too) get HI (Hypnagogic Imagery) in the wake-sleep transition.

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(Tuesday, June 10, 2008)

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Guns and Inuyasha

4:31 p.m.

Fragment 1: Inuyasha and Kagome were having what I think was a really nonsensical argument. I can kind of remember Kagome's expression because it was so funny, but am 95% sure Kagome was standing on the right and Inuyasha the left. Kagome might have been in a tree.

Interpretation: I have no idea why I dreamed of these two. I did watch Inuyasha last night, but I don't remember them arguing in that episode. Wish I could remember what they were arguing about here.

Fragment 2: This one I believe is inspire by something I stopped to watch real early this morning called The Investigators (I think). On it, a man was shot through his door where he ran inside to get away from his assailment. He ran from the door into the dining room and was shot again. His wife ran to call the police, and the man got in and shot the husband in the head. In my dream, someone shot someone else in the head. I remember the positions: the shooter was on the right and standing up, pointing the barrel down at the one being shot from a few feet away. The one who was shot was on his knees and was half turned the shooter with his hand on the ground for balance. Bang.

Interpretation: Most likely inspired by the show I mentioned. It disturbed me for a while after I watched it.

Other fragments: Forgotten trying to remember the others, which came further on. I think there was one or two of them.

It was definitely like a slideshow. It showed a scene and then moved on. It wasn't just scenes, it was thoughts as well, where there was audio but no visuals to go with it. I didn't feel a thing through it all, it was like I was just...I don't know. I was just there, and then I woke up feeling even more tired than before I laid down.

**Keitorin** · 06-11-2008 12:12 PM

Oh god. My butt muscles hurt so bad. T_T I slept really curled up at some point trying to get comfortable. I've been trying to get back to sleep since I woke up at about 4:47 but it didn't work too well. I woke up twice before that - because the autosuggestion I used ("I will wake up and recall my dreams") worked or because my body is still adjusting after the Chronotherapy. Whichever.

While trying to back to get back to sleep, I had a realization. I was holding really still, relaxing and counting down. I was at about 50 I think when I suddenly had a HI. It's hard to explain but I felt like I'd left my body a few inches, like projecting. It was cool, but I'd have rather fallen asleep. The realization came when I realized that's the same thing that happened to me a few years ago with a Sleep Meditation CD I have. At that time, I actually felt like I was even further from my body, but laying sideways on a table and strapped down. I was laying on my back for the meditation. I imagine the feeling of being strapped to a table came from the solid bed under me, but I don't know why I was crooked. Maybe because my body knew I should be on my side, how I normally sleep.

Now to try and read my scribbles from my DJ. I moved it even closer to my bed, and it was so easy to roll over and scribble in it - though each time I had a hard time going back to sleep.

In a few hours I think I'm going to need a nap. *yawn*

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Wednesday, June 11, 2008:

1:50 a.m.

Fragment 1: I created a notebook, but not for a DJ. It was possibly something at DV.

3:40 a.m.

Fragment 2: ...Haha, I can't read it. I think one of the things is "keywords" and the other starts with "not"...you know, that looks like "not alive". And then I wrote, "Woke feeling a little bit panicky - or was that in the dream?" (edited for readability *cough*)

Also, I wrote down HI and CD HI to remind me of the HI thing but I also wrote "AS". *blink* Hmm. Oh! Autosuggestion. You know, it's no use staying awake long enough to write stuff down if you can't read it in the morning. *headdesk*

Also, as much as I really hate to say it, it may be a bad time/idea to be doing this now, when I still have three weeks of getting used to going to bed and getting up early to go. I'll think about whether I need to give myself a little time over the next few days.

**Keitorin** · 06-12-2008 11:46 PM

Thursday, June 12, 2008:

Forgot to write down the time.

Fragment 1: Someone doing something unhealthy/a bad habit (?).

3:41 a.m.

Words I recalled: Nakama and Kazoeteita.

Meanings-

Nakama = friends or comrades

Kazoeteita = I think "was counting". Definitely the counting part.

I had to look up kazoeteita because I didn't remember what it meant. I never specifically learned it, I may have heard it in a song or something at some point though. Interesting meaning though, considering I was using counting to relax!

3:50 a.m.

(Black) guy lost kids to explosion, possibly telling me the story.

Notes:

Used autosuggestion ("I will recall my dreams", "I am sleeping", "I am relaxed").

I also used a technique told by Clairity where you go through the Alphabet and on each letter think up a word. Tried that three times, as well as counting.

Used meditation at 4am, which, while didn't work, did something really interesting. At least I think it was the meditation that did it. I was laying on my back, after about 40 minutes the left side of my head (slightly above and left of ear) started hurting. It's hard to explain, but it wasn't like a normal headache. It was more external feeling, I guess you could say. After a bit, I couldn't take it anymore and lifted my head to feel it. A few seconds after and the spot flooded with numb feeling. It was awful, and luckily it faded soon.

Several times I found myself being interrupted because I stopped breathing and was startled out of my relaxation. That was annoying. So I'm going to look up deep breathing and learn more about it to make sure I'm doing the best thing.

Last note: It seems the first time I wake up and write down what I remember is the most unreadable text in my DJ.

**Keitorin** · 06-13-2008 12:22 PM

So I didn't wake up as many times this morning...but I also only had one dream, probably because I took Melatonin. I woke up at four and haven't been able to sleep since. I looked it up and found I may be going to sleep too early; also, I'm not sure why I didn't think about this until I read it, but my circadian rhythm has got to be messed up after my weird sleep change thing. I just need to give it time, I think. And try going to bed a little later.

Now I must do my best to stay awake all day, because I don't have the best record with short naps.

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11:46 p.m.

Animal Preservation

Had an argument with mom about animal preservation. She kept interrupting me (with her opinion) while I was trying to say my opinion. As if I didn't hear her the first time!

Weirdest dream ever/yet.

**Valwen** · 06-13-2008 06:46 PM

Nice progress so far. I've never gotten the hang of waking up after my dreams to write them down, but it seems you got it on your first try. I'll definitely start trying to do that again. Do you think you might have sleep apnia? I've noticed you have trouble with forgetting to/stopping breathing.

**Keitorin** · 06-13-2008 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Valwen

Nice progress so far.

Thanks! It's slow going, but then again I haven't recalled my dreams in years until now.

I've never gotten the hang of waking up after my dreams to write them down, but it seems you got it on your first try.

It wasn't on purpose, trust me. My sleeping schedule has been really crazy the last month (actually, it has been for years and now I'm trying to fix it), and so I think it's a product of that. I'm not sure what'll happen to the awakenings when I do get it fixed.

Do you think you might have sleep apnia? I've noticed you have trouble with forgetting to/stopping breathing.

I kind of wondered, but its only happened the last couple of nights. I think it's due to my sleeping schedule as well and maybe from trying out meditation and stuff. Before, I'd just collapse into bed in exhaustion and now I actually have to work at getting to sleep. I'll keep an eye on it and see if it gets any better.

It was nice of you to comment!

**Keitorin** · 06-13-2008 11:00 PM

Nap dream.

Friday, June 13, 2008:

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Jasmine

4:00 p.m.

Rachel and Matt had just arrived from Tennessee. Rachel was by the cat's food bowls when she called into mom's room for Riley, but she called her "Jasmine", the name Rachel originally had given her when she first got her. Matt then called out, "Here, Riley!".

Then my phone vibrated and woke me up. I recalled this dream ten minutes after I got up when I threw Riley one of her toys.

Note: Rachel is my sister and Matt is her boyfriend. I live in Indiana, them in Tennessee.

**Keitorin** · 06-14-2008 02:08 PM

No recalled dreams, though at one point I swear I had three in my head. Could be wishful thinking.

Anyway, after some researching, I've decided to start taking Melatonin again every night until I see progress. Hopefully there will be some, because if I keep waking up at 4am it may mean I'm depressed (I wouldn't be surprised). I am 95% sure though that it's due to my sleep schedule change and should get better within the next couple of weeks.

Unfortunately, this may effect my dreaming. I really want me to just keep going with it, but I know my health is more important; I need to tend to it now, before it gets worse. I'm going to be taking Vitamins again since we finally got some money to get some. My eczema is acting up as well as my allergies. I have this nasal drainage thing going on when I lay down that makes it hard to breath properly.

But I can't take my Zyrtec now because it makes me so sleepy when I need to avoid napping. *sigh*

Hopefully things will change for the better soon!

Edit:

Just found this:

<BLOCKQUOTE>Melatonin is a neurotransmitter/hormone that is only active during sleep. It is being metabolized when you fall asleep from Serotonin, a neurotransmitter that is being metabolized from the amino acid Tryptophan. Melatonin increases non-REM sleep and makes it easier for you to fall asleep. But it has also an interesting rebound effect that gives more frequent and vivid dreams. The vividness might even give you a lucid dream.</BLOCKQUOTE>

Interesting!

**Keitorin** · 06-15-2008 01:13 AM

Power-nap (that actually stayed a power-nap) dream.

Note: I took the nap on mom's bed, her side.
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Saturday, June 14, 2008:

5:51 p.m.

Ordering Snacks

Dad was sitting on his side's corner of his and mom's bed. I was either propped up on the pillows or lying down on his side of the bed. Dad was flipping through a phone book type book and we were discussing what to order. The first thing might have been movies, then we moved on to snacks and popcorn was one of the options.

Me and my dad are not very close and don't sit near each other often, much less watch movies and such together, so this was a weird dream. I also found it interesting that I had the dream in the same room I fell asleep in. I think that's a very natural occurence, but still. The first time I sleep in mom's bed in forever - you'd think I'd find it strange and become lucid or something.

**Keitorin** · 06-17-2008 01:20 PM

Now I've been waking at 2 a.m. unable to go back to sleep, but by some miracle (I was reaaally tired when I laid down) I managed to fall back asleep a few hours later this morning.

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Tuesday, June 17, 2008:

3 a.m.

Fragment 1: One I wish I could remember because it might have fit in the <A href="http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=19509">DCs Say the Darndest Things</A> thread at DV. I soo tried to remember but it was pretty nonsensical it's hard enough remembering normal details for me in the first place.

Fragment 2: Might have been said by Stewart's dad from <A href="http://www.amazon.com/Shanghaied-Moon-Michael-Daley/dp/0399246193/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213705077&sr= 8-1">Shanghaied to the Moon</A> by Michael Daley. I re-read the book yesterday. I wish I remembered this one. >_<

Note: I'm 99% sure the only reason I had/recall these is because I've been poring over the <A href="http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=19509">DCs Say the Darndest Things</A> thread the last few days.

I had a dream either yesterday or the before about me standing on a beach or ocean, and there was possibly a DC there with me. I was getting teary and felt this overwhelming joy and maybe sadness while looking out over the water, and I woke feeling that. I had teary eyes and after the feelings faded I wondered what the heck was wrong with me until I remembered. *cough*

**Keitorin** · 06-17-2008 09:11 PM

Napped on mom's bed, set stove timer for 45:, slept extra 30 min.

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Tuesday, June 17, 2008:

inappropriate
adjective
1. not suitable for a particular occasion etc; "noise seems inappropriate at a time of sadness"; "inappropriate shoes for a walk on the beach"; "put inappropriate pressure on them" [ant: appropriate]

2. not in keeping with what is correct or proper; "completely inappropriate behavior"

- dictionary.com

3:10 p.m.

Had an inappropriate dream after falling asleep on mom's bed. Involved inappropriate objects. *cough* At the end of the dream (I don't remember many specifics, and what I do I'm too embarrassed to admit to!

) I tidied up and then people came home. In real life, I woke up and mom came home.

Strangely enough (or, appropriately enough), I think there was also a piece of paper involved (I don't remember what it was for). I kind of wish I remembered more so I knew that there was some method in the madness.

I do think it's all this threads' fault: "<A href="http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=49240">How to avoid sexual distractions</A>". I don't have that topic's problem, but I do think this dream was prompted by that thread as I read it before laying down. XD

**Keitorin** · 06-18-2008 01:22 PM

Woke up at 1 a.m., immediately remembered to take Melatonin...conked back out, woke at 4 a.m. I think, slept again and woke with alarm at 7 a.m.. Feel sleepy keep yawning - but my mind is alert. Feel happy and relieved, can take small nap later.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008:

7 a.m.

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Astrocity

I'm Tim from Home Improvement, and I'm driving a motorcycle after Allen, also on a motorcycle. He's just driven over a trailer (like the one from Ben 10, but wider and taller), flew over it and onto another building. I'm hesitant to follow because I've never done it before, but in the end I fly on after him.

I try to do a hop at the last second to get over and onto the other (metal) building (type thing) but I miss. I fall into the water with the bike. I try to keep me and the bike up, clinging onto the side of the building. (I can't remember if Allen halls me up, but) suddenly I'm up on the trailer or the building and he's questioning me about what I thought I was doing, and about something I told him earlier.

The only thing I remember is how he wanted to do 'astrocity' (exact word) and he thought I had because of something I said earlier, so he was angry that I'd held a tidbit out there on how to do it and hadn't followed up. I asked him if he really believed in 'astrocity'. I don't remember what it was that I'd actually told him about before that got him wondering, something supernatural or other I'm pretty sure.

Notes: I can't swim in real life, can't drive either. I watched Home Improvement with my mom for about ten minutes at some point last night. I never watched the show before. In real life I'd been reading about AP (astral projection). I think by 'astrocity', we probably meant astral... or something...

School Days Are Gone

I think I'm younger, possibly the age I was when still in public school. I think I flew or floated while outside the school, before I saw the dead animal. I remember holding my dress down as I landed on the grass beside the sidewalk.

There was a dead animal outside (to the right of the steps and over a bit), and I considered calling the ASPA or something, but didn't. I headed to the door, and I saw a woman. I thought she was coming out, so I opened the door for her, but she was actually going into a door beside the front doors. I was disappointed.

As I walked through the hall, I felt very disoriented and remember thinking it'd been a while since I'd been there. It felt like I was there for a reason and that I had a place I belonged normally.

There was a little girl in the bathroom (see notes). She was washing her hands, and we were talking. I might have washed my hands before or after her, or we did it together.

That's all I remember about that one, but it triggered old memories, both dream and real. In a dream one, I remember walking the halls of an empty school, and another possibly recurring one of being out on the playground. Real life memory: I can't remember for the life of me if this was in the morning or after school, but we had to sit in the halls until it was time to do whatever it was we did (go to classrooms? line up?).

Note: I stopped public school after Rickman in grade 6 I believe. Also, I have no idea which school was in my dream because they're kind of a jumble in my head. I know the part with the dead animal was at the school I was at last, same as the inside, but the bathroom... hmm. Oh man, my memory is so messed up. It was probably Rickman Elementary School. *sniff* Looking through the official website is making me cry. I see a couple of my old teachers are still there...

Reminder to self: Find that photo of you in a dress (that you might have been wearing in dream), or the Outside Day one where you can see the steps and upload it for this dream.

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I can't believe I remembered so much. These are the most vivid dreams I've had since I started dream recall, and this is the happiest I've been in awhile. Two dreams! And I actually slept! *weep*

**Keitorin** · 06-19-2008 01:19 PM

I did it again! Yesterday I woke up at 1 a.m., and I did again this morning. I immediately took the Melatonin and got back to sleep. I may not even have needed it I was so tired, but I want to be sure before I stop taking them. I actually also managed to stay up long enough to write down my dream, and I have no idea what I wrote. That's an exciting part of all this - getting to wake up and read what dream I had. XP
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Thursday, June 19, 2008:

1:25 a.m.

Animal Parts

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This guy was telling his dream. He was describing false awakenings where he kept waking up, and when he'd go back to sleep, he'd dream he'd find an animal body part - not like a real one (I don't think), maybe bones? I think there was a human skull as well.

Note: I've never had a false awakening that I remember and have only read about them. I think I read a thread yesterday about the most frustrating dreams people had, and some of them answered with some false awakening experiences.

Interpratation (a la <A href="http://www.dreammoods.com/">Dream Moods</A>):

Bones: To see bones in your dream, suggests the discovery of your personal, family, or cultural secrets. It is also symbolic of your underlying strengths that you have not yet recognized. To dream of broken bones, signifies that you have discovered or realized that there is a weakness in your plans or in your thinking.  Your dream may call for you immediate attention to a particular situation or relationship.

o_O I don't have family or cultural secrets, though mom did tell me something really awful that happened in her past last night. So it could be personal secrets. The underlying strengths thing is interesting. I know there's weakness in my thinking, and I actually woke up this morning thinking that something needed to be done immediately about our money situation - "what can I do?" even though I know I'm so bad with people I'd probably just ruin any attempts at helping.

Anyway, but why would some guy be picking up the bones, I wonder. And who was he telling his dream to, and why? More info plz, subconscious.

Skull:To see a skull in your dream, symbolizes danger and death. Alternatively, it denotes the secrets of the mind.

Secrets of the mind, huh? That's pretty much what I'm doing here. Wait, danger?!

Now I wish I could remember the body parts. *cough* And why all but one were animal bones. I don't remember how I knew they were animal bones, but I wrote it down, so.

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Okay, when I read what I'd written in my RL DJ I was seriously like "WTF?". This is an odd experience - reading something I've written and not remembering it. I wish I'd written down more or remembered more.

**Valwen** · 06-20-2008 05:45 AM

Awesome! Full dreams! Good job so far; it's just the start! 8)

**Keitorin** · 06-20-2008 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Valwen

Awesome! Full dreams! Good job so far; it's just the start! 8)

Thanks, and I hope so!

**Keitorin** · 06-21-2008 09:25 PM

I wasn't going to type this up first, but I don't want to go getting lazy so I decided to do it after all.

Last night,  I didn't wake up at 1, 2 or 4! I didn't need to take a Melatonin. I did wake up at 6, but was able to go back to sleep for the remaining hour.

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Saturday, June 21, 2008

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So the only thing I remember is Conrad telling me in Google Talk that he's had many marriages (in the MMORPG Ragnarok Online).

Notes: Conrad is my best friend, we met about six years ago online in RO. As for the RO marriages, we've married twice (or more times) for fun but I doubt he's ever married anyone else.

I do remember that there was more to this conversation, but it was too much to recall.

**englishrose** · 06-21-2008 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Keitorin

Welcome to my Dream Journal!

I've only discovered LD recently. I was actually reading the Wikipedia entry on Sleep to find out what the average amount of sleep needed for my age was. From there, I followed the link to Dream because I suddenly realized I haven't remembered my dreams in years. I'd forgotten about dreaming entirely. Once I got to Lucid Dreaming, I didn't look back... especially since I remembered for the first time in a long time a couple of dreams I've had in the past.

This is what got me into LD (well, i've only just started the process!) - basically that I realised I haven't remembered a dream in a very long time! Which sadden me a little, so i'm really excited. i remembered my first dream today!

keep up the good work!

**Keitorin** · 06-22-2008 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by englishrose

This is what got me into LD (well, i've only just started the process!) - basically that I realised I haven't remembered a dream in a very long time! Which sadden me a little, so i'm really excited. i remembered my first dream today!

keep up the good work!

Same here! May we both have lots of success.

**Keitorin** · 06-22-2008 01:20 PM

So I woke up, and my mind was blank. I tried asking, "what did I dream?" and also just acting like I was going back to sleep (almost really did). It wasn't working. The minute I stopped trying to remember, it just popped into my head. ^_^;;

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Sunday, June 22, 2008

7.35 a.m.

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Within Our World

There were two twins in it. For some reason, we were in this bathroom. It had a basement door (left), a very large (black) cupboard (right wall), a bathtub (right wall, below cupboard), a front door (right of bathtub, front wall).

I remember seeing a bottle of some type of product to the left beside some type of storage containers maybe (and some towels?), and it said "Siblings" under the product name. The bottle was aqua color and fairly large. I remember wondering what product needed to be used by siblings.

We might have used the bathtub, I remember something about it.

So, we were tricking the people in the house (I don't know who). One of the twins was hiding in the large cupboard.

At one point, a guy knocked at the basement door I believe, telling us to hurry or something. Or maybe that's where the other twin came from? Towards the end, he knocked again, but on the front door, and we (me and the one twin) opened it and saw a Butler type guy. He was like a younger Alfred from Batman.

As me and the twin walked out, the twin in the cupboard called out to us. The twin I'm with with says to me something like, "I didn't hear anything. I've gotten used to it." I understood what he meant - he meant that he's been around his twin so much, he's gotten used to 'ignoring' him, like how siblings will do. The first part was said like, "I didn't hear anything, lalalala". Like we were now playing a trick on the twin.

Apparently, the first prank wasn't so important anymore, as we just left the twin.

I remember at the some point in the dream I was looking down at my clothes, and I was wearing Khakis. I was worrying something about them but for the life of me I can't remember what. Might have been wearing a white shirt. I remember thinking of what someone else was wearing... Hmm. *scratches head*

Notes: The twins remind me of Tsubaki and Tsumugi (twins) from the yaoi manga <A href="http://www.commonastherain.com/manga/yononaka/index.html">Yononaka wa Bokura ni Amai</A> (Spoiled Within Our World). Those two crack me up. XP

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I wonder what I can do when I get these annoying tidbits that rise briefly to the surface but I can't quiet grasp hold of...

**Keitorin** · 06-24-2008 03:09 AM

This dream left me feeling strange (I kind of distanced myself from it up until now) after I woke up. I should have been feeling very happy to have LD'ed or something. I probably scarred myself for getting a robot instead of a man. Just read. XP

I didn't plan on LDing any time soon, so this dream came as a shock when I woke up. I'm very happy I did now, because it gave me some confidence. I actually kinda want to have the same dream again so I can understand what happened better.

Statistics:

I started dream recall practice with my DJ June 10th. It's June 23rd right now.

I've recalled 19 dreams/fragments in 13 days.

Not bad, considering I can barely count on one hand dreams I remember from years ago, when I was a wee babe. XP

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Monday, June 23, 2008

7 a.m.

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Danger, Will Robinson!

I don't remember what I was doing before I became lucid. This sounds strange, but I may have been in a completely dark room sleeping in a large bed (even bigger than my mom's) with other people. I must have woken up and left the room, entering the kitchen. That's where I became lucid. I don't know if something triggered it, but I suddenly thought/asked, "Am I dreaming?" I checked the clock several times, it was kind of fascinating how the time would change. I remember it showed 11, 12, 5...

The clock RC was the only one I could remember, though I get this feeling I tried the finger-through-hand one first and it passed. Oh! I just remembered something! The moment I asked myself if I was dreaming, I knew I had to be because I read that if you have to ask, then there's good chance that you are.

I must have explored the area a bit, though it was very dark. At some point after, I used the spinning technique, though I'm not sure if I actually thought I was losing lucidity or I just remembered reading about it and wanted to try it. Either way, it felt great. I haven't spun around in real life in a long time! I also was worried I'd get too excited, so I tried something I've been doing in real life before bed - diaphragm breathing. It's weird, because I distinctly remembering thinking it weird how calm I was in the dream despite being lucid for the first time.

I think this next part was inspired by what I was thinking about before I fell asleep - sex. I tried not to, but I fell asleep before I could think of something else for a while!

So what I tried to was summon a guy. I apparently wanted to do it with him. I wasn't concerned about anyone in the household once I realized I was dreaming.

Instead of a man, I got a...a robot! It was white, and I remember three round buttons on it. For some reason, it wanted to self-destruct, and alarms kept going off. I also remember something about "protecting me", don't know where that comes from. It was trying to kill me, not protect me! I had to stop it, so I kept pressing the buttons to try and disarm it. I must have lost some lucidity, because I forgot that I could probably have controlled the robot...

That's when my alarm went off. For a split second I heard it in the dream before waking up.

**lucid4sho** · 06-24-2008 06:37 AM

Congrats on the LD. The DJ is paying off. http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=59495
Check out this thread. You can download a dream portal created by Jozen-Bo that is for drawing dreams on a spiral calendar so you can track patterns and monitor your dream progress accumulatively. Its been an extremely useful addition to my tape recorded DJ and it has had some really profound effects for me. Good luck.

Here is one of Jozen-Bo's one year completed dream portals:

**Keitorin** · 06-24-2008 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

Congrats on the LD. The DJ is paying off. http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=59495
Check out this thread. You can download a dream portal created by Jozen-Bo that is for drawing dreams on a spiral calendar so you can track patterns and monitor your dream progress accumulatively. Its been an extremely useful addition to my tape recorded DJ and it has had some really profound effects for me. Good luck.

Hey, thanks!

I've seen that thread before but didn't read it all. Now I am. It does look very interesting, although I can't draw very well and can't print out an enlarged copy of the chart.

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The act brings the dreaming focus to my mind’s attention, and makes dreaming almost 100% likely to occur.

That part definitely interests me. I do think I tend to forget how successful I'm being in so short amount of time, so seeing all my symbols on the chart would give me a nice confidence boost, I think!

How has it been working for you lately?