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      I haven't been lucid since last post which was a long time ago because of I haven't put much effort into it, I've gone to sleep late and woken up early to babysit my little brother.
      However last night I had 4 LD's whereof 3 were dream exit induced(I woke up after a while in the dream and then I just went in again in first another dream scene but the second deild it was the same dream scene I went back into).

      After those 3 I was pretty happy even though the control was low, I was lacking creativity, hence the ability to change environment and barely fly, I was more like jumping very high
      Anyway I woke up and wrote all 3 lds down which all 3 was pretty amazing.

      Then I went back to sleep and had another LD.

      A thing I've noticed is that once I get the idea of that I'm in a dream I don't even need to RC. It becomes so obvious, that was how I felt tonight atleast, maybe because the situations I found myself in was too rare to be reality

      Another thing is that I forgot to use my senses a lot to stabilize. I did however rub my hands and look for details on my hands but it feels like my environment is dissapearing as I'm focusing on my hands. So I won't do that anymore.
      I don't think I've ever successfully made an improvement in the LD quality by stabilizing, not significantly atleast.. I want more vividness and control :/

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      Congrats on your DEILDs!

      1. Try writing down your plan for newt LD and keep thinking about it often, even try acting it out. I found that this ways I can remember better what I wanted to do in LD.

      2. I have also noticed, that I don't RC as often anymore, especially in DEILD or WILD. I still do in DILDs.

      3. If focusing on hands doesn't work for you, switch to something else. I have read that if you keep moving, that will help stabilize. Like walk or stomp (for added sensations) through your dreamscape, while smelling the air, touching the walls, talking or singing out loud, and in general, getting engaged with the dream as much and as many senses as possible.

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      Thank you!

      Alright it was quite some time ago that I posted and I've had only 2 dilds that I didn't find worth mentioning.

      However last night I went to sleep pretty late and woke up and had to pee about 2 hours before wakingtime. I went back to bed and I just went back to sleep and then I woke up by my Dreamz app that played a short audio cue.
      I did succeed to not move when waking up to it and I tried to WILD, but I was too tired and I lost conciousness. I then woke up in a FA, I'm not sure if it was imidiately after that i lost conciousness or that it was in a later dream but I woke up in FA and did a reality check.
      It worked and i started to stabilize, it felt pretty good and I started to walk around my house and down the stairs and out. The dream felt like it lasted about 2-3 minutes and then it ended, I didnt really have time to do anything.

      I woke up again and I didnt move which caused me to deild back into my dreambody in my bed again, I woke up again(in the dream) and did about the same route as last time but this time some things were different, I started to look out the window and notice the sun was about to come up and I started to "Sungaze".
      I woke up again(in real life) and I deilded back into the "phase" about 4 more times, totalling it up to 6 short lds and in all of them I just worked on stabilizing but I didnt manage to get any of the LDs long.. which was somewhat dissapointing.

      In my last dream I got so desperate for more time in the LD that as I was being chased by some random DC I just sat down to meditate and when he was about to attack me he couldnt touch me as I was sitting down and meditating with my eyes open.

      But I did have some fun too in the LDs. I remember now that the dc chased me because I destroyed a hotel with telepathy/hand gesture.

      My recall is not the best because I had so many short lds.

      The problem: I cant make the dreams longer. I did say to myself "this will be a long LD" but I think that I need to work on my subconcious intent on having a long dream. Which is hard.

      Edit: Something more I can recall now is that my vision got very blurry in one eye and I remember that by calming myself and going slower forward, i got the vision back. Also good progress, that I can maintain calm in tricky situations.
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      Man, that sound's awesome. I love DEILDs - my favorite stuff.

      I think you right about making your subconsciousness believe to have longer dreams. That may be my problem as well. But all it takes is a few longer ones to get your confidence up. Even then, we just have no idea why some are short and some longer.

      So how many have you had so far? Sorry, you not listing the number in your profile, so it's hard for me to keep track. Happy dreams

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      Yea I have it in my signature if you press the spoiler, if you mean the LD counts?

      Anyway this morning I had the same experience but this time I did a full WILD(for my second time 2/2 successful, I think you read my other one that i posted in the lucid experiences section)

      So I woke up around 2 hours before wakeup-time and I decided to wild because I felt in perfect shape for it(relaxed and alert). I entered sp and this uncomfortable "i cant breathe" part after about 5-10 minutes.
      Then I just relaxed more and more and waited, and the sounds began to came, it was a song(again) and it was a partysong that I recognized but can't recall right now. Then some images came and I guess I lost conciousness for a breaf moment(or it just felt like that) because next thing
      I'm standing up outside. So I noseplugged and then I did some proper stabilisation, and did some really fun stuff, it was most fun because it was extremely vivid, and it was really beautiful. I flew up high and I was sort of in space because there were stars all around me. Then I flew down and looked for fun things.
      I tried "passive dream control" and expected people I knew to appear behind the corners but they didn't

      So I woke up and just re-entered about 5 times. I lucid dreamt for total of 1 - 2 hours I believe, with 5 wake-ups so these lds wasnt short and it was really amazing. I did crazy stuff. fought with indians that had bears as pets, I almost ate a tiger, i bit flesh of it
      The only bad thing is that I can't really recall it all. But I sure had fun.

      Although I remember having lack of control, I would rather look for stuff than create them myself and I tried using superpowers but it didnt work, flying was the only thing I could manage..
      I think it's all about the subconcious believing to use passive and active control.. And its not easy. Also managing subconcious intent would probably benefit people in the real life a lot aswell I can imagine.
      Like instead of saying to yourself "I'm good at this" and still subconciously believe you suck, that doens't do anything for you. But if you manage to actually convince your subconcious that your good at something, you'd get the confidence to be good at it.
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      That sounds like really great experience. Last time when I had DILD and 5 DEILDS, during the transitions, I kinda replayed all previous LDs and counted them. I did this spontaneously, I believe, but it helped me remember all of them. Maybe you can tell yourself to go through them during transition from one to another to help you remember.

      And you maybe right about stuff not showing up if you have doubts about it. Try to tell yourself that it will work because lots of people say that on DV. That's what I told myself and it worked pulling out money from my pocket, but didn't work for throwing fireballs. I guess I didn't really imagine the fireballs so they didn't happen the way I though they should. I sure takes practice.

      Oh, I see your LD count now. Thanks. Nice numbers

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      So, this morning I had sofar my longest LD without disruption of wakeups!

      Before I went to sleep I meditated as usually now and I did a little longer meditation than usual. I woke up and managed to not move too much, except for turning off the sound of my phone and then went into a comfortable position.
      I felt really drowsy perhaps too drowsy to WILD but I tried anyway and I managed to maintain awareness until all of a sudden I'm disrupted by my brother that for some reason also slept in my room(Already dreaming, because I sleep alone in my room. was not aware of it though)
      So I got annoyed that he disrupted me in middle of my vibrations. I then got into a new position(still in the dream) and got the vibrations on again and some noise, and then my mom walks into the room(still in the dream) and I was like fuck this.

      So I got up(in the dream non-lucid yet a.k.a false awakening) and I realised there are two moms and two dads because apparently they can teleport or something so I'm like um.. Yea this is a dream, I noseplugged and started to fly down the stairs and to the front door.

      Then I was lucid for a veeeeeeeeeery long time with half disruptions, I didnt really wake up, but the dream got very unstable at some points but then I just refocused on the lucidity and stabilization and simply got back into a good vividness without waking up. I kept doing this everytime I felt the dream was gonna fade and it became a very long dream, what felt like about 30-60 minutes. I did everything I could possibly do with the environment that was set for me. Flew, met people, went some places.
      Then when I had done everything I wanted to do around there I couldn't come up with anything to do, so I finally allowed myself to wakeup. Also active control didnt really work and I cant recall doing any good passive control things either. I tried Neo flying but it didnt work, it only worked when I swam in the air haha but that was fine.

      It was pretty cool though! I should come up with some things to do in my lucids now and try to think of them before I fall asleep as you suggested to me but I didn't even expect to become lucid last night so yea, I'll do it tonight instead.

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