Originally Posted by ber5897
I did the WBTB like you explained. I got up, did a reality check, went to the restroom, and then went back and sat on the edge of my bed. I then did my mantra while counting my fingers. After about two minutes, I crawled back in bed, and tried to go back to sleep, while repeating my mantra in my head. I at least tried to have my mantra be the last think that I was thinking of when I fell asleep.
That's perfect how you did that.
Originally Posted by ber5897
I now realize that I didn't put this in the introduction post of this workbook, but I at one point, I actually had a DEILD/WILD/OBE. I am not really sure what it was. Anyways, when that happened, I felt a tingly sensation throughout my whole body. I had that same thingy sensation when I had my first LD, the DILD. I was definitely conscious when this happened, and when my whole body felt tingly, I "rolled" out of my body, and into my dream body. I didn't have any control though. I was completely immobilized, even in my dream body.
If you mean that you were conscious before you rolled out, then it was either a WILD or OBE. If you just woke up from a dream (best from LD), then it could have been a DEILD. When you roll out, you are already in your dream/astral body. The tingling sensation (did it feel like vibrations? Like purring cat or stronger?) Next time if you can't move, yell "I have the power", "Now I'm walking to the door", or just mentally try and direct your motion, like "to the door".
Originally Posted by ber5897
So what happened last night.. It did not happen because I was in a dream and I realized I was dreaming. I don't think I was even in a dream before this happened, at least I don't think I was. So I suddenly felt that tingly sensation throughout my body. When I felt this, I also realized that I was laying face down in my bed. What I did, is I just rolled out of my body again. I tried rubbing my hands together to try to stabilize the dream. Once I felt that it was stabilized, I figured I would try to fly, although I was still in my room. So I tried jumping, and I jumped quite high, maybe 15 or 20 feet into the air. I did this a few times, but that is all I could accomplish. I also tried jumping even higher, and going through my ceiling, but it didn't work. After a little bit of doing this, I heard someone coming up the stairs, and I just kind of knew that they were going to come to my room. So for some reason, I woke myself up from the lucid dream (I have no idea why I would ever do that, but I did). When I woke up, it turned into another dream, that started with my brother knocking at my door, just like I predicted, because I heard him coming.
Hrm, so your brother was not at your door for real, only in first event and then in a dream afterwards, right? If so, them I'm leaning towards your first event being a WILD and second regular dream. It totally possible, to one dream continue into another one, especially that close to each other.
Now, if your brother actually was there IWL, than you had an OBE for sure. But, it could have been OBE, even if you didn't see real world. You know, rolling out, getting up, is most typical of OBEs. I had an OBE, in which I rolled out, and I also had what I believed to be WILDs, in which I rolled out/sit up and walked away.
Both, OBE and WILDs frequently start in your bedroom.
Best way to tell is to look at your bed. In OBE, many times you see yourself sleeping. But if you didn't exit into the astral plane that's closest to our physical plane, then it's possible not to see the sleeping body.
Another way to tell is to look at your hands. In LD, you normally have a body that looks like your WL body. In OBE, even if you for a little while see your hands, they will start to "melt away", or they look like made of energy.
In LD, you should be able to change things - color of the wall, or something similar. But in OBE, if you are in the astral plane closest to physical, I don't think you can change anything, because the stuff is real. Look at the details next time. Look at something, that you don't know and then wake up and check it out. Like if neighbours car is in the driveway, or something like that.
Originally Posted by ber5897
So I am kind of thinking that it wasn't an actual LD, because when I heard that person coming up the steps in the LD, the person was still there when I "woke up" into the normal dream. Also, it didn't feel anything like my first LD, and it wasn't as vivid. Something just didn't feel right.
You don't always have same clarity, vividness, awareness in every LD.
Originally Posted by ber5897
Well this is kind of confusing, so I hope you understand what happened. Do you think it was a LD? I am kind of doubting it..
It definitelly was something. Either WILD or OBE. Just couple of days ago, I started reading an OBE book and at night I woke up to my body floating above my bed. I mentally gave command to move, I wanted to stand up and explore my room. But by the time I stopped I was half way out the window, so I just continued on. Have no idea, if it was a DILD about me having OBE, or a OBE. I was lucid, but I'll be darned if I know what it was.
Originally Posted by ber5897
Also, I know people will say, "If you know you are dreaming, it is a lucid dream" or "If you can control the dream, it is a lucid dream". Well I can't answer either of these questions. I have no idea.
Yes, only in WILD, you don't get that "holly smokes, I'm dreaming" moment, because you enter it while consious, so there is no surprise from realization. And that is not true, you can have a LD without control. And in OBE, you can control your movement, but not so much the environment, since that is real.
So, good job, keep it up
How do you feel about OBEs? There is a thread in General lucid with links to download books from William Buhlman and Robert Monroe. Excellent info.
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